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ptgdvc said:
GEEZZ!!!

I have changed my mind. I am now in favor of optimal exclusive elitism.

I am founding the North American Modern Damascus and Carbon Steel Bowie & Fighter Association of Bronxville, New York.

Or NAMDACSBAFAOBNY for short.

The voting membership is permanently limited to ONE member (ME). Unlimited associate memberships are available for $100 per annum. Twenty charter lifetime associate memberships are available for $500 each. There will be NO formal meetings, shows, newletters, websites or obligations, whatsoever. I accept PayPal. ;)

P
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LOL.......did you actually expect that this group would agree on anything right out of the gate?:p With that said, the folks in here eventually agreed on the design for the forum bowie and it turned out great, so I am sure that, once the dust settles and the blood is mopped up, there will be a plan in place for this organization that will give it a reasonable chance for success.:thumbup:
 
ptgdvc said:
GEEZZ!!!

I have changed my mind. I am now in favor of optimal exclusive elitism.

I am founding the North American Modern Damascus and Carbon Steel Bowie & Fighter Association of Bronxville, New York.

Or NAMDACSBAFAOBNY for short.

The voting membership is permanently limited to ONE member (ME). Unlimited associate memberships are available for $100 per annum. Twenty charter lifetime associate memberships are available for $500 each. There will be NO formal meetings, shows, newletters, websites or obligations, whatsoever. I accept PayPal. ;)

P
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Dude.......can you even fit that name on the back of a T-shirt?:D
 
Joe,

I am awarding you a free Annual Membership.

I will also consider giving a free Annual Membership to anyone who requests one during the next 48 hours.

P
 
Mike Lovett strikes again - what a hoot. This is post 11.

Starkman1 said:
Uh oh.......forged blade or custom knife? I think there is a difference. Forged blade would eliminate stock removal knives, thus eliminating most of the tactical stuff. Personally, that is fine with me.
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Anyone sees an insult in it?
 
I will also consider giving a free Annual Membership to anyone who requests one during the next 48 hours.
P
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I want one and while we're at it...can you grand me the right to start an European chapter:D

But seriously why all this arguing and name calling (Mike.....do behave). I own forged and stock removal knives and the only thing I'm interested in, as many more here I guess, is gaining knowledge, good relationships and such and I think that a collector's association (whatever the name and it's mission statement) can help me with that. If that means that the focus is on forged blades I'm all for it....we can add new chapters later if need be. And maybe an European chapter in the future????

Marcel
 
I think this thread is starting to take a dump.

There's ABSolutely:D nothing wrong with starting an ABS fan club (not that we haven't already tuned BF's Custom Knife Forum into that already) go ahead and call it an association if you choose to. I'll tell you right now, I think the forged knife quality by some of these guy's is beyond compare.....in spite of the rust factor. :D

Kevin, you began in your first post highlighting the fact that you had been discussing the need for a knife collectors association and that the only participants you have had during these discussions were forged collectors. I read that to mean that you'd like another type of custom collector's point of view, keying on the term "collector".

I honestly didn't think that you intended to have an association for forged only discussion.

I really thought you meant that you wanted other types of custom collectors' ideas about a custom knife collector's organization. You are only interested in forged production because that's what you collect as well as some other's here, which is alright.:thumbup:

In retrospect, I should have realized the true theme and intention of the thread, not based on the title or opening statement, based on your sig line......"If it ain't been beat with a hammer, I don't want it.":D

You have a fantastic collection of knives that anyone would envy. If you start a forged only fan club/association, I'm certain it would be enjoyable....Doggone Kevin, you have enough forged knives to be your own one man association. You don't need us! :D
 
Don Hanson III said:
Joe, the blade show is put on by Blade Magazine. It has 4 sections of tables (approx, 150 tables per section) which are:

1 Hand Made
2 Guild
3 ABS
4 Current/Antique Production

The booths around the show room are: production knives, accessories, handle materials, etc.

I would bet that the majority is hand make knives.
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Don,

My thanks for the clarification... I was probably projecting into my thoughts more of my experience with the OKCA show in Eugene, as I've gone there many years in a row and actually stay for the three days... As I drove out to Atlanta this year, I was only able to stay for part of the Friday showing and Saturday, so I was in no way as familiar with the actual spread and as to who actually threw the show. I appreciate the correction... And hope to maybe be able to do it again next year and reintroduce myself! :D

However, I still feel, in a slightly smaller way, thanks to RogerP, that an inclusive group would have a better chance of long term survival.

But, after reading Roger's last few posts, I am beginning to see that maybe a "Custom", however it may be defined, Collectors Club may be a totally legitimate, and worthwhile entity...

Now, I think I'll just go back to reading and keep my yapper shut! :D
 
Don Hanson III said:
When I was a 'folder only' maker, it bothered me that the ABS was just interested in fixed blades. But I woke up one day and realized, the ABS IS a Forged Fixed Blade Organization and a very Successful one at that.
I don't see this as "a mistake the ABS has made".....It just is what it is.

That ABS has a few issues but focusing on forged fixed blades only is not one of them.
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My thoughts exactly Don. Though some might not agree with some of it's policies, I don't see how anyone could not agree that it's extremely successful as an organization.
 
RogerP said:
Hey Lovett,

Ever heard of the Antique Bowie Knife Association? You can find them here:

http://www.antiquebowieknife.com/

Know what their focus is? Can you guess from the title? If not, let me help you out:

"The Antique Bowie Knife Association of America was formed April 5, 1975 by 19 collectors who enjoyed sharing their passion for Antique Bowie Knives. The name was changed a short time later to "Antique Bowie Knife Association". Since then, the ABKA has grown into a world-wide organization that is "Dedicated to the collecting, study, and preservation of Antique Bowie Knives". "

Roger
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I bet you don't have to own an antique bowie to join either.
 
Marcel54 said:
I want one and while we're at it...can you grand me the right to start an European chapter:D

But seriously why all this arguing and name calling (Mike.....do behave). I own forged and stock removal knives and the only thing I'm interested in, as many more here I guess, is gaining knowledge, good relationships and such and I think that a collector's association (whatever the name and it's mission statement) can help me with that. If that means that the focus is on forged blades I'm all for it....we can add new chapters later if need be. And maybe an European chapter in the future????

Marcel
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Well said Marcel. :thumbup:
That's where I'm coming from.

It's not like we are going to have to defend in court what type of knives our association focuses on.
Or ask potential members to present affidavits to attest to what knives are in there collections before being allowed to join.
 
Here's a few ideas as to what a collector's association may accomplish. Please give comments and add as you see fit.

• To increase awareness and acceptance of custom knives and the collecting of such as a respected and appreciated art form.

• To create a worldwide united and organized group of custom knife collectors, makers and dealers to assist in getting corporate, media and art community support for the betterment of the industry.

• To seek out and interact with related groups and organizations in attempt to create new interest and to help in recruiting new custom knife collectors.

• To educate and mentor new custom knife collectors and makers.

• To form a network of custom knife makers and collectors to promote the industry and support one another.

• To create ways in which for custom knife collectors to better market and connect with other collectors in regard to buying/selling/trading their knives on the secondary market?

• To create more open dialog between customs collectors and makers in regard to education, knife design, knife construction and sound business practices.

• To possibly create an industry wide data base to track maker’s knives as they change hands from collector to collector.

• To create general minimum quality standards for of custom knives and best business practices for use as guidelines for custom knife makers, collectors and dealers.

• To possibly act as intermediaries and mediators in disputes involving custom knife makers, collectors and dealers.

• To create a universally recognized standard for grading condition of custom knives offered for sale on the secondary market by collectors and dealers.
 
I really don't understand that there is any negativity going on here!
Kevin has an idea that he would like to implement and asked for interst/input.He seems like a guy that will do his best to get something of this nature going.If you have ideas or concerns about how it should take shape,by all means contact him and discuss it rationally and also lay out what it is you can do to make it something that you,too,would like to be involved in,and even get off the ground.Obviously this will take more than one person to get off the ground,and as I said before,the more varied the interests and expertise of those at the helm(so to speak)the more varied the organization can be.
He's gonna need help,and I doubt he will turn away assistance from someone whose interests are knives,just made in a different manner than that of what he collects.
Even if it turns out that he starts a forged knife collector's association,I can't see how that in any way slights or denegrates any other style of manufacture.
This is a good thing,isn't that obvious?!
In my collection I have folders,fixed blades,automatics,forged,and stock removal.I am a collector of knives,and I would be interested in being a member of some sort of collector group that focuses on knives.I will be following this with interest!

Rob Lindquist
 
Starkman1 said:
Uh oh.......forged blade or custom knife? I think there is a difference. Forged blade would eliminate stock removal knives, thus eliminating most of the tactical stuff. Personally, that is fine with me.
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Joss said:
Mike Lovett strikes again - what a hoot. This is post 11.



Anyone sees an insult in it?
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Joss,
Certainly not intended as an insult.....just my preference.
 
There's only one person reading an insult into that - and it isn't Joss. ;) Hint - it's the same person that thinks preferring one type of knife to another is "arrogant and elitist" and feels that a collectors association which focusses on one type of knife is somehow equivalent to racial and religious prejudice. I think Joss was drawing attention to the fact that there was NO insult to be found in your post.

Roger
 
I've given much thought to this for some time now. I have talked to makers and collectors alike.I think it is time our industry had something like this. I will put forth the effort on any level I can to help. It will be good for us all as makers and good for us all that collect.
It is not something that will be organized and charted up in a week nor will you see the results of its efforts in a week. This is something that can start out small if need be but really has potential to grow to encompass a large area of our industry. It will take patience and efforts by a lot of people but it can and will be done.
 
joeshredd said:
Don,

My thanks for the clarification... I was probably projecting into my thoughts more of my experience with the OKCA show in Eugene, as I've gone there many years in a row and actually stay for the three days... As I drove out to Atlanta this year, I was only able to stay for part of the Friday showing and Saturday, so I was in no way as familiar with the actual spread and as to who actually threw the show. I appreciate the correction... And hope to maybe be able to do it again next year and reintroduce myself! :D

However, I still feel, in a slightly smaller way, thanks to RogerP, that an inclusive group would have a better chance of long term survival.

But, after reading Roger's last few posts, I am beginning to see that maybe a "Custom", however it may be defined, Collectors Club may be a totally legitimate, and worthwhile entity...

Now, I think I'll just go back to reading and keep my yapper shut! :D
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Joe, No reason to keep your yapper shut, if everyone shut their yapper, we wouldn't have a forum here :D

I just wanted to set the record straight about the Blade Show. I look forward to seeing you there next year :)
 
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