Emberlite stainless steal or ti.

Something to point out.. Titanium oxide that forums a layer on titanium alloys has a very high reflective index for near infrared better then Al actually...
Titanium heat conductivity is also far lower then steels due to its lower density so you will lose less heat though the walls..

I dont actually know how this works in real world testing.. maybe someone with both stoves(im thinking of buying one after this thread) would like to do a controlled test maybe using alcohol stove as the burner to get consistent heat and same pot with same temp water... Be interesting to see if the Ti version actually generates noticeable improvement in heating.
 
Thanks for posting some great pics Pinnah! My wife and son are indoor hermits and yet (for some reason I can't fathom) have been bugging me to get a dog. I've been bugging them to get outside and go hiking, camping etc. I showed them your pics and suggested that if we did enough of the first 3 pics, then a FLFF (four legged furry friend) as shown in your 4th pic, would be a valid consideration. They are now busy discussing their options!

To keep on topic, I have a first run (Stainless) Emberlite stove and have enjoyed testing its abilities. The toughest task for it having been a #10 cast iron frying pan and a pound of bacon. The stove performed perfectly and the bacon was enjoyed by all! If my wife and son get outdoors, I plan on buying another full-size stove or 2, and probably a Mini as well.

Regards,
Dave
 
There have been times when I wanted a second "burner" myself, even though I solo. I pamper myself with a big breakfast sometimes and have to eat it as courses. Hashbrown pattie, bacon or sausage, biscuits and eggs and of course coffee.
 
I needed to bring this to the top. I just ordered my Emberlit finally and I'm going to need the reference.
Thanks guys.
 
Well I just got mine . Haven't used it yet but it's a well built wood burner . I got the stainless because of the price difference . Plus the weight Doesn't really matters to me just because I'm not going out for days long and where I'll be using it . My friend got one he got the stainless . I told him he needed the TI just because he's out shore fishing a lot and that's where he is going to use his .
 
I've said it before but it bears repeating. In a half a century of outdoors adventuring, this is the best piece of kit I have ever owned. Bar none.
 
Question about the small fireboxes

How easy it it to keep them fed with wood to maintain a heating a liter of water?

I have been using a small foldable firebox
I have not palyed with it much, but I was having trouble contantly feeding the fire with twigs to keep up a very hot flame
So it took a long time for the water to come to a boil

Thanks
 
Well, once a first fire is established with tender and twigs, and larger sticks are fed through the feed door, it is no problem at all. Dependent on the type of wood avaialble. As I have mentioned, I have cooked multi-course meals on mine. First up was boiling a liter of water to make a pot of coffee, then a fry pan to make hash brown potatoes, then fry sausage or bacon, then quick bake biscuits, followed by eggs. It was not tedious to keep the fire going with mostly dry sticks, round as found and unsplit. Just boiling water to rehydrate a freeze dried meal took only one loading once the fire was established. This was with relatively wet sticks after three days of rain. Of course I started with prepared (store bought) fire starter sticks, wax impregnated sawdust. One could use resinous wood for this I suppose. Time to boil depends on the dampness of the wood and the BTUs available from the wood used. Hickory here burns hottest, oak next. Relative softwoods are what I usually find along my river bank camps and having a lower BTU, takes a bit longer to get a boil unless I add a chunk of BBQ grille hickory from my kit. I have no idea what woods you have available there or their BTU rateings.

All fireboxes are not the same however. The designer of this one went through many prototypes to get the "chimney effect" that makes for a hot, efficient burn. Most I have seen are simply fire containers without controlled air intake and heat exhaust. It does make a difference. With the EMberlit, it is not at all like a pot stand on an open fire.

Most of what you see in this picture is steam from the damp wood.

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This picture was before the fire was really established as there was not yet a small coal and ash bed, and the larger sticks had not filled the feed door. When this is done, there is very little smoke and flame emitted from the opening, and the rising heat causes a suction through the round air holes to feed the fire. Like a proper carburator in a car.
 
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neeman said:
Question about the small fireboxes

How easy it it to keep them fed with wood to maintain a heating a liter of water?

I have been using a small foldable firebox
I have not palyed with it much, but I was having trouble contantly feeding the fire with twigs to keep up a very hot flame
So it took a long time for the water to come to a boil

Thanks
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This came up yesterday when speaking with a friend. I have the SS full-sized Emberlit, and was thinking about getting in on the intro deal for the Ti Fireant. I asked a buddy who has a lot of stoves what he thought and he said he's found he only uses the full-sized version because the smaller ones require more constant feeding and it was a PITA. Sounds reasonable. YMMV. Good luck.
 
The recent kickstarted campaign for the Emberlit Fireant really shows just how highly regarded these stoves are. I'm glad I got in on the kickstarted campaign as soon as it popped up (I think I was #2) because it got funded in just after 6 1/2 hrs!

I love my first gen full size ti stove. It works great and is perfect function over form. I'm looking forward to the Fireant for another option if with groups or to stow in a small kitchen kit for solo hikes.

https://www.kickstarter.com/project...-fuel-backpacking-stove?ref=recently_launched

editted to add: I reread this and realized this sounds like a sales pitch. I'm not at all affiliated with Emberlite in any way. Just really impressed with their stove.
 
neeman said:
Codger
thanks

Is this information about the mini stoves or full size stoves?
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I don't have the mini or the new fireant, but they are designed to work the same. The fireant I believe is intended to be better suited out of the box for use with alcohol burners, not needing adaptation like the larger stoves. But it is still supposed to work like it's larger older brothers.
 
Codger_64 said:
I've said it before but it bears repeating. In a half a century of outdoors adventuring, this is the best piece of kit I have ever owned. Bar none.
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That is really saying something.:thumbup:
 
Picked up my Emberlite Ti stove today and gave it a quick whirl out in the yard. All I can say is wow, the thing just flat works! I had it assembled and boiling a pan full of water in about 10 minutes. Very impressed! Think I might go back the kickstarter for the fireant.
 
I worked with my Firebox Nano
It works best when it is stacked with small short pencil diameter twigs
the twigs burn to charcoal
no flame
it acts as a brazier more than a stove
I feed it from the top
it works well this way
 
I made my own, much larger, out of aluminum sheeting (with lots of perforations to reduce weight) If I'm going to take the trouble to make and maintain a fire, it's not going to be one that only heats a soda can full of food or water. :-)
 
Let's try to keep on topic please.

Quintum, let's get together with that aluminium stove of yours and my old stainless steel Emberlite. I'll show you what a real stove can do by cooking a pound of bacon in a #10 cast iron pan. Then you can try yours. After it has been crushed, we can see if the Emberlite will get hot enough to melt your stove down for recycling. :)
 
16VGTIDave said:
...we can see if the Emberlite will get hot enough to melt your stove down for recycling. :)
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Play nice Dave! :D FYI, using hickory chunks for fuel with my Bemco oven on top, I got the oven up to 750 degrees on the oven gauge, just barely below the melt point of the aluminum oven. Had I not removed it and let the stove cool down before proceeding with my baking, the oven would indeed have melted. I took this picture when it had cooled to 425 for bakeing.

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