Fehrman knives

I was wondering why you want a talon hole? For a handguard?:confused:
The other reason people want one is for a 'lashing point to make a spear'.

I am an advocate of the theory that the last thing you want to do with your knife is lash it to a pole and risk losing it. You can make a spear WITH your knife. Yeah, it might be flimsy, but you can throw it and not care if it breaks. As far as 'protection' goes, it ain't gonna help against anything that can get you anyway. You'll spend all your time lashing/unlashing the thing unless you can carry a knife in your sheath with a pole attached! Beleive me, if you really want to lash this knife to a stick, you can attach it without a front hole.

OK, enough rant.

It might be nice if Eric offerd some different handles eventually, but I hope he never starts a knife of the month club. Designs either work or they don't.
You can purchase any knife Eric makes at any time.:) What Jerry Busse does works for him. He created that market. More power to him and his buyers. I would hate to see Eric follow that path.

Chad Ward did a compairison test. Did you read it?

I don’t want to see a another C**** Stamp test. He and his ilk are the laughingstock of knifemakers. Professional knifemakers do plenty of reasonable tests on their knives. They release models when they are ‘tough enough’. How did men ever survive before all these 'super steels'? Oh yea, skill and common sense. The humble mora has probably helped save more lives than any other blade in history.
 
Haven't clicked that link yet, as I'm at work. What you say about the knife of the month club makes sense. I guess I'm just too attentive to aesthetics. I want my products to work well, stand up, be guaranteed and also have a sense of style. I will sacrifice style for all of the rest, though.

As for the talon hole, I'd like to be able to have a d-guard on the knife for those times when the hands become excessively slippery. That is also the reason I've had all my glocks stippled by www.boresightsolutions.com. (though I don't chop/cut with my Glocks :D)
 
If you are a Glock man then you understand the strange beauty of no-nonsense tools.

Did you get the coated or satin finish?

Don’t worry, I think you’ll like the appearance of your LC. It’s got kind of a Special Forces type look. It’s all business!

The design of the handle really helps you ‘hold on’. In addition to the index finger notch, it has the most intricately shaped handle I’ve ever seen. Once you start looking at it you’ll see what I mean. They are far from ‘slabs’.

Linen micarta is pretty tacky anyway. If you look at it under a microscope, it has lots of loose threads sticking out of the matrix. This is normal. It really helps you grip when wet.

Polymer handles on any firearm are much more slippery when wet. Stippling is a good idea for the ‘black plastic’. It needs it.

I really don’t think you’ll have any problems using that LC handle when bloody, muddy, sweaty or wet.
 
I'mGatMan! said:
Bear,

Thanks much for the information. I am anxious to get the LC in my hands. It's not that I'm a huge aesthetist, it's simply that to my unknowing eyes, and after everything I've read about the two steels, the only apparent difference to me between the Busse's and the Fehrman's is the visual quality of the slabs. I like the Fehrman's shape better than any Busse's I've seen, and while I wish I could get a talon hole on my LC (Eric gave me a resounding NO on that) the only other thing I'd like is maybe a set of slabs that stands out a bit more.

If the knives are as good as Ron Hood, Brian_T and so many others say, I have no doubt that Fehrman could create themselves a niche similar to what Busse has created by issuing one-offs or special series' of knives. The people who use these things out in the woods seem to love them, but one has to agree, they are a bit utilitarian-looking.

Maybe others don't really share my though, but I bet there are a few that do. And Ham, go ahead and buy one. :thumbup::D

I'd like to get a Busse enthusiasts take on this knife.

BTW...why isn't there more a Fehrman presence on these boards?

J
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Here is a Busse enthusiasts take. Fehrman has an excellent design and fit and finish are top level. I have never owned one so I cannot state how they perform next to Busses. However, Fehrman uses cpm3V which is in my opinion the best of all the cpm steels and the only cpm steel worthy of a large blade. It is also very similar in it's largest microconstituents to INFI and johannings mod A8. All three of these steels along with Bohlers K329 are based off of chipper type steels which are some of the toughest steels available.

Although I would be wary of some joe blow HT'ng 3V or any quality steel, Fehrman seems to have it down right as do many custom makers. Hell, one custom maker even forges it succesfully.

In the end as far as big knives go, if Busse's INFI did not exist, I would have nothing but Customs in 3V and Fehrmans, most likely. I have owned custom 3V knives and they have been excellent.

These steels are way tougher than most people will ever need anyway.

It is amazing how one company(CPM) can make a steel that I love(3V) and a steel that I despise(S30V).
 
Bearcut, Cobalt...thanks for the info:

Bear,

Actually, the no-nonsense look IS kinda one of the reasons I went with the Black LC, however something about the Cupidganza pictures has me wanting to add a little flavor to the knife, as I plan on owning it a VERY long time. I do agree with you, though--the LC, coupled with my customized 19 or 21sf will make for a nice outdoor package.

As for the handles, I'm VERY anxious to see them after your description. I love good design elements, and am excited to see what a real FB feels like in my hands. I've just gotten in to knives, and never thought I'd spend this much on one. My first was a Trident SOG folder, which is a decent little knife. My second was an EKI CQC-8 which is impressive to me. Now this Fehrman has me giddy.

Cobalt,

I'm glad to hear from a discerning hog on this. It's not that I undervalue the opinions of others, but more that the Busse crowd obviously thinks very highly of Infi. To hear a hog speak highly of the Fehrmans' CPM3V and heat-treat definitely makes me confident that this will be a good knife, as I've seen some Busse torture tests and those things are animals.
 
Consider this: when you get a Busse, Scrapyard, SwampRat, Fehrman, Ranger and a host of customs made of 3V or other forged steels you will likely never need another knife. Most of us have many because we want to, not because we need to.

As for Cliff's testing. His testing has always been very good, however, he gets to technical for most people to understand.

He also does things to knives that most would never consider.

What he did to a Busse Basic 7 was down right criminal, but hey it's his knife. It took him 2 years to break that Basic 7 and only after he turned it into a toothpic did it fail the continuous hammering he gave it. Here is a picture of his Basic7 alongside a fresh basic7, can you tell the difference?:D

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He has been pounding on his original Battlemistress since 1999 and it has not broken yet, and he has not been kind to it. He even threw it into a woodchipper once to stop the woodchipper.

here is a pic when it was new:
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and here it is years later, looking like a cheap machete
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Awhile back I saw a thread where I linked to some videos of a guy in a hockey mask trying to destroy an FBM I think, and those videos were pretty hardcore. I agree that most users will never expose their knives to anything like that, but it is good to know that if it ever came down to it, I could. :cool:
 
BTW...I should have said that I am a Glock man out of necessity. I would rather carry a 1911, but I'm not interested in all the fidgeting necessary to get them running smoothly and reliably. Sold my Kimber, and had to go over to the darkside. Utilitarian reliability works for me, though. I know I don't hafta worry about my gun going bang when I pull the trigger.
 
I'mGatMan! said:
BTW...I should have said that I am a Glock man out of necessity. I would rather carry a 1911, but I'm not interested in all the fidgeting necessary to get them running smoothly and reliably. Sold my Kimber, and had to go over to the darkside. Utilitarian reliability works for me, though. I know I don't hafta worry about my gun going bang when I pull the trigger.
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I say carry what you want...my Colt 1911 has never failed. One jam due to a screwed up casing from a reload out of 3,000 rounds fired to this date. Many of which were reloads, Winchester and Blazer among many that I've tested out. Even shoots hollows smoothly. When I pull the trigger it goes boom. Thing shoots more accurately than I can.:p:thumbup: I like 1911's for the same reason I like Busse's. No worries. If you get a gun that's got quality parts from a good company you shouldn't have any problems. I've shot Colt's, Springfields and Les Baers with no problems. Really want a Thunder Ranch!!! I heard Kimber uses a lot of MIM parts (Metal Injection Molding) or something along those lines...can't remember for certain. It's arguable whether they're as good as forged parts....for me, I'll stick with forged just for piece of mind. For the money, you can't do too much better than a Springfield Armory...though if you're in a state where you can buy a Colt Series 70 repro DO IT!!! Sucks...can't here in Cali because of the drop test.:thumbdn:
 
All major production manufacturers of 1911's use MIM slide stops, msh's, hammers, etc. Regardless of what people say, Kimber makes quality guns, though their tolerances are MUCH tighter than any Colt I've held, hence they're more accurate, but also more picky at the begining.

My problem with 1911's isn't that they can't be reliable, but that they take too much tinkering to keep running smoothly and clean/lubricated (I live in Miami where humidity is beastly). I can wear a gun for a few hours, take it off, sit it on my nightstand, come back later and see rust. Couple that with the ridiculous amount of magazine manufacturers, many of whom aren't building to original spec (no dimples, ala Wilson mags), and you end up having to become an afficionado to own a 1911. I don't want to become a collecter/afficionado, I just want reliable, simple tools to protect myself and my loved ones. Plus, with what I sold my Kimber package for, I was able to pick up 2 Glocks with nightsights and 2 holsters. Kinda like Busse and Fehrman...A First Strike and a Thru Hiker (with Kydex and a Firesteel), or an FFBM with cardboard?

And btw...my Springer (which I love) just went back to SA. This is the 3rd time, first since it was REPLACED last year. When it comes back, I'm giving it to my father, who's been salivating over it since I bought it.

So anyway, back to the topic at hand. I am really looking forward to the Fehrman, and am now just looking into options for a sheath, since I hear the Fehrman kydex can get a bit loose. I want something I can rig to my Maxpedition for handle-down carry, as well as something I can wear on my hip. Haven't decided on leather/kydex yet, but I will keep looking.

J
 
I'mGatMan! said:
All major production manufacturers of 1911's use MIM slide stops, msh's, hammers, etc. Regardless of what people say, Kimber makes quality guns, though their tolerances are MUCH tighter than any Colt I've held, hence they're more accurate, but also more picky at the begining.

My problem with 1911's isn't that they can't be reliable, but that they take too much tinkering to keep running smoothly and clean/lubricated (I live in Miami where humidity is beastly). I can wear a gun for a few hours, take it off, sit it on my nightstand, come back later and see rust. Couple that with the ridiculous amount of magazine manufacturers, many of whom aren't building to original spec (no dimples, ala Wilson mags), and you end up having to become an afficionado to own a 1911. I don't want to become a collecter/afficionado, I just want reliable, simple tools to protect myself and my loved ones. Plus, with what I sold my Kimber package for, I was able to pick up 2 Glocks with nightsights and 2 holsters. Kinda like Busse and Fehrman...A First Strike and a Thru Hiker (with Kydex and a Firesteel), or an FFBM with cardboard?

And btw...my Springer (which I love) just went back to SA. This is the 3rd time, first since it was REPLACED last year. When it comes back, I'm giving it to my father, who's been salivating over it since I bought it.

So anyway, back to the topic at hand. I am really looking forward to the Fehrman, and am now just looking into options for a sheath, since I hear the Fehrman kydex can get a bit loose. I want something I can rig to my Maxpedition for handle-down carry, as well as something I can wear on my hip. Haven't decided on leather/kydex yet, but I will keep looking.

J
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if you want great Kydex, look into buybrown, Okuden, and Normark. I have sheaths from all three of these guys and they are excellent.

If you want leather, Kenny Rowe and Leatherman are my favorites.

However if your kydex is a bit loose, just heat it up a bit and it should mold right to the kife for a tighter fit.
 
sodak said:
Now THAT made me laugh out loud! Make that 2 of us!!! :D :thumbup:
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it's funny, until you start seeing how all these knifemakers have gone from great steels like BG42, VG10, ats34, D2 and such to "it". :D
 
Ain't that the truth. I have one knife in BG 42, a custom Buck 110. I love it, but would like to try some more factory offerings in it. Oh well...
 
yup, this is why I like spyderco, Sal doesn't sit back, he continually tries new steels on his quest for the best.
 
Okay...so now that the thread's been thoroughly hijacked, anyone else out there with experience owning/using Fehrman knives?
 
Ok, back to Fehrman. I have a Peacemaker, and a First Strike. I love them both. The FS is a great large knife, good chopper, and holds it's edge very well. I have found CPM 3V to be very tough. The PM is probably the best designed knife of it's size I've ever held. The ergonomics are superb. I have medium hands, so keep that in mind. The steel holds a great edge, and it's one of the few knives that I haven't had to thin the grind out on.
 
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