Extremely limited in my choice of blades

how about a rat izula

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I'm pretty sure fixed blades are right out in the UK. Otherwise you would hear about the guys who live there carrying them, which you never do. Fixed blades of any length are restricted in many areas in the US, where folding, locking blades are perfectly acceptable. A 3" fixed blade is almost massively superior as a weapon to any folding knife, locking or no.
Any self-respecting anti-knife legislator would know this.
 
MORIMOTOM said:
and you may want to reconsider buying from the blade shop.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=443023
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Thanks for reminding me. This is just a sample of the problems people have had. But don't worry, Jaymz, once you decide what would work for you, we'll find you a reliable dealer.

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moonwilson said:
I'm pretty sure fixed blades are right out in the UK. Otherwise you would hear about the guys who live there carrying them, which you never do. Fixed blades of any length are restricted in many areas in the US, where folding, locking blades are perfectly acceptable. A 3" fixed blade is almost massively superior as a weapon to any folding knife, locking or no.
Any self-respecting anti-knife legislator would know this.
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Yeah it's complicated.
 
The UKPK is really a nice knife. It has a classic Spyderco handle and blade shape, but no lock. It does snap firmly into place when opened. By pushing on the back of the blade, you "break' that firm placement and the blade will close, but not on your finger: the choil made up of the curve of the front of the handle and the matching curve on the blade will protect you. It also has a stop halfway closed to keep it from flopping onto your finger when closing it.

The new Urban is very similar and comes in two colors: a light green with a spearpoint blade like the UKPK and orange with a wharnecliff blade.
 
I'm wondering whether the laws against a locking mechanism on a folder implies a fixed blade may not be legal? The nice thing about the Spyderco Slipits too is that they are one handed slip joints which is not really common. Here are pictures of my Orange Wharncliff Urban. The Urban is also available in Foliage Green with a leaf blade:

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They are great knives and in fact, a lot of us who live where locking folders are legal are buying the Spyderco Slipits.
 
Jaymz said:
So does the spyderco UK click into place when it's fully open?
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It does make a "click" sound. However no more than some of the other slip joints that I have used in the past. It has a very (very) strong spring. Its blade is right up at the legal limit in the UK 2 15/16". A law man w/out a ruler on him will likely call it 3". There are other Spyderco slip joints with smaller blades DKPK 2 11/16" and the Urban 2 9/16". The latter two are clearly under the 3" mark even when "eye balling" it.

Hope it helps,
STICF
 
tjsulli790 said:
Yes it does, it's doesn't freely dangle in the handle. Here is a video that will let you see how it functions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opTrDhpz8SM
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Looks good. Well forgive me for stating the obvious, but it clicks, rather than locks into place. So it's looking like the way to go.

I need to catch up on the jargon! So what other blades are there out there that click into place but don't lock?
 
Jaymz, I used to have a friend that was an Inspector with Scotland Yard and he was quite an avid collector. Perhaps it would be worthwhile to contact the local Constabulary and ask them what is allowed to be carried and used as a tool.

Just a thought.
 
After reading this thread I must say, good grief. And I thought our laws over here were untenable.

I'm guessing that with such laws, your city must be the safest around, eh?
 
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riffraff said:
After reading this thread I must say, good grief. And I thought our laws over here were untenable.

I guessing that with such laws, your city must be the safest around, eh?
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Yeah Glasgow is a great holiday hot spot.;)
 
Jaymz said:
Looks good. Well forgive me for stating the obvious, but it clicks, rather than locks into place. So it's looking like the way to go.

I need to catch up on the jargon! So what other blades are there out there that click into place but don't lock?
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Yea I was referring to the actual click of the slip joint back spring, not any sort of locking mechanism. Hopefully they won't give you a problem about a knife that clicks too.
 
A.P.F. said:
Jaymz, I used to have a friend that was an Inspector with Scotland Yard and he was quite an avid collector. Perhaps it would be worthwhile to contact the local Constabulary and ask them what is allowed to be carried and used as a tool.

Just a thought.
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Yeah cheers, I might just do that.
 
Well thanks for the advice everyone.

Looks like I'll have to take my chances with the spyderco.

What other knives are there apart for the spyderco that don't lock and are 3 inches or under? See if I can get some to choose from.
 
moonwilson said:
I'm pretty sure fixed blades are right out in the UK. Otherwise you would hear about the guys who live there carrying them, which you never do. Fixed blades of any length are restricted in many areas in the US, where folding, locking blades are perfectly acceptable. A 3" fixed blade is almost massively superior as a weapon to any folding knife, locking or no.
Any self-respecting anti-knife legislator would know this.
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to confirm, fixed blades are illegal for EDC in the UK without "legaly valid reason. you can own them, but not carry them without said reason.


A.P.F. said:
Jaymz, I used to have a friend that was an Inspector with Scotland Yard and he was quite an avid collector. Perhaps it would be worthwhile to contact the local Constabulary and ask them what is allowed to be carried and used as a tool.

Just a thought.
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as I understand it, more or less any knife (except autos an balisongs) can theoreticaly be carried, if you have the aforementioned "leagaly valid reason" the law as it applies in this case (i.e. public areas, as opposed to the other offence it covers, which is on school grounds) the reasons are: as part of a job (which is also, I believe held to include legitimate sport of hobby), religious grounds (shikism), and as part of national dress (so if you where wearing a kilt, you can carry a skean dugh). self defence is not a legaly valid reason, and if a knife, even when compying with the "non-locking sub 3inch folder" rule, is carried for self defence (and the officer has grounds to believe this) it becomes an offensive weapon.

riffraff said:
After reading this thread I must say, good grief. And I thought our laws over here were untenable.

I guessing that with such laws, your city must be the safest around, eh?
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glasgow? all that can be said about that is it's safer than london.
 
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