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"Carl's Lounge" (Off-Topic Discussion, Traditional Knife "Tales & Vignettes")

Discussion in 'Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades' started by jackknife, Jul 5, 2010.

  1. JaxBaron

    JaxBaron Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 4, 2016
  2. Prester John

    Prester John Gold Member Basic Member Gold Member

    May 20, 2018
    Do you make "fiery" three syllables?
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  3. Misplaced Hillbilly

    Misplaced Hillbilly Gold Member Gold Member

    May 16, 2018
    When Florence passed here I had nearly 0 cell service for several hours. Even after the storm was passed that Sunday most all day I had no service,Sometimes I'd receive a text but was unable to respond for awhile. I think due to power loss at the tower, and flooding was hindering them refueling the generator. They'll have trucks with large tandem axle generator trailers ready as soon as its possible to power up cell towers. I'm sure their ok, just keep trying.
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  4. veitsi_poika

    veitsi_poika Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Nov 25, 2016
    I was :) But not sure now, might have to fix it LoL Good catch ;)
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  5. Misplaced Hillbilly

    Misplaced Hillbilly Gold Member Gold Member

    May 16, 2018
    I agree, without trying something, and getting a grasp of its full depth you'd never know if its something you'll like and be good at. And mathematical theory like any other is essential to gaining full depth of knowledge.Being raised by a mechanic who also does carpentry, I had an early interest in those things. And tend to use those in my analogies .I think math like mechanics should be taught in linear steps. Every mechanic starts out with a basic tool box. Before you turn the first screw you need to know what a screwdriver is. Before you can do the most simple math equation, you have to know what numbers are. The more advanced mechanics you learn, the more specialized tools you'll have. Me and an aircraft mechanic may both have started with a basic 3/8 drive socket set, but that aircraft mechanic will now have tools I won't know how to use. I'll recognize them as tools, but will have no knowledge of their use. I recognize calculus as math, but have no knowledge of its use.
  6. Henry Beige

    Henry Beige Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 1, 2015
    Try Pynchon’s “Gravity’s Rainbow”, which contains a brilliant description of how an integrating circuit can be used to direct the trajectory of a ballistic missile. It’s rocket science, particularly integral calculus in a practical application, made understandable (sort of) to the layman.
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2018
  7. scrteened porch

    scrteened porch Basic Member Basic Member

    Feb 19, 2012
    I think it's three syllables. I guess it could go either way, though. /fai ri/, /fair i/, /fai schwa ri/, /fai syllabic_r i/.
    (I used to be in linguistics, but it's almost twenty years since I hung up my tongue guns.)
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  8. Prester John

    Prester John Gold Member Basic Member Gold Member

    May 20, 2018
    I pronounce it with two syllables. Simple fix: add the indefinite article before "fiery."
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  9. meako

    meako Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 4, 2006
    I think strictly speaking it's 2 syllables.
    Regional accents may sound it as 3.
    How about
    burn ing fire...or something?
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  10. veitsi_poika

    veitsi_poika Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Nov 25, 2016
    I checked it out on a couple different websites and the majority was two syllables, so I made it "... a fiery..." LoL ;):thumbsup:
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  11. 5K Qs

    5K Qs Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 20, 2014
    Sorry for the delayed response, David. We're not supposed to get political, and the Common Core Curriculum has become a real political football, with people seeing implications for the old battles of states' rights (or even local school districts' rights) versus "one nation ... indivisible", or even connections to the difficult balance between "liberty AND justice for ALL". So I don't want to address any of those disagreements (often between people who really know very little about data-driven best practices in teaching and learning, other than their own school experiences).

    So my personal opinion of Common Core for math is that it's common sense. I think you accurately characterized Common Core standards for math as proposing that students learn both HOW math works (often called procedural knowledge) and WHY it works (part of what's called conceptual knowledge). In our society today, much of the procedural stuff can be quickly and accurately done by technology, but the "why" can only be handled by humans. For example, 36 divided by 3 is easy to calculate. But I think Common Core rightly expects that if kids are to be confident and creative users of math, they need to know a lot more than just 36/3 = 12.

    For example, if I have 36 pocket knives that I want to give to 3 friends, and I want to know how many knives each friend gets, 36 divided by 3 is what we need. But if I have 36 knives that I want to package into boxes of 3, and I want to know how many boxes I'l get, 36 divided by 3 is also what we need. But these two situations are different in the sense that in the first we know how many piles to make and want to find the size of each pile (this is sometimes called "fair sharing"), while in the second we know the size of each pile and want to find how many piles we'll get (this is sometimes called "repeated subtraction" because we keep subtracting 3 knives until we run out). Students ought to learn that both situations call for division. Division of fractions is MUCH easier to understand from a repeated subtraction perspective (3/4 divided by 1/8 asks how many eighths can be subtracted from three fourths, and since each fourth "contains" 2 eighths, there must be a total of 6 eighths in 3/4: 3/4 divided by 1/8 = 6).

    I think Common Core also wants students to realize that 36/3 = 12 is related to 3x12 = 36 = 12x3, that multiplication and division are related. Also that 3x12 means 3 groups of 12, 12+12+12, that multiplication can be seen as repeated addition.
    And that 3x12 = 3x10 + 3x2 = 30 + 6. The more someone knows about how math ideas are related, the more powerful that knowledge is.

    I think the same idea applies to your car analogy. Even though I don't know very much about why cars work, I know a lot more than my daughter does, and I think that makes me a better-equipped car owner than she is. I can do a much better job of trouble-shooting and problem solving than she can, just because I can identify symptoms and their severity and even make reasonable conjectures about what might be wrong based on my better (but still quite limited) understanding of the workings of vehicles.

    Probably all you wanted is my bold-faced sentence. :eek::rolleyes: Sorry to lose control! :D

    - GT
  12. Misplaced Hillbilly

    Misplaced Hillbilly Gold Member Gold Member

    May 16, 2018
    @5K Qs
    Thanks! Actually the long answer is what I was looking for. I agree it can be a touchy subject politically wise. I wanted to know what its about more for my own understanding. Better to get info from the boots on the ground than the talking heads. Seems to me the problem lies in the fact its new for a lot of schools. It will have a few bugs until teachers and those in charge of setting curriculums figure the best way to implement it. Thanks for the well thought out and well worded and concise response:thumbsup:
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  13. JTB_5

    JTB_5 Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 6, 2017
    What about Nichomachus and Euclid?
  14. Jolipapa

    Jolipapa Basic Member Basic Member

    Jun 4, 2015
    From time to time I read people complaining about the time it takes USPS to get your parcel at your home. I'm not in that number, it takes 6-10 days for USPS / La Poste to deliver.
    My birthday being in the very near future (and who knows what I want better than me? ;)), I ordered a shirt in the USA (Columbus, OH) on sept. 27th.
    For some mysterious reasons, my parcel shipped with DHL. Why not. Hub is in Germany (home of DHL), the worrying thing is that it went back to where it landed 9 days ago!!!:eek:
    I hope next step won't be back to Ohio! Usually it takes them less time to get in France...:mad: So, even if sometimes USPS misses it, there's always worse to be found!
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  15. scrteened porch

    scrteened porch Basic Member Basic Member

    Feb 19, 2012
    Best of luck, Jolipapa.
    I think what happens sometimes is a package goes in the hopper upside down and the return address gets scanned.
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  16. Jolipapa

    Jolipapa Basic Member Basic Member

    Jun 4, 2015
    Could be :confused:, I hope not! :eek:
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  17. Fodderwing

    Fodderwing Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 31, 2017
    I feel your pain JP. JB mailed a package Sep 17 to me. Langley, UK to Gatwin, UK to Chicago where it sat a few days, then back to Langley, UK where it took another rest. Back to Gatwin, UK and on to Chicago again. I have daily tracked it and this morning it says it has arrived!!! :D 24 days from what I've been told is not too bad...:eek: Haven't picked it up yet. Hope it weathered the miles okay.
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  18. r redden

    r redden Gold Member Gold Member

    May 23, 2015
    Back out of the hospital this time just 2 days. I think I'm going to start offering our hospital as an alternative address for me. As the Rolling Stones said in the first line of "Mothers Little Helper" "What a drag it is getting old" :eek::eek::eek:

  19. Prester John

    Prester John Gold Member Basic Member Gold Member

    May 20, 2018
    Better than the Who's "hope I die before I get old" (My Generation)!
  20. Peregrin

    Peregrin Traditional Forum Moderator Moderator Gold Member

    Sep 2, 2004

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