Carothers and Guns

Blues said:
Too bad they don't incorporate an inner "holster" to keep the trigger covered like my vintage Eagle packs from the 1990's do. I have them in G19 and G26 size. They rarely get carried anymore, but they've earned their keep.

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Yup. A $10 kydex trigger guard rigged on a short leash solved the problem pretty easily, tho. It pops off just as the pistol clears the bag. :thumbsup:
 
Yeah, it was hard to miss. My point is that they are a premium product...and they shouldn't cut corners. There's way too much of that going around.

I didn't have to tell Eagle to do it right, they had it set up correctly from the get-go.

Too many companies taking short cuts, imho. Amazing how my old Bagster and other gear from the 80, 90's and early 2000's have taken a beating and not missed a beat.

But, this is no longer a surprise to any of us.
 
Blues said:
Yeah, it was hard to miss. My point is that they are a premium product...and they shouldn't cut corners. There's way too much of that going around.

I didn't have to tell Eagle to do it right, they had it set up correctly from the get-go.

Too many companies taking short cuts, imho. Amazing how my old Bagster and other gear from the 80, 90's and early 2000's has taken a beating and not missed a beat.

But, this is no longer a surprise to any of us.
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I don't think their position is that they are taking any 'short cuts' but that instead they have designed the bag to give people options to have it set up how you want (and there are plenty of people I wouldn't believe that from, but not the HPG guys). They maintain that an inner holster isn't really necessary at all - of course, nothing but the pistol is, or should be, stored in that separate pocket. Once you are wearing the chest rig and it's all snugged up, the pistol is held pretty firmly against your body, it can't really move around and there is nothing inside the pocket that would interfere with a trigger. I've carried 1911s and DA/SAs for a decade in these kit bags, and have never had concerns about a misfire at all. But now that I'm carrying a striker with no manual safety, I've opted for the trigger guard for just a little extra piece of mind.

The difference I see with that Eagle bag is that it is designed to store the pistol and other stuff in the same compartment, so in that case yeah, an inner holster is definitely a necessity.
 
Smithhammer said:
For a lot of my hiking, I use a Hill People Gear 'Kit Bag' chest rig. With a little practice it's quite easy and fast to draw from, and on more popular trails, it's low-key enough to keep from freaking out the sheeple.

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Definitely 2nd the HPG bags. I have the gray Runner's bag. Without all the molle some of their other bags have (and a nice, generic gray), it's discreet enough that the normies aren't alarmed. Fits a G26 or G19, but won't fit a G20 though.

And as fast as bear attacks can happen, having the grip in the open with the Kenai chest rig is a plus.
 
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Blues said:
Yeah, it was hard to miss. My point is that they are a premium product...and they shouldn't cut corners. There's way too much of that going around.

I didn't have to tell Eagle to do it right, they had it set up correctly from the get-go.

Too many companies taking short cuts, imho. Amazing how my old Bagster and other gear from the 80, 90's and early 2000's have taken a beating and not missed a beat.

But, this is no longer a surprise to any of us.
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Maybe they think it allows broader market appeal than just for CCW? The reason these chest bags aren't immediately ID'ed as CCW pouches by non gun folks, is because they're not uncommon with backpackers/hikers/MTB riders.

They do provide a nylon loop in the main pouch, for tying a kydex guard to, though.
 
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I was going to bring up the issues I see with the setup, but I don't really think there's anything to be gained by doing so. So I've deleted my post.

I do like the look of their gear however, and I have heard good things from associates.


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I'm familiar with this type of gear. It's seen pretty often among tactical users, as well as among outdoor enthusiasts.
 
EMCEE said:
I appreciate this brother. I ordered the kydex rig the same day I purchased the gun. I’ll definitely check out the Diamond D leather rig though. Can’t have “too much of a good thing”, right ?
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Never too much! I love Kydex for lots of reason’s, but also dislike the noise it makes when drawing or when scraping brush. Diamond D offers a flap cover which is really nice for added protection. It is also nice having tension screw on the holsters so that when you are in an area that is sketchy (like fresh bear scat and smelling a bear) you can have the gun secured with just tension and have the hammer loop (wheelgun fan) off.

I think you will love chest carry. It is so convenient for many scenarios and comfortable with backpack or swinging arms.
To me the most important thing with a holster is getting one you will wear! 😀
Enjoy and stay safe!
 
Blues said:
I was going to bring up the issues I see with the setup, but I don't really think there's anything to be gained by doing so. So I've deleted my post.

I do like the look of their gear however, and I have heard good things from associates.
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No worries on my end, Elliot - I value your experience and insight, and I always welcome healthy critique. It's how we all learn and get better. :thumbsup:
 
EMCEE said:
….@ M67, have you ran any 200 or 220 grain Buffalo Bore or Underwood hard cast rounds through it. If so, how’d they perform ? Thank you.
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Finally shot it today. 180gr S&B FMJ felt like Unsuppressed 45 auto. 200gr Underwood hard casts you could tell kicked more but the gun handled very well. For me it was point of aim-point if impact though, used to a 6 o’clock hold so was shooting a tad low.

Was doing all this before the tornados/storms came through So was a little rushed. At 35 yards hitting a 66% IPSC target was pretty easy. 15 yards, FMJ was holding a 3” group fairly easy. Hardcasts were opening but the sky was getting dark and the thunder was picking up so I’m gonna say that was me 🤣

Also, both mags, the 15rd sucked to get in, so both probably have a break in

Only complaint I have atm is the little “tit” at the bottom of the trigger, finger would slide down and that would dig in a little
 
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M67 said:
Finally shot it today. 180gr S&B FMJ felt like Unsuppressed 45 auto. 200gr Underwood hard casts you could tell kicked more but the gun handled very well. For me it was point of aim-point if impact though, used to a 6 o’clock hold so was shooting a tad low.

Was doing all this before the tornados/storms came through So was a little rushed. At 35 yards hitting a 66% IPSC target was pretty easy. 15 yards, FMJ was holding a 3” group fairly easy. Hardcasts were opening but the sky was getting dark and the thunder was picking up so I’m gonna say that was me 🤣

Also, both mags, the 15rd sucked to get in, so both probably have a break in

Only complaint I have atm is the little “tit” at the bottom of the trigger, finger would slide down and that would dig in a little
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Just got back from trying mine out. Good times! I’ll report back on it in a bit….Thank you for the update on the “monster”!
 
Sig P320 X TEN 10mm w/ Eotech EFLX 6 MOA red dot. IMG_3969.jpegIMG_3970.jpegFound a spot in the nearby mountains to put the new girl through her paces.The range was set up at 26 yards, shooting from table and rest. Ammo: Winchester 180 gr target load, Underwood 200 gr and 220 gr.

The Buffalo Bore would not cycle cleanly. I had loaded 10 rounds in a mag and manually cycled them. The first 6 hung up on each ejection. Needless to say, I did not fire them.

The Grizzly 200 gr didn’t get its day in court either. It appears to be uncoated lead and I didn’t want to risk the fouling.

Winchester: 30 rounds, comfortable recoil, on target but all over. I thought I had the Eotech sighted in at this point. Sighted w/ 3 to 5 shot groups and 1 MOA per click.

Underwood 200 gr hc ft : 30 rounds AWESOME !!! I switched between the 200 and 220, again shooting 3 to 5 round groups. The 200 was more accurate (for me) and a smidge more comfortable to shoot.

Underwood 220 gr : definitely felt the recoil but got it down to a 2.5 in group after 35 shots.


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The X TEN was amazing to shoot ! The shape and texturing of the grip along w/ the dove tail lock the hand in. Trigger pull is smooth, short, and crisp ( for stock). These combined w/ the weight and balance allowed for very enjoyable shooting, even with the “hot stuff”.

After about 60 shots, I had one 220 gr hang up. I field cleaned the pistol nd it all smoothed back out. In the end, I was finally happy w/ the last 7 shots. Wish I would’ve had more time and more ammo. IMG_3973.jpeg
 
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