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Comeandtakeit welches ........AGAIN...........AND AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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If that were to happen, you would file charges and let the legal system decide what is right and what is not. If the legal system then feels that you are in the right, they will issue a warrant for the return of your property. At this point it is a "he said/she said" only. You have no legal standing to demand ANYTHING from an innocent third party, just like you couldn't demand you car back without getting the legal system involved.
Focus on comeandgetit and getting your money back. For now that is all that you are entitled to.
You never possessed the knife.
You like the car analogy so,
It would be like giving a car dealer money for a car, then they refund it, but you leave a check on the sales managers desk and they deposit it.
Meanwhile they accept money from someone else and actually title the car to them, give them the keys, and they drive off.
You are owed the money (or the car, true enough) but you only have a legal claim to the money they put in the bank.
Colubrid,
Concentrate on the matter at hand..PLEASE......
I suspect most here think you are the injured party but you are only muddying the waters, and continued insistence on "your knife" and the "buyer" will only loose you support.
Concentrate on the matter at hand..PLEASE......
I suspect most here think you are the injured party but you are only muddying the waters, and continued insistence on "your knife" and the "buyer" will only loose you support.
He originally welched on the knife. Because I would rather have my Emerson Gentleman Jim than the money. So now I don't have the money either. So he welched twice.
As far as getting another one. Well anyone have a LNIB Emerson Gentleman Jim for $140.?.. I don't think so.
As far as getting another one. Well anyone have a LNIB Emerson Gentleman Jim for $140.?.. I don't think so.
Good idea
As far as you know he never had that knife either. Or if he did maybe it wasn't exactly LNIB after all. For all we know someone else who has no clue any of this is going on will soon be debating what he should do about the knife he paid for that has yet to show up.
If $140 for a LNIB Gentleman Jim is too good to be true, well, it's too good to be true now isn't it?
There is always more knives. Just focus on getting your money back. You're going to rupture something if you don't relax, then he wins.
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You have a valid claim to the $$s (and the moral high ground IMHO) but not a claim to the property it's self as you have never had possession of or "title" over it. The car dealership analogy above is correct, just because you keep pushing the $$s at the car dealer because it is "a screaming deal" does not mean they have to agree to sell to you, you issue here and now is solely the $$s. Whoever bought the blade (assuming someone has and is in possession of it) has ownership, ergo the moment that the seller refused your $$s he was free to do with that blade as he pleased, the new owner is free and clear of this situation (unwittingly is my guess but free and clear none the less).
As I said before you still (mostly) have the high ground, I say mostly only as the seller can, no matter that he accepted your $s in the first instance, back out (and of course return your $$$s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!). Stay focused on the $$s and NOT the knife !!
As I said before you still (mostly) have the high ground, I say mostly only as the seller can, no matter that he accepted your $s in the first instance, back out (and of course return your $$$s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!). Stay focused on the $$s and NOT the knife !!
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Both of you have posted emails from Paypal showing funds sent to and refunds from his .yahoo email, which Comeandtakeit claims is linked to a paypal account with a bank account which has been closed.
From what I've gathered so far, please correct me if I'm wrong; this thread is a mess.
-Colubrid sent $150 to Comeandtakeit for an Emerson Gentleman Jim
-Comeandtakeit sent (4) pictures with which Colubrid noticed a flaw in the pivot, requested $20 since the item was not as described (LNIB). AFTER 1ST PAYMENT WAS SENT
-Colubrid agreed on $10 instead of $20 because he was "being nice", Comeandtakeit never sends the $10.
-Colubrid threaten's to start a negative thread if Comeandtakeit does not discount the knife $10
-Comeandtakeit feels threatened/annoyed/bullied...ETC refunds the full $150.
-Colubrid thinks he made a mistake re-sends payment less the $10 ($140) TO WHICH COMEANDTAKEIT CLAIMS WAS SENT TO A .YAHOO ADDRESS LINKED TO THE WRONG PAYPAL LINKED TO A CLOSED BANK ACCOUNT
-Colubrid gets an email from paypal:
-Comeandtakeit
Colubird claims to never have even heard from you, he assumed it was a mistake and resent $10 less ($140).
IF you didn't want to deal with him, why did you tell him to re-send the money?
-Comeandtakeit
So NO ONE HAS POSTED ANY EMAILS FROM REFUNDS OR PAYMENTS SENT FROM ANY GMAIL ACCOUNT. Better yet, screen snap shots are better since someone maybe editing copy and pasted emails. OR maybe someone else that has delt with Comeandtakeit can personally vouch this GMAIL account exists.
Comeandtakeit prove Colubrid sent $150 to a GMAIL account, and that $150 was refunded.
Comeandtakeit said he "clicked refund" (assuming this is the obsolete account (.yahoo) he's mentioning).
When money is sent to Paypal, it sits there... until either you spend it, withdraw it, or donate it. IF he logged into his OBSOLETE Paypal (.yahoo) that was linked to a dead bank account, $140 should have been sitting there, unable to be transferred to the closed bank account, but possibly spent or donated (or withdrawn IF another bank account was added). SO if that (.yahoo) account is static and NOT used, $140 should have been there, untouched, able to be refunded without any need of a banks involvement. Why it was sent as an eCheck is unclear to me because the $140 should have been there, and should have been sent as a refund; NOT an eCheck.
So Colubrid, did you send the first payment of $150 to a GMAIL account? And was the FIRST refund of $150 refunded as a refund; was it successful? Did you send the SECOND payment of $140 to a YAHOO account?
Comeandtakeit please explain why you sent $140 as an eCheck. Either Colubrid is lying and it was sent as a refund (as comeandtakeit said he "clicked refund"), and those emails about an eCheck declining is a smoke screen or this is an elaborate scam by Comeandtakeit which he has 2 Paypal's (sketchy), or he cleared his account, and does not have enough ($140) in his account to cover the eCheck, or he deleted an active account on his YAHOO Paypal leaving a closed account, which or course will decline an eCheck.
Real screen shots from both of you (the truthful would be willing) posted on this page, or sent to a mod can clear this up.
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These conflict. SOMEONE is editing the copy and paste, actual screen shots from either of you will confirm this.
Colubrid, screen shot the email, and post it or send it to a Mod.
Comeandtakeit, screen shot that Paypal statement, and post it or send it to a Mod.
Problem solved, any money owed can be taken up with Paypal and or law enforcement.
Alright, it's time to start moving forward. Forget about the knife, it's long gone. What you need to do is start thinking clearly, and get your money back because this is beyond ridiculous. I've send Corey some PMs, he know what he needs to do.
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1. Op emails he wants the knife and to send pics of the knife
2. I send pics and GMAIL PayPal info
3. Op sends payment to GMAIL PayPal
4. Op emails complaining about condition of the knife. Wants $20 off the price he already paid.
5. Op retracts and says he will settle for $10 off
6. I agreed to do the $10 off
7. Op is still emailing complaining about the knife
8. I say to just make this easy here's all your money back and issued a full refund. Take care. This is where I should've been more clear bc the op took this as I'm too stupid to do a partial refund instead of the I'm done dealing with you and here's your money back that it was meant to be.
9. Op tries to re send money minus the $10. But this time he just uses my email assuming they are the same instead of the PayPal info I originally gave him.
10. I do the same thing as before and issue a refund. It shows refunded but pending. That money never left the PayPal system and there is nothing I can do beyond what I've already done by clicking refund. PayPal still has his money and He needs to go thru them to get it back.
11. Op sends a wtf email. I explain I refunded him and don't want to sell to him.
12. Op threatens me with this bash thread if I don't sell him the knife at his discount price. Op is fully aware of the previous thread where I had a disagreement with another member and is trying to hold that over my head at this point to get his way.
13. I decline and the next day this thread is started.
14. Since then I have had no contact with the op other than thru this thread.
I can and will provide screen shots of everything to the mods to back this up but I'm not posting anything else here.
2. I send pics and GMAIL PayPal info
3. Op sends payment to GMAIL PayPal
4. Op emails complaining about condition of the knife. Wants $20 off the price he already paid.
5. Op retracts and says he will settle for $10 off
6. I agreed to do the $10 off
7. Op is still emailing complaining about the knife
8. I say to just make this easy here's all your money back and issued a full refund. Take care. This is where I should've been more clear bc the op took this as I'm too stupid to do a partial refund instead of the I'm done dealing with you and here's your money back that it was meant to be.
9. Op tries to re send money minus the $10. But this time he just uses my email assuming they are the same instead of the PayPal info I originally gave him.
10. I do the same thing as before and issue a refund. It shows refunded but pending. That money never left the PayPal system and there is nothing I can do beyond what I've already done by clicking refund. PayPal still has his money and He needs to go thru them to get it back.
11. Op sends a wtf email. I explain I refunded him and don't want to sell to him.
12. Op threatens me with this bash thread if I don't sell him the knife at his discount price. Op is fully aware of the previous thread where I had a disagreement with another member and is trying to hold that over my head at this point to get his way.
13. I decline and the next day this thread is started.
14. Since then I have had no contact with the op other than thru this thread.
I can and will provide screen shots of everything to the mods to back this up but I'm not posting anything else here.
If it where me I would be in contact with Paypal and find out why it just shows pending and not paid. It is your responsibility to see that the OP gets his money back. It is your account. You insisting it's between Paypal and the OP is ridiculous.
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Quite frankly I am not so sure I would want to do biz with either one of these two guys. Funny how these threads turn out sometimes.
Gaston,
The events as Comeandgetit did not happen exactly the way he posted. I did not complain about the knife after we agreed he knock $10. . He states I complained afterwards and I did not. I did complain before because the pivot had wear on a knife he was advertising as LNIB. So I don't know if complaining is the correct word. but whatever.I did hwoever send email threatening to make a post here if he did not send me the knife I payed for. he said "I have been down that road before on BF and nothing will be accomplished by that except wasting our time' I did NOT know he had another thread until after he stated that he had trouble here before. So know there are a lot of twisting the seller has done here in events and it would take writing pages of correcting his BS and I don't think people want to read that so I am going to keep it short.
Anyway, Gaston..I think you and I might have even done business in the past years (or I just see your username a lot on posts). I would hate to ruin anything with you ar anyone because of this guy. I was just upset last night that I still did not have funds returened to me and frankly it scared me when I got the email from Paypal because I lost the money and made me angry.
But I agree with the mods and don't want to muck things up by posting more. I just want my money and have this be over . I appreciate the support here. Thanks.
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It was never your knife, and no you don't have the right to know who has it.
Sorry this happened, but you really need to forget about the knife at this point, and worry about the refund only.
Hopefully the money will be in your account today.
Thats what I'm starting to think.
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