- Joined
- Feb 3, 2004
- Messages
- 7,119
Yep. I want to see you get to 15,000 post too.Oh, it exposes something alright, but I can't say it here
So, anybody else want to rag on Chinese-made knives they've never seen or handled?
Last edited:
-
The BladeForums.com 2024 Traditional Knife is ready to order! See this thread for details: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/bladeforums-2024-traditional-knife.2003187/
Price is$300$250 ea (shipped within CONUS). If you live outside the US, I will contact you after your order for extra shipping charges.
Order here: https://www.bladeforums.com/help/2024-traditional/ - Order as many as you like, we have plenty.
Country of origin
- Thread starter Twinsdad
- Start date
- Status
So, anybody else want to rag on Chinese-made knives they've never seen or handled?
Nailed it. its ignorance, not in a negative manner, it's just the word used when people try to explain something they know nothing about. Like Chinese knives are all junk. The statement is ignorant, not the person. So if your behind is offended by that, you're not ignorant, the info you post is based on ignorance. Look the word up. The hurt is multiplied when someone says they use them and they are made of quality materials and function perfect. No effing way experience can trump an inexperienced opinion. So we get this awesome thread.
It sure is!
Be careful now. Don't be tripping over any of leghog's junk out there.
You really need to get a life man. How many times have you even posted in this thread alone.
Why don't you just stop posting in this thread, all you are doing is inspiring fighting and it's getting ridiculous. This is supposed to be a happy knife forum not a place for childish bickering. Your opinion is not always right man. I am sure more then one person is sick of your posts in here and you are going to get the thread locked. Please go away if you nothing else positive to say. I get it, you love China. You should start planing to move there so we can talk constructively about knives again.
Still using "Sinophobe" because they don't like Chinese made knives. The implication being that because you don't like Chinese made knives you must dislike everything made in China,
a biased assumption. Exactly the same as someone saying that every Chinese made knife is crap. Obviously some are and some aren't. But both positions are extremes which do not
reflect the real situation. And my sensibilities are nowhere near as delicate as you may think. lol
- Joined
- Feb 3, 2004
- Messages
- 7,119
So let's get back to talking constructively about knives again. As you brought it up, how about you go first.
- Joined
- Jun 29, 2005
- Messages
- 16,379
I really don't think he can help it.
He does this in many threads he injects himself into, and especially any about China.
I already gave my opinion in this thread. What I didn't do is stick around for days, posting countless times, trying to convince everyone else in the thread that my opinion is the only right one.
Vast majority here haven't said Chinese knives are all junk.
Some have said they try not to support business out of the PRC because of political and economic ideology, poor QC, outright lies about quality and materials, intellectual theft, commercial/industrial espionage, etc.
Some have said they try not to support business out of the PRC because of political and economic ideology, poor QC, outright lies about quality and materials, intellectual theft, commercial/industrial espionage, etc.
- Joined
- Feb 3, 2004
- Messages
- 7,119
Wait. Weren't you the one who suggested we should go back to talking about knives? What are you waiting for?
- Joined
- Mar 27, 2014
- Messages
- 1,116
I typically do not buy knives from mainland China.
I don't like all the counterfeiting,patent stealing, false marking and crappy QC
I'd rather pay the small premium to get a US made version or just pick another model.
I havent checked out the reate, sanrenmu or other makers trying to get into the industry
I don't like all the counterfeiting,patent stealing, false marking and crappy QC
I'd rather pay the small premium to get a US made version or just pick another model.
I havent checked out the reate, sanrenmu or other makers trying to get into the industry
- Joined
- Feb 3, 2004
- Messages
- 7,119
They're not trying to get into the industry. They're already here. And they're not going to go away. Heck, some of them even have their very own manufacturer's forums right here on Bladeforums. And while some folks apparently haven't caught on to that fact, I for one am happy to see them here. I guess Spark is too. Otherwise I assume they wouldn't be here.
I'd suggest you jump right in, Sunyata! The water's fine.
Last edited:
I am not waiting, I have nothing else to currently add to this thread. The OP was just a simple question after all. It's hard to read people's responses though when I have to sort through 26 of your negative posts every page. You should move on man, China has a very large army to defend itself already.
- Joined
- Mar 27, 2014
- Messages
- 1,116
They're not trying to get into the industry. They're already here. And they're not going to go away. Heck, some of them even have their very own manufacturer's forums right here on Bladeforums. And while some folks apparently haven't caught on to that fact, I for one am happy to see them here.
I'd suggest you jump right in, Sunyata! The water's fine.
So far there hasn't been a design that really struck me. Reate has some handle designs but the blade shapes kinda kill it but it would be the brand I'd look at.They have orginial designs using better materials, something I like so I watch the Reate threads have seen their reps post and follow them.
Not a fan of sanrenmu as a few of their designs are easily identified as a Sebenza knock off, a cryo/thermite knock off, an unlicensed Vex, another design copies the shitty auto lawks from CRKT and another an axis clone I doubt they're paying a dime for. Things I don't like.
- Joined
- Feb 3, 2004
- Messages
- 7,119
I haven't tried a Reate yet although I've heard very good things about them. My experience of high-quality Chinese knives is limited to two Kizers and a Kevin John. In all three cases, the knives are just excellent. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend a Kizer.
We're having a discussion in the Kizer Forum right now about my latest acquisition, the Splinter. RamZar has promised to post some pics of it compared to his ZT 0450 this weekend. The knives are very similar in terms of size and materials but not in terms of price, of course. Feel free to tag along if you like. Here's the thread:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1299757
We're having a discussion in the Kizer Forum right now about my latest acquisition, the Splinter. RamZar has promised to post some pics of it compared to his ZT 0450 this weekend. The knives are very similar in terms of size and materials but not in terms of price, of course. Feel free to tag along if you like. Here's the thread:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1299757
Last edited:
- Joined
- Mar 27, 2014
- Messages
- 1,116
Kizer was the one that was in the back of my mine but I couldn't recall. I've been paying attention to them for a while as a couple pop up in the EDC thread. They have some interesting original designs. The splinter looks really good expect the unfortunate writing on the blade . Tomcat and splinter look like they threw them on and doesn't flow with the style of the knife but not a deal breaker.
I have the 450 and carry it often so I'll be interested in the pics
What you will find with some of the brands and models you mention is the Sanrenmu, Enlan and so on have models that other companies a contract to have their name put on a blade. Charge $20.00-$30.00 more for the name and no cost for tooling up, pure profit. Yup, they have a similar to CR knife model but it's nowhere near even being advertised as one or marked as one with some major changes in design. It's not a case of Chinese knives copying kershaw or SOG designs. It's Kershaw and SOG (just two random examples where you will find the same exact knife being sold under the actual manufacturers name for significantly less) jumping on no tooling costs, stamping their name on it and charging more for the privilege of buying their name.
- Joined
- Feb 3, 2004
- Messages
- 7,119
I agree. I'm not a big fan of blade etching either. But for $118
. . . oh, what a knife! :thumbup: Fluted Titanium handles, Titanium backspacer, Titanium clip, S35VN blade steel, caged ceramic bearings, effortless flipping, rock solid lockup, perfect centering . . . what's not to like for that kind of price? I can't wait to see what the pricing will be like on the upcoming Kizer/Laconico collaboration. I suspect the knife will be too large for me to EDC, but I'm such a big fan of Ray's knives I may need to buy one anyway.
Last edited:
- Status