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Creeps in the Woods
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I could hide it closed in my hand , and it was worn well enough that the blade would flick out and I could spin the lock one handed , and close it the same . There was just enough drag that the blade stayed closed . I miss it , whoever stole it isnt going to appreciate it , hope it cuts them , often , and deep .
I could hide it closed in my hand , and it was worn well enough that the blade would flick out and I could spin the lock one handed , and close it the same . There was just enough drag that the blade stayed closed . I miss it , whoever stole it isnt going to appreciate it , hope it cuts them , often , and deep .
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I've been shot at ( mistaken for game) about 8 years ago buy a drunken fool while crossing a road. Shooting from,across, or especially down a road (as in my case) is completely illegal here.
I heard about 3-4 shots whizzing past my head. I ducked in the bush back to the truck checking myself for blood. Luckily found none.
I couldn't call it in ( no cell service there) and was ready to shoot the guy but it never came to that.My gun was in the truck unloaded. When I yelled and alerted them to my presence , they (2 of them) drove over to me and my friends truck. They opened the door and beer cans and bottles fell out and there where about 4 guns on the front seat. Drunk as skunks , 9 o'clock on a Sunday morning. The guy thought I was a moose crossing the road.
Total idiots like that can end it for you in a second.
I'm going on another trip there in a few weeks. Last year , an elderly couple's RV was found burnt out at a site 30 clicks north of there. We had camped near there while this happened. A month later I got a call from the police asking if we've seen anyone suspicious there as they had our name from camp records. We had not , and even stopped in at that campsite on the way back.The RV must have been near there but not found yet.
That was a year ago and they never found that nice,old couple. That campsite their RV was in was NOT they're destination. It was about 25 clicks off their route down a very isolated road , very difficult to navigate with a big unit.
The site we stay in is a public campground surrounded by thousands of acres of wilderness. When I go for hikes in that wilderness , I am always armed. Still no guarantee nothing bad can't happen.
We can't carry handguns here ( I wish) , but my 870 loaded with 000 makes me feel a lot safer.
I heard about 3-4 shots whizzing past my head. I ducked in the bush back to the truck checking myself for blood. Luckily found none.
I couldn't call it in ( no cell service there) and was ready to shoot the guy but it never came to that.My gun was in the truck unloaded. When I yelled and alerted them to my presence , they (2 of them) drove over to me and my friends truck. They opened the door and beer cans and bottles fell out and there where about 4 guns on the front seat. Drunk as skunks , 9 o'clock on a Sunday morning. The guy thought I was a moose crossing the road.
Total idiots like that can end it for you in a second.
I'm going on another trip there in a few weeks. Last year , an elderly couple's RV was found burnt out at a site 30 clicks north of there. We had camped near there while this happened. A month later I got a call from the police asking if we've seen anyone suspicious there as they had our name from camp records. We had not , and even stopped in at that campsite on the way back.The RV must have been near there but not found yet.
That was a year ago and they never found that nice,old couple. That campsite their RV was in was NOT they're destination. It was about 25 clicks off their route down a very isolated road , very difficult to navigate with a big unit.
The site we stay in is a public campground surrounded by thousands of acres of wilderness. When I go for hikes in that wilderness , I am always armed. Still no guarantee nothing bad can't happen.
We can't carry handguns here ( I wish) , but my 870 loaded with 000 makes me feel a lot safer.
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not in states that have the castle law sir. if you shoot someone and its justified your protected from civil suits also
just one more reason to love Indiana I do a lot of fishing after the sun goes down. One night I was out with my boy downtown, fishing the river from a little dock. A few people had come down to see what we were doing, no problem. One guy comes down, starts talking to my son (age 12 at the time) and ignoring me. At first he kept his distance, nothing to worry about. A few seconds later he started getting closer, asking more personal questions about school and hobbies were. Started to creep me out. At that point I told my son to put the gear away and we were leaving. The guy was blocking our way back. When I was ready to go I moved my jacket back and he caught site of the Buck 119 hanging from my belt. He decided that it was also time for him to go. We watched each other all the way back to my car. The whole thing only took a couple of minutes for him to get really close and personal.
Hint: If you want to be friendly, talk to the parent first then the child.
Hint: If you want to be friendly, talk to the parent first then the child.
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Dude.... Seriously? By reading your story you over assessed the situation horribly. I don't know where y'all are from but I live In South Jersey and I run into creeps like this ALL THE TIME!
Firstly if any one at any time gives you the creeps then you need to tell them so. This usually gets them off your case. Secondly, you seemed to have worked yourself into a frenzy. Weather this guy was a waked out vet or a random lunatic, makes no difference. They are both equally dangerous! Make yourself look intimidating! It's totally natural to spread your shoulders to make it seem as though you are bigger!
Ok... So.... Be cool first, if threatened? Intimidate your opponent, protect yourself at all times! If they come after you? Hit them with a rock and eat them!
Firstly if any one at any time gives you the creeps then you need to tell them so. This usually gets them off your case. Secondly, you seemed to have worked yourself into a frenzy. Weather this guy was a waked out vet or a random lunatic, makes no difference. They are both equally dangerous! Make yourself look intimidating! It's totally natural to spread your shoulders to make it seem as though you are bigger!
Ok... So.... Be cool first, if threatened? Intimidate your opponent, protect yourself at all times! If they come after you? Hit them with a rock and eat them!
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The only thing I would have done difft, and maybe you did but when you were doing the casual conversation I would have asked the guy his full name, where he was from and what he was doing there.
A lot of times if you pin people down like that they are less likely to try something
A lot of times if you pin people down like that they are less likely to try something
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So you think he should have continued the climb when a guy has already cut one of his ropes?
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not in states that have the castle law sir. if you shoot someone and its justified your protected from civil suits also
Not sure about this law but as far as the name goes does it involve being in your home for it to apply? Also, you're getting arrested until there's enough evidence for you to be released. Cops don't show up to a scene where you've shot and killed someone, talk a bit, and then let you go on your way. If you shoot and kill someone you should expect to be put into handcuffs.
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There's already been one cop on this thread debunking your statement.
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It is certainly possible/probable that in some jurisdictions they have policies that entail handcuffing (detaining) those involved in shootings no matter their innocence. BUT I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that that being arrested after justifiably shooting someone is not without a doubt putting you in handcuffs or jail. Think about convenience store owners shooting robbers. You think if I show up to one of those scenes and watch that footage that I'm gonna put the owner in cuffs or take them directly to jail? OF course not. I'd say of the homicides that end up being justifiable (which in all reality doesn't happen that much, or at least as much as it should) its about a 50/50 split as far as getting handcuffed, and treated like an arrestee. Most are transported to the detective division and interviewed so as to get their recorded statement, then released by that time because a DA has refused to charge them.
Love this post
I've encountered some creeps while hiking, but am most cautious during hunting season. In my experience there are few moments in the outdoors more tense than confronting poachers with high powered rifles or coon hunters in the middle of the night, even when armed. Fortunately, it has never come to any harm for me and self defense shootings are pretty rare in Kentucky given they probably have the most liberal castle laws in the country. I think the law itself is a great deterrant for brazen behavior both in the woods and for any aspiring thieves in the state. I have definitely noticed a drop in hunter trespassers since that law was implemented, and nighttime break-ins are almost unheard of.
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Spent many years in Southern AZ, four wheeling, camping, hiking, exploring.
Pack a side arm always.
Can't tell you how many shady characters would pull up, out of nowhere, stop, squint, and keep driving.
I think they saw the side arms and then did some risk assessment. We didn't have our hands on the guns, or say anything, nor act in a threatening way.
They looked at us, we looked at them, they looked at the side arms, and they departed.
Pack a side arm always.
Can't tell you how many shady characters would pull up, out of nowhere, stop, squint, and keep driving.
I think they saw the side arms and then did some risk assessment. We didn't have our hands on the guns, or say anything, nor act in a threatening way.
They looked at us, we looked at them, they looked at the side arms, and they departed.
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Or... you totally read those situations wrong.
I'm not attacking you, bud... but you got me thinking and that is scarey.
It is fairly easy for me to make a claim that I thwarted a possible encounter by exuding confidence or aggressiveness or the fact that having a sidearm made the shady characters think twice about messin with me..... but unless you actually sat down and discussed it with them, how do you know any of that factored in? or if they were even as shady as you thought they were? Folks sharing actual encounters with concrete evidence backing there actions hold more water with me than any preconceived notion that someone has prevented countless incidents with a rocksteady glare or the flash of a holstered pistol. You may have simply succeeded in presented yourself as one of those shady types.
It makes me think of my highschool days and all the girls I approached thinking they were giving me all the right signals... :grumpy::thumbdn:
Anyway, just personal thoughts
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Or... you totally read those situations wrong.
I'm not attacking you, bud... but you got me thinking and that is scarey.
It is fairly easy for me to make a claim that I thwarted a possible encounter by exuding confidence or aggressiveness or the fact that having a sidearm made the shady characters think twice about messin with me..... but unless you actually sat down and discussed it with them, how do you know any of that factored in? or if they were even as shady as you thought they were? Folks sharing actual encounters with concrete evidence backing there actions hold more water with me than any preconceived notion that someone has prevented countless incidents with a rocksteady glare or the flash of a holstered pistol. You may have simply succeeded in presented yourself as one of those shady types.
It makes me think of my highschool days and all the girls I approached thinking they were giving me all the right signals... :grumpy::thumbdn:
Anyway, just personal thoughts
Rick
notes from the females of the species that i'm friend with:
do not approach someone in a manner that makes THEM feel threatened. it doesn't matter what your intent is, it's how the person being approached treats it - they're opinion is the one that matters. so, as the examples i hear:
example 1) you meet the cute girl, you don't want her "getting away", and you follow her alone, to an elevator, and make your pitch there - bad. she can't get away, can't seek help, it's polite or fight time... she'll get off at the next floor, and you've just blown it forever as a creepy stalker...
example 2) you're driving down the road, and you see a cute girl, and you pull up in front of her and jump out and start walking to her, and see if maybe she needs a ride, or wants to go get dinner. pinning her between you and where she was headed. especially not a good thing to do while at night in a not terribly busy area...
in some of the examples above, including the OP... sneaking up on someone and scoping them out... getting within their comfort zone (let's call it 25 feet to 5 feet), talking to them while scoping other things out, singling out a person/child esp female... following them. continuing to engage them in conversation when it's likely clear they have no interest... this is how you hunt
in a city, or in the great outdoors. one (or more) people with no other obvious purpose, wandering around the woods, chasing after people they don't know isn't exactly what i would call normal by any means. not everyone is out to get you, but there are types that do...
in general, putting someone in a position where it's fight or flight, is something to consider when interacting with people.
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So, throwing a snowball in her face is bad?.... where were you in highschool, bud... I coulda used this advice.
I do know that women find my butt and waistline attractive.... I once passed through this group of cute girls and said "hey ladies"
. They were shy face to face but as I walked away I could hear them whispering to eachother, "What and ass.... Yeah, what a waist."...................... so I got that going for me.:thumbup:Rick
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So, throwing a snowball in her face is bad?.... where were you in highschool, bud... I coulda used this advice.
I do know that women find my butt and waistline attractive.... I once passed through this group of cute girls and said "hey ladies"
Rick
baby got back? i'm sure there's a video on youtube
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Depends on the state. The class of law commonly known as 'castle doctrine' usually protects you from criminal prosecution if you use force in self defense. Some states also extend that protection to civil liability, so if someone attacks you and you have to hurt them in self defense, they (or their relatives) cannot come back and sue you. Also, some states extend these protections to anywhere you might be, not necessarily in your home or car.
Not all states have castle protection laws. Also, some states don't have any one law you could call 'castle protection' but instead have a series of laws on the books that, taken together, essentially give you those protections.
As always, it's good to know the local laws if you're concerned about self-defense issues. And, yes, you practically need to be a damn lawyer to figure it all out.