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I don't have a preference on color, I care more about durability. Black, gray, green, copper, it's all good. I do have a GH 2.0 that was sold as green and it's gray think of sandblasted Ti.

Edit: also, if it will help matters, I am willing to pay for the knife in full. I'd even be willing to pay for a 2nd one in full if someone backed out or if it meant that we could kick this pig.
 
I guess it's not possible to add the option of keeping the less durable green or opting for the more durable gray? (i.e. making some of the selected green in the Type II for those who wanted it and making some in the Type III for those who preferred the more durable coating). I only ask because we had options in the past with regards to blade shape and mechanism.

Color is not a big issue with me; I would prefer the more durable, regardless of color.
 
Maybe Hark or Neuron will chime in soon about a more durable greenish color. I am thinking that OD Green in Type 3 is completely possible. I can't imagine Type 3 OD Green is very rare due to it's rampant usage in the Military, that and Black in Type 3. But in all honesty, Type 2 is still very durable stuff guys. Like I said, my old flashlight in Type 2 is going strong after a few years.

Eventually, when it starts to show some wear, it will be getting a Duracoat or something anyways. Maybe even a Xena Warrior Princess theme.

Anyways, have we decided on a Hrc for the S90V? I am thinking a goal of around 60-61 Hrc Hrc would be superb.

Impact Toughness
CPM S90V offers higher impact toughness (Charpy C-Notch) than 440C at comparable hardnesses.
Hardness (1) Impact Toughness (2)

HRC
Heat
Treatment
ft-lbs
(Joules)
CPM S90V 58 (A) 19 (26)
440C 58 (B) 16 (22)
D2 59 (C) 22 (30)

It's tougher than 440C at comparable hardness, anyone think 60 is too hard? I am not too concerned with chipping in this steel as I won't be doing a ton on batoning cinder blocks in twain. I don't know as I don't have a ton of experience with S90V. Even at 58 Hrc, S90V has tons of wear resistance, but it would be nice to get our moneys worth and I think 60-61 Hrc would do that.

Thoughts?
 
mctrinket said:
I guess it's not possible to add the option of keeping the less durable green or opting for the more durable gray? (i.e. making some of the selected green in the Type II for those who wanted it and making some in the Type III for those who preferred the more durable coating). I only ask because we had options in the past with regards to blade shape and mechanism.

Color is not a big issue with me; I would prefer the more durable, regardless of color.
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The handle anodizing is the one part of the HTM GH manufacturing process that isn't done in-house at HTM. This is already a small batch of knives to be sending off for anodizing even if they're all the same color, so splitting it up further by offering that as an option wouldn't be economical (and may not even be possible, depending on what the minimum batch size is for the anodizing guys).
 
I like the Gamble Green, but would not riot if it were the more durable grey. I think the green is better. Confused? Me too. As far as hardness - back in the day when most 440C was 56-59 Hrc, I had my hand ground 440C blades heat treated to 60-61 Hrc. They were a bit harder to sharpen, but wow did they hold an edge. Many deer were dressed without touching up the edge. Never had a problem with chipping, even after hacking through a lot of tough pelvis bone - but this was 440C, not S90V, which is the superior steel. I vote for heat treating to 60-61 Hrc. Check the great article referenced by TriviaMonster for anecdotal support.
 
She said Friday when I paid, If not due to her dealing with payroll, I would get it today. I checked spam and nothing. I'll call tomorrow.
 
Just a heads up, Stephanie is out of town until Wednesday for a personal reason. Not sure who will be taking over payments. I was told mine would be ran when she gets back on Wednesday.
 
TriviaMonster said:
Maybe Hark or Neuron will chime in soon about a more durable greenish color. I am thinking that OD Green in Type 3 is completely possible. I can't imagine Type 3 OD Green is very rare due to it's rampant usage in the Military, that and Black in Type 3. But in all honesty, Type 2 is still very durable stuff guys. Like I said, my old flashlight in Type 2 is going strong after a few years.

Eventually, when it starts to show some wear, it will be getting a Duracoat or something anyways. Maybe even a Xena Warrior Princess theme.

Anyways, have we decided on a Hrc for the S90V? I am thinking a goal of around 60-61 Hrc Hrc would be superb.

Impact Toughness
CPM S90V offers higher impact toughness (Charpy C-Notch) than 440C at comparable hardnesses.
Hardness (1) Impact Toughness (2)

HRC
Heat
Treatment
ft-lbs
(Joules)
CPM S90V 58 (A) 19 (26)
440C 58 (B) 16 (22)
D2 59 (C) 22 (30)

It's tougher than 440C at comparable hardness, anyone think 60 is too hard? I am not too concerned with chipping in this steel as I won't be doing a ton on batoning cinder blocks in twain. I don't know as I don't have a ton of experience with S90V. Even at 58 Hrc, S90V has tons of wear resistance, but it would be nice to get our moneys worth and I think 60-61 Hrc would do that.

Thoughts?
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By today's standards for S90V, HRC~60 would be on the low side. The article being referenced is 6 years old. Phil Wilson who knows as much as anyone about it now is doing 61~62. See ref provided in 2011. To get our best performance out of the S90V the target requested by neuron of HRC61 is good! Darrel of course with his own in house heat treatment capabilities will have the final say.
Best...
Ref from Blade Forums:

Early this year, Stuart said he had been thinking about doing another one, and of course, I got very excited. As we began discussing particulars, I remembered that a few years ago my good friend Phil Wilson offered to heat treat a CPM blade for me if I ever needed one, and in my mind this was a perfect opportunity to call upon the “Wizard of CPM” for that blade. Stuart agreed to give S90V a whirl if Phil would do the heat treat, and the project took off.

I just received the knife from Stuart and this is the closest I can imagine to my mental ideal for the pattern. It is simply amazing to hold my actual “idea” in my hand, rendered in desert ironwood burl and CPM S90V, heat treated by Phil to 61-62 HRC:

On top of my original sketch:
 
Hi,
Stephanie has a Grandmother coming to her end.
She is out today with family who have been called in to see her.
Please email me direct for information if you did not get your receipt.
Also please check your spam box.
I will make sure it is taken care of in the next day.
Also if you are calling today about placing your order we will get back to you tomorrow.
Thanks for your thought and patients.
 
No worries Darrel. Just wanted to make sure. I lost my Grandfather this past November, and world stopped. God Bless her and her family!
 
Ray Allen said:
By today's standards for S90V, HRC~60 would be on the low side. The article being referenced is 6 years old. Phil Wilson who knows as much as anyone about it now is doing 61~62. See ref provided in 2011. To get our best performance out of the S90V the target requested by neuron of HRC61 is good! Darrel of course with his own in house heat treatment capabilities will have the final say.
Best...
Ref from Blade Forums:

Early this year, Stuart said he had been thinking about doing another one, and of course, I got very excited. As we began discussing particulars, I remembered that a few years ago my good friend Phil Wilson offered to heat treat a CPM blade for me if I ever needed one, and in my mind this was a perfect opportunity to call upon the “Wizard of CPM” for that blade. Stuart agreed to give S90V a whirl if Phil would do the heat treat, and the project took off.

I just received the knife from Stuart and this is the closest I can imagine to my mental ideal for the pattern. It is simply amazing to hold my actual “idea” in my hand, rendered in desert ironwood burl and CPM S90V, heat treated by Phil to 61-62 HRC:

On top of my original sketch:
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Agreed on the 61-62 is a great hardness for this steel.
Heat treater require a two point spread on the tolerance.
Brad at Peters will hold them on the high side I am sure.
It will be great!
 
Darrel,

Thanks for the update... in the grand scheme of things, even though the forum knife will be a totally kewlio and possibly the closest thing I'll ever have to my grail knife, it pales in comparison to family needs. I for one say that you all do what you need to do and get family taken care, 'cause at the end of day the world IS round and we'll all get eventually there... it just may take a little bit longer.

/J.R.
 
Does anyone know if the Torpedo blades will be the new GH3 style? In my Nov. 2012 issue of Tactical Knives they have an ad from TrueNorthKnives showing a new looking Torpedo blade on pg. 65 that appears to have a section cut out of the top of the blade giving the tip a kind of false rise then dropping off, then raising again at the thump ramp. A dip in the top of the blade if you will. It doesn't appear that way in the picture at TNK though:

HTM_10496_1_800.jpg



I guess what I am getting at, is that I !@#$%^& love the blade they show in the magazine. It looks incredible, I mean just absolutely crazy cool. The spine of the blade looks like this Spartan Harsey Model II shown in this picture:

spartan-harsey-model-ii-sb16degrnltn.jpg
 
That looks effing sick. (GH picture) I might have to change my blade to that now is that's what our torpedo will look like
 
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