ESEE Folder built somehwere besides USA

Would you buy an ESEE Folder not built in the USA

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  • No

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We haven't exhausted all opportunities but gettin' close. With that said, we are holding firm that the Izula folder will be built in the USA. Even if it gets built one at a time and cost a 1000 bucks each! The Izula just has to be made here. Not sure why, but it does :) That's the folder we want Rowen to make and no one else.
 
We have produced knives for Spyderco, CRKT, Remington, Gerber, AG Russel and others US brands.

there you go... just like much of the other things we've bought that are stamped 'made in the usa'. people give that too much credit. dig a little deeper and you'll probably find that this is the case in a lot of businesses. that's just the way it is. i suppose it's not ideal, but it's really not important.

as a consumer, i am looking for quality. if someone is doing it better (or even just as good), they should be rewarded. if we can't keep up, we need to learn from it and work harder. i don't buy into this 'buy everything american' thing. i love our country, but we have been lazy and negligent in a lot of areas where our foreign competition is excelling. it's not their fault, it's ours.

i'm not going to support an american company that produces substandard products because they are based in america. when i pay my hard earned money for something, i want it to work and last.

jeff and mike, i really admire you guys for the quality product you put out and the fact that you care about us enough to ask our opinions and respect them. many other companies don't have the respect you all do for their customer base and would never even consider letting people know that their american made items aren't all american as we'd like to believe. i know that you are just as disappointed to consider a foreign knife as some of the people that are voting no, but i imagine that part of the reason you came to this point is because it is more important to you to produce a quality product than an american product. i know it's more of a logistics problem, but let's face it, you want the product to be made well and you aren't going to go to an american company that can't handle your specifications.

i'm not trying to sway anyone's opinion or stir anything up, but i've been thinking about this a lot lately... i recently was harassed heavily by my family for not buying an american car that would nickel and dime me to death and last still last half the time as the vehicle i chose. trust me, i didn't take it lightly and seriously considered an american vehicle first.

quality is important. we need to step up here and stop pouting that people who are doing it better are getting paid instead of us. aren't we capitalists? it's all about competition. being rewarded regardless of what we do... what was that called again...?

make the knife wherever you want. i'll be watching the exchange. :rolleyes:
 
Guntram, again we appreciate the post but let's not make this a debate of principles. We simply want to know the reason someone would or wouldn't without implying anyone is wrong in their belief. In all honesty I probably agree more with the no answers than I do the yes answers but we REALLY want this folder on the market. I'm simply tired of ESEE not having a folder because that's what i carry every day and it's always someone else's So, maybe it's time to take the plunge.
 
sorry... i'm feeling a little cynical right now.


i know you guys will do what's best for us and you. like i said, make it where you want... or have to... just make it. :)
 
..I'm simply tired of ESEE not having a folder because that's what i carry every day and it's always someone else's So, maybe it's time to take the plunge.

A-friggin-men. There's some other manufacturers that just aren't taking that plunge and disappointing customers. Good to see you guys doin' that!
 
I will just echo what alot of others have said in this thread.

I don't care where a knife is made. As long as it's a quality blade(and I know it will be since it's made by ESEE) and ESEE maintains the same quality they always have, then I will continue buying their products.


Plus I don't view italy made in the same category as taiwan or china. I think an italian made knife would be awesome.
 
Personally, based on reputation alone I would choose Lion Steel before most US manufacturers to the end of getting a final product of the highest quality. Spyderco and Kershaw are the only companies I buy folders from anymore but I feel that Lion Steel is likely perfect for this project.
 
man this is great! a ESEE folder made in Pakistan,it will remind me of all the knives I bought as a kid and even won a few at carnivals.IN A HEART BEAT!!!!
 
there you go... just like much of the other things we've bought that are stamped 'made in the usa'. people give that too much credit. dig a little deeper and you'll probably find that this is the case in a lot of businesses. that's just the way it is. i suppose it's not ideal, but it's really not important.

I can assure you that the knives made by Lion that were sold by those companies weren't marked "Made in USA".
 
I can assure you that the knives made by Lion that were sold by those companies weren't marked "Made in USA".

And you'd be right. Lion Steel is firm about putting the country of origin on their blade, whereas some other overseas makers will mark your knife made in the USA. So, I know there are "USA Made" folders out there that are made overseas but they didn't come from Lion. But again that is not what this thread is about. We are looking for everyone's true feelings on this, regardless of peer pressure.
 
You know Robert Glock didn't have a darn thing to do with guns when the Austrian Government asked him to design one to compete for their military's pistol. I honestly do not believe you have exhausted your manufacturing options in the US. If you have specs and blueprints, email me at djacobs28056@yahoo.com and I'll talk to some local people I know They're in metal manufacturing, just not knife making. I also have a high up contact at a large knife maker I can contact to see if they'd be intrested (Buck).
 
I vote no.
As a casual collector, I do much more browsing than buying. When I do drop the dough, I want to be as satisfied as possible with my purchase, and that means buying local.

There are 3 or 4 knives I really want (including the HEST folder), but I'd rather save my limited funds for products made in my country.

If my wallet were fatter, or I were not an American, I'm sure I would think differently.
 
You know Robert Glock didn't have a darn thing to do with guns when the Austrian Government asked him to design one to compete for their military's pistol. I honestly do not believe you have exhausted your manufacturing options in the US. If you have specs and blueprints, email me at djacobs28056@yahoo.com and I'll talk to some local people I know They're in metal manufacturing, just not knife making. I also have a high up contact at a large knife maker I can contact to see if they'd be intrested (Buck).

You've got a deal. You work in Autocad? The only stipulations we have is quality must be above and beyond. I'm interested in a quote. I can get drawings to you tomorrow. How fast can I get a quote with lead times for 2000 pieces?
 
You know Robert Glock didn't have a darn thing to do with guns when the Austrian Government asked him to design one to compete for their military's pistol. I honestly do not believe you have exhausted your manufacturing options in the US. If you have specs and blueprints, email me at djacobs28056@yahoo.com and I'll talk to some local people I know They're in metal manufacturing, just not knife making. I also have a high up contact at a large knife maker I can contact to see if they'd be intrested (Buck).

I'd buy an ESEE-3 Folder made by Lion Steel, but I'm not too sure that I'd buy one made by a US company that doesn't have a track record for making knives. I'd at least hold back to see the reviews by other buyers.
 
I regrettably voted yes. I hate buying non american, but will do it, as long as its not china, mexico, or anyother 3rd world country (if at all possible). As long as you guys make sure its made in some country that I cant find on a map and it takes 2gallons of flim to pronounce the name, I will buy it.
 
You know Robert Glock didn't have a darn thing to do with guns when the Austrian Government asked him to design one to compete for their military's pistol. I honestly do not believe you have exhausted your manufacturing options in the US. If you have specs and blueprints, email me at djacobs28056@yahoo.com and I'll talk to some local people I know They're in metal manufacturing, just not knife making. I also have a high up contact at a large knife maker I can contact to see if they'd be intrested (Buck).

You've got mail with a DXF and DWG file enclosed of the ESEE-3 Folder. I need pricing and delivery ASAP. Require production prototypes and will happily pay for them. Quality must be exceptional. No compromises to fit the way someone's tooling is setup, so that means no changes in the drawing. Lock mating surfaces and finished must be exceptional. if you can find someone that does this and doesn't screw around getting a price, delivery and prototype to us, then we will do business. Not much to ask. Seriously. I've been waiting on someone to post the offer you just made.
 
I can assure you that the knives made by Lion that were sold by those companies weren't marked "Made in USA".

i wasn't trying to say anything against those companies. just saying that not everything that says it's made in america is actually 100% made in america and there are a lot of things i think we are ignorant to here. ideals can make us blind to reality. but hey, i'm no different or i wouldn't be frustrated with this type of thing. ;)

anyway, i'm done commenting on this... i'm not trying to cause trouble. i voted yes and i believe i've stated why. :)
 
Bottom line is we will indeed put our money where our mouth is. I was hoping someone would pipe up and say "I know a guy" and we now have that, so let's see what happens. Bottom line is we will not compromise on quality, regardless of where it's made or who makes it.
 
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