"Carl's Lounge" (Off-Topic Discussion, Traditional Knife "Tales & Vignettes")

[Jack Black]

I tried wearing it for a while to see if it would kick start - no joy. I was reluctant to wind too much for fear of doing damage. I know very little about watches, the last watch I wore was a Casio Gshock that was ripped off my wrist (for the second time, and the second strap) in a barney at work several years ago so I just stopped wearing them. But if I can get this running again I'd love to wear it off duty perhaps...

I'm sure someone here will be able to advise you Paul, but if not, there's a whole WORLD of watch forums! Glad the trip went OK pal :thumbup:

 

[mrknife]

Randy, congratulations!



I'm back from Ulster. Had a nice time with the in laws and family but its good to be back home.

Before I left I was rummaging around in a box looking for a spare multi-socket extension to take with us. Don't we need so many things plugged in these days? The box was of the sort that I'm sure most of you have; it contains things which we didn't throw away the last time we moved house but probably should have and other odds and ends. Anyway, I found this in there:





It was my paternal grandfather's and I remember him wearing it up until he had to go into care due to dementia.

I know nothing about watches really apart from the ability to tell time but I know many of the members here do...





It does not work. From what I can tell, it has the brand name Tudor with the old rose emblem, and says "oyster prince" on the dial under Tudor. At the 6 o'clock it says "T swiss T". The face is a lovely champagne colour. Its clearly well worn and the glass/sapphire (??!!??) dome is scratched quite a bit. From what I can tell its from the 60s which sounds about right, but I can't find a model number or any other info about it.

Anybody know anything about it? Is it worth getting it restored?

Thanks for looking,

Paul

Very gorgeous, that is a Tudor, the sister company of rolex. The Model is actually on the watch itself. It is the Oyster Prince. Join us on the Rolex Forums if you like. Lots of knowledgeable folks there! In the older models, if you carefully remove the watch band, they are usually inscribed there. The model no. and the serial no.. Id get it restored sheerly for sentimental reasons. I wish I had my grandfather's rolex. It was passed to the eldest son, my uncle and he wore it until the crystal rotted and the jubilee stretched. To this day I seek to find out what my grandfather wore. He had passed very early when my father was young.

 

[Jolipapa]

Try again to wind it up, and shake it gently a few times to see if the seconds hand moves. If it does, move the other hands with the winder (never backward) this could relaunch it. You can wind her a lot, there is no spring inside that could break.
Even if it does not tick, it is worth repairing maybe some tidying and oiling would suffice.
We had a president (a short man) that once said that if you don't have a Rolex at 50, your just a loser.

 

[TsarBomba]

How about a Tissot at 40?

 

[pmew]

I'm sure someone here will be able to advise you Paul, but if not, there's a whole WORLD of watch forums! Glad the trip went OK pal :thumbup:

I joined a forum called watchuseek - the sheer number of forums and subforfums makes for a pretty intimidating experience for a complete watch novice...

Very gorgeous, that is a Tudor, the sister company of rolex. The Model is actually on the watch itself. It is the Oyster Prince. Join us on the Rolex Forums if you like. Lots of knowledgeable folks there! In the older models, if you carefully remove the watch band, they are usually inscribed there. The model no. and the serial no.. Id get it restored sheerly for sentimental reasons. I wish I had my grandfather's rolex. It was passed to the eldest son, my uncle and he wore it until the crystal rotted and the jubilee stretched. To this day I seek to find out what my grandfather wore. He had passed very early when my father was young.

I probably will have it restored for that reason, although I'm nervous about what it might cost..

Try again to wind it up, and shake it gently a few times to see if the seconds hand moves. If it does, move the other hands with the winder (never backward) this could relaunch it. You can wind her a lot, there is no spring inside that could break.
Even if it does not tick, it is worth repairing maybe some tidying and oiling would suffice.
We had a president (a short man) that once said that if you don't have a Rolex at 50, your just a loser.

I'm in my thirties, plenty of time yet

How about a Tissot at 40?

My old man has worn the same gold tissot for as long as I can remember - top notch in my book


Thanks for the help guys,

Paul

 

[r redden]

Paul I think I would take it to an authorized Rolex dealer to be cleaned and checked out. I don't know much about watches but do know that these vintage Tudor watches can be worth from a few hundred to a few thousand US dollars. More important is where it came from. Congratulations on finding such a wonderful heirloom my friend.

 

[leghog]

Randy, congratulations!



I'm back from Ulster. Had a nice time with the in laws and family but its good to be back home.

Before I left I was rummaging around in a box looking for a spare multi-socket extension to take with us. Don't we need so many things plugged in these days? The box was of the sort that I'm sure most of you have; it contains things which we didn't throw away the last time we moved house but probably should have and other odds and ends. Anyway, I found this in there:





It was my paternal grandfather's and I remember him wearing it up until he had to go into care due to dementia.

I know nothing about watches really apart from the ability to tell time but I know many of the members here do...





It does not work. From what I can tell, it has the brand name Tudor with the old rose emblem, and says "oyster prince" on the dial under Tudor. At the 6 o'clock it says "T swiss T". The face is a lovely champagne colour. Its clearly well worn and the glass/sapphire (??!!??) dome is scratched quite a bit. From what I can tell its from the 60s which sounds about right, but I can't find a model number or any other info about it.

Anybody know anything about it? Is it worth getting it restored?

Thanks for looking,

Paul

Yes, it is worth getting restored; however, be very careful re the restoration. Your watch is collectable and an improper restoration will destroy any collectability. No need to do that to an heirloom (and that is an heirloom quality watch). Do not allow the dial to be either replaced or repainted. Keep it original. I'd not send it Rolex service. I'd send it to a competent watchmaker and have it taken apart, inspected, and cleaned. That's likely all it needs if he was wearing it until it was put up. If it needs any parts those are likely minor. The box is valuable too, so care for it (and any of the paperwork).

The "T"'s on either side of the "SWISS" mean tritium which was what was used for lume. It's half life is 12.5 years so you can expect the lume to be useless. Regardless do not get the dial repainted to gain lume.

The movement number will be on the bridge of the movement and will be identified once the case back comes off. With that number, you'll be able to date the watch. I believe you'll discover the watch is from the early '60s. Rolex began using tritium in 1960.

 

[mrknife]

Make sure to keep all original parts! I believe rolex doesn't do restorations and repairs and stops carrying the parts after a certain amount of time. So you might have to go outside to private restoration outfits. There are a few names tossed around on the Rolex forums, so definitely investigate carefully first.

 

[mrknife]

Paul I think I would take it to an authorized Rolex dealer to be cleaned and checked out. I don't know much about watches but do know that these vintage Tudor watches can be worth from a few hundred to a few thousand US dollars. More important is where it came from. Congratulations on finding such a wonderful heirloom my friend.

cmon now Randy, why dont ya strap on that rolex of yours and post a picture! Im quite curious the model of submariner you have

 

[Rookie82]

I'm a little late here. Congrats Randy, I had similar feelings myself. My daughter graduated kindergarten on Friday, and that brought a tear to my eye. They had a little ceremony and paper cap/gowns. I don't know how I'll do it when she graduates high school in 12 years.

Regarding the Rolex, I don't know anything about watches except I know what looks nice. And that one looks nice!

 

[JB in SC]

Make sure to keep all original parts! I believe rolex doesn't do restorations and repairs and stops carrying the parts after a certain amount of time. So you might have to go outside to private restoration outfits. There are a few names tossed around on the Rolex forums, so definitely investigate carefully first.

Rolex maintains parts inventory for thirty years after a model is discontinued. There are a few guys that specialize in vintage Tudor / Rolex repair. Good advice offered, do not allow anyone to replace any of the external parts especially the dial, hands, or bracelet. I've worn my GMT Master everyday for over thirty years.

 

[Jack Black]

I joined a forum called watchuseek - the sheer number of forums and subforfums makes for a pretty intimidating experience for a complete watch novice...

I know exactly what you mean Paul, I spent a few days reading them when I was looking to buy a new day-to-day watch. Guys discussing miniscule differences between models, complaining about the tiniest time difference, buying every single colour of the same model - kind of reminded me of this place! :thumbup:

 

[meako]

Try again to wind it up, and shake it gently a few times to see if the seconds hand moves. If it does, move the other hands with the winder (never backward) this could relaunch it. You can wind her a lot, there is no spring inside that could break.
Even if it does not tick, it is worth repairing maybe some tidying and oiling would suffice.
We had a president (a short man) that once said that if you don't have a Rolex at 50, your just a loser.

Short on tact and diplomacy

quick ID parade...
watch forum guy

Traditional knife forum guy

any questions?

 

[meako]

Your story reminds me when one day we were having an aperitif in the garden of my parents in the Alps, when we heard a tremendous buzz coming from the other side of the mountain and suddenly we saw a Flying Fortress very low over our heads. It was so low that we could see details. The last time my parents had heard that noise was in april 1944 when they were bombing the important La Chapelle marshalling yard.
Too bad we did not react quickly and shoot a picture. All day long we stared at the show of vintage planes going to a meeting near Lausanne just the other side of the Léman lake. They had to fly incredibly low as they were crossing the way of commercial planes towards the Geneva airport.

Only one thing impresses me more and thats gotta be steam trains.

 

[Jolipapa]

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I probably will have it restored for that reason, although I'm nervous about what it might cost..
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As wisely said said before by r redden and leghog, You'd rather not go for a restoration, better ask for simply fixing what's wrong and keep it in her "juice" (could not find a better translation ).

I'm in my thirties, plenty of time yet
...

My 50s are way behind me and I still have none! So... according to this Mr...

My old man has worn the same gold tissot for as long as I can remember - top notch in my book
...

How about a Tissot at 40?

Done that! My Ma was working at the parisian Tissot/Omega office before and during the wwII. This was my heirloom. I had to get the winder fixed about 15 years ago, now she's bound to tick for the next 50 years!

Short on tact and diplomacy

He also used to insult opponents!

Only one thing impresses me more and thats gotta be steam trains.

+1 :thumbup: And steamships as well! Plus it takes me back to my youth when I was going on summer holidays in Hungary/Yougo on the Orient Express with my paternal grand parents. The journey was their only luxury, they bought Wagon-Lits tickets with the restaurant! Fantastic souvenirs, except that you could not open the windows for fear of incandescent cinders from the Pacific!

 

[leghog]

Rolex maintains parts inventory for thirty years after a model is discontinued. There are a few guys that specialize in vintage Tudor / Rolex repair. Good advice offered, do not allow anyone to replace any of the external parts especially the dial, hands, or bracelet. I've worn my GMT Master everyday for over thirty years.

Do not allow anyone to replace any of the movement's parts either, excepting cracked bearings or mainspring, etc.

 

[leghog]

Early last Sunday morning I was driving through Gordonsville, VA, and I caught something out of the corner of my eye.

Turned the 4Runner around and found this. Just don't see them much anymore, especially on active CSX rail lines and sidings. Have no idea why it was there.

On the other side of the crossing was an old freight house.

 

[mrknife]

I know exactly what you mean Paul, I spent a few days reading them when I was looking to buy a new day-to-day watch. Guys discussing miniscule differences between models, complaining about the tiniest time difference, buying every single colour of the same model - kind of reminded me of this place! :thumbup:

that rolex 3185 vs 3186 vs 3187 matters!!!!

 

[ConBon]

I can't catch up, so ill just drop this nugget of advice.

After two days of a MIA opinel, i knew it was in the laundry. Finding it in the just finished washer, I didn't bother taking it out, just put it in the dryer.
A little bit of rust on the carbon blade, that i swiped off with 1000 grit paper, but opening was just as smooth as before.

Plus it's clean! [emoji14]

Connor

 

[Jack Black]

that rolex 3185 vs 3186 vs 3187 matters!!!!

:thumbup: