ESEE Folder built somehwere besides USA

Would you buy an ESEE Folder not built in the USA

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R.A.T. said:
Wasn't jumping on you, brother. Just didn't want people to think this was a debate of USA vs. Foreign. Main thing we're trying to do here is get honest feedback from our customers and knife users because it helps us to shape our company better in the future. I know this type of question can get heated because there is a lot of pride and loyalty to one's own country, as it should be. Trust me, I'm a USA Made guy all the way too, but I also know we want a high quality folder to be made pretty soon, so there's just not a lot of options on the table for us. We are most likely going to go with Lion Steel but again, we want feedback from everyone. Especially those who may disagree with us.
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Nope, I understand completely. There’s a time and place for that discussion, just not this thread. You’re just looking for yes or no and why we feel that way. Fair enough.

Off to the exchange to sell my ESEE blades….. :D
 
I made up my mind and voted yes. When the Izula Folder comes out I'll buy it regardless of where it's made.

ESEE = Customer Confidence. If ESEE tells me Lionsteel (or anyone else) is the correct manufacturer for a knife then I believe them.
 
R.A.T. said:
Now, with that said, this violates our philosophy of trying to keep all of our goods USA made. Problem is there are not a lot of quality makers in the USA willing to take on another folder project. .QUOTE]

I do not see how this would be a violation of your philosophy.
You have tried to have the item made in the USA to you standards and to our expectations. Is this not your philosophy!

I have bought many knives that have taken a long time to be produced and with big price tags.. So let me say that I will put my money (auu pin, auu keyboard) were my mouth is. This is the level of trust I have with ESEE knives and the business morals of the people who are behind ESEE Knives.

Ron
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I am so psyched for this knife! I think it's great first of all that this will be the ESEE to replace my RAT-1, and secondly I think that there is no problem with the knife being made outside the states as long as quality control is good and the steel tempering is good.
I'm expecting great things Jeff, and I'm more than sure that you guys will deliver!
 
Given the quality of your products, your warranty, and your integrity - Yes.
 
I greatly prefer something I buy to be made in the US. But, I understand that it's very hard to find a shop in the US that will make a nice production folder. If you make it in Italy I'm happy to buy it, if you make it in the US I'm more happy to buy it. No matter where the 3 folder is made, I think I'll end up buying one.
 
Yes,I would buy it if it were made overseas.

Would I prefer it be made here?Yes

Would I be willing to pay extra for it to be made here?Yes
 
Yeah, I would buy the Lite Machete too even though it's made in Colombia. To me quality is more important than origin.

The only thing is that I think it may be going against your guys' stated manufacturing philosophy.

eseeknives.com said:
We believe the men and women of the USA can still make the best product at a competitive price. A product designed and made in the USA for a price the average person can afford. We believe that an objective, intelligent person can design a product that is reliable, practical and affordable and that it can be produced through skill and hard work on our own shores and then sold to the user. ESEE Knives believes we can do this and succeed despite the biased and skewed trading practices of some foreign countries who rely on government incentives, sweat shop labor forces, corporate welfare, and other unfair trade practices in order to thwart the true free market of Capitalism. We believe that the market (and ultimately the end user) will be the final say in whose product has worth and integrity, thus staying power in the market even as other products that have no merit or quality disappear. We stake our hearts, minds and livelihood on this premise. We are free market Capitalists and in the true sense of the term, we do not ask for any advantage in the marketplace. Our product and company will succeed or fail on its own merits.
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In a way, going with LionSteel almost feels like not living up to the statement in bold. It would be nice to have it made in America... However, I don't think that the decision goes against the portion underlined which in my view is the most important piece.

I feel a little disappointed an American company wasn't found to manufacture it, but it wouldn't prevent me from purchasing it or regarding it as the same quality as other ESEE knives, just maybe would leave me feeling a little less proud. However, I think that choosing quality over patriotism or pride does more to honor the American spirit; so what if the knife was made in Italy, the company you bought it from had it made there because they were doing the best job, and you bought it because it was the best made. In the end, Americans still know the best and demand the best, so it doesn't matter if it's from Italy to me as long as it doesn't undercut any of the principles of quality and/or free trade. In the end I think compromising quality just to have "USA" stamped on a tool goes against those principles. I want to know my tool it the best by the actions its makers take to pursue quality, not pretend its the best because of three magic letters.
 
I voted no. The reason I voted no is the same reason I haven't pulled the trigger on the machete. It would be the very first knife I have ever bought made outside the US. I don't know if I come across as some snob, and trust me there is a laundry list of items made overseas that I do purchase. The problem is, I can't control everything. Almost 100% of my sons athletic gear he has is made outside the US. I can't control that. My knives however, that I made a decision to control. I'm 41 years old and have owned a lot of knives, all American made.
 
Country of origin is irrelevant to me. I've made that clear before. Quality and value for my money spent will ultimately determine whether I purchase this knife or not. I'm sure the quality will be high. Hopefully the price will not.
 
I am for things being made in the US but I will buy it if it is made in Italy. I would not buy it if it was made in China. I buy Japanese and Taiwanese made Spydercos but, not Chinese so I'm in!
 
I find it disappointing that it will not be produced here. Given that you stated it will be made in Italy, at the end of the day I would probably still buy it. If I were to find another folder that was within my price range and met everything I was looking for, then I would probably lean that way.
I find post #110 to be of particular relevance to the conversation (except the Colombia part, the Condor is made in El Salvador, IIRC).

ETA: Vote was "yes"
 
Voted no.. I just picked up my first 2 esee blades a couple weeks ago (izzy 2 and 5). One of the things that attracted me to them was the response of this forum and being made in the U.S. There is something that just feels right about buying quality USA products. It gives me the most pride of ownership. I don’t mind spending more on a product made here. It really bums me out that outsourcing is how companies have to remain viable. Next thing you know my Redwings will be made in Taiwan. :barf:
 
I would greatly prefer to buy an ESEE folder made in the US. This is not to say that I wouldn't buy one made elsewhere but I would certainly be willing to wait a year or two or three to get an ESEE folder if it meant it would be US made. I know we've all been chomping at the bit for a folder but I can't help but think that somewhere in this country there is someone up to the task. I'm sure you guys have searched high and low but like I said, if it took a little longer I'm pretty sure I'd survive.
 
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