Fehrman knives

Deadhead Archer said:
I wanted to take the time to answer this for you, without flames. Hey, maybe someday you'll buy both!!

The length of time issue for Busse depends on where you are ordering from. Yes, if you order from www.bussecombat.com you will want weeks to months. However, if you go to www.bussecompanystore.com there is plenty of INFI in stock that could be in your hands in days. I get stuff from there in a 2 day turn-around. They currently have LE Fusion Battle Mistresses, Variant Steel Hearts, Game Wardens, Sus Scrofas (wharncliff; they have 6!! types available), and Scotch Dispensers in stock.

INFI may not be the newest steel, but it has a few other advantages to CMP3V such as impact resistance (rolling edges instead of chipping), lateral strength, and ease of sharpening. INFI may not beat other steels in one specific area but is designed to be an all-around high performance steel.

As far as their guarantee is concerned, I've seen Jerry offer to resharpen, regrind, rehandle, refinish, and replace blades at no cost if the user wasn't happy. Don't test INFI's resistance to a .50 caliber round to see if they will replace it; but otherwise your blade is guaranteed FOR LIFE.

You won't be dissatisfied with a knife from either company. There are a couple of uber-Hogs who posted in this thread out of interest of the quality and high performance of Fehrman blades. Someday I'd like to get a Fehrman myself -but somehow Jerry managed to get my credit card number...:eek:;):D
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Thanks for that other Busse page deadhead. Thats good to have and much appreciated I am fairly acquainted with the differences in steel between Busse & Fehrman, & am not preferential to either really based solely on metals. They no doubt both use great steels and make great knives.

I'd love to have at least one of each, ha. Don't really see why anyone would need to "flame" about this, though, I've seen it happen. There really isn't any reason for it.

Based on what Busse's store shows they have available at this time though, if Fehrman has what I want in stock, I'm going to go with them instead... this time around. Now if I can just get a response from them.... (if not, then maybe I will shortly have a Busse in hand).
 
From what I understand, Fehrman Tool and Die has a pretty aggressive e-mail filter.
I’ve sent e-mails to them, {nothing important}, and never gotten a response.

Conversely, a phone call will probably get you the owner himself. Try that with any other maker!

Availability, price, and year-round selection is partly why I bought a Fehrman instead of a Busse.

The warranty is the same for both brands.

Which one is ‘better’ is really moot. They both make great knives.
 
Both Busse and Fehrman make great knives. I really don't think one is better than the other. In deciding on what to get, quality and performance should not be a factor, just go on what looks good, what is available and what kind of size/ design will suit you. I have many busse knives and a fehrman first strike, I have a shadow scout on order and can't wait to get this one. The shadow scout looks like it will make a great all around knife.

If anyony has any experiance with the shadow scout, I would love to hear your thoughts on the knife?? Thanks, Nick.
 
I found the shadow scout to be excellent in terms of size, blade geometry and ergos...I am a bit leery of thick blades, as I prefer slicing ability over toughness, and this blade is excellent for slicing...mine came extremely sharp, after cutting up about 100 sq of carpet, it was still sharp but not able to slice paper.. a few passes on the sharpmaker took care of that... I really like the size and blade shape... very nice for an all around camp/survival knife... Looking to get one of the larger knives...Final Judgment or extreme Judgment.. any preferences on either of these two?
 
Thanks for the SC info mate. I can't wait to get mine. As for the FJ or EJ I would go with the FJ, I recon it would be a little more versitile and I have heard it is stronger. I don't have either, but I do have a First Strike and it is an awesome knife.
 
Does the aggressive e-mail filter mean they are uninterested in business from outside the USA? Because that's how us non-US residents communicate with dealers/manufacturers in the US.

I also tried them by mail and got no response. I am happy to say this is NOT typical of US dealers, who are normally superb at getting back.

I will try again as I really like that little one piece of theirs... it seems the more I like the knives the harder they are to lay hands on :rolleyes:

bearcut said:
From what I understand, Fehrman Tool and Die has a pretty aggressive e-mail filter.
I’ve sent e-mails to them, {nothing important}, and never gotten a response.

Conversely, a phone call will probably get you the owner himself. Try that with any other maker!

Availability, price, and year-round selection is partly why I bought a Fehrman instead of a Busse.

The warranty is the same for both brands.

Which one is ‘better’ is really moot. They both make great knives.
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In terms of quality, you're not going to go wrong with either Busse or Fehrman. Here are where the differences lie (in my opinion):

Fehrman (to my hands/eyes) has much better ergos. I found that I could VERY comfortably hold my Last Chance in a LOT of different grips. No-matter where I put my hand on the grip, the Fehrman just felt good. The knife was rock solid and built to take a beating. The black finish on the blade was even and consistent, and all around I was quite satisfied.

But then I held my Busse Badger Attack LE and I was enamored of that knife. The Busse just looks and feels superior in terms of fit and finish (and that's NOT to take anything away from Fehrman). Fehrman's are like Glocks, and the BATACLE is like a Les Baer or Nighthawk Custom. The Fehrman will handle any task you give it, but the Busse just takes it up a notch in terms of aesthetics. If you want a killer (pun intended) blade (that does look great) get a Fehrman. If you want a killer blade that looks awesome and will retain much of whatever value you spend getting it, get a Busse. You won't go wrong either way.

Now, about Fehrman's email issues: I've had to call twice. First time I spoke with Ron(?!--don't remember for sure) or somesuch, second time I spoke with Eric Fehrman. Both times they were informative and polite. Eric was willing to speak at length, and just a VERY nice guy. I know it sucks for you people who are outside of the country, but you may want to try emailing again and put FEHRMAN or KNIFE ORDER/QUESTION in the subject line. Hopefully Eric's got his filter set up to recognize stuff like that. I HAVE emailed and gotten responses, but you must be dillligent.

Good luck people. Fehrman's are great knives, and will own one or two again--as soon as I get the Busse's I'lm drooling over. : )

Jason
 
Thanks for the advice. I have signed up on the site and discovered that they ARE set up for international orders, bless their little hearts. I have sent another e-mail from my work address, just to find out what shipping method they use.

I was all over the Thru Hiker, but now the Peacemaker has caught my eye. Its a hot little blade for sure.

Anybody got any pics of this model and the sheath it comes with (kydex)? As in, pics of their own, not the website ones? In the hand would also be great.
 
I got this picture from Andy a week or so ago and thought you'd like to see what they do in their free time at Fehrman Knives. :)

FehrmanTest.jpg


I believe that's an Extreme Judgment that's been "tough-loved."

I'll try to get the full story from Andy and Eric on what sort of tests this knife has seen...


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Brian_T said:
I got this picture from Andy a week or so ago and thought you'd like to see what they do in their free time at Fehrman Knives. :)

FehrmanTest.jpg


I believe that's an Extreme Judgment that's been "tough-loved."

I'll try to get the full story from Andy and Eric on what sort of tests this knife has seen...


B
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Nice.
 
Just got off the phone with Andy. First of all, he's got 3V in stock so the 10-12 week delay is over. (Good for those of you who need knives, bad for your wallets and mine.)

Second, here's a brief list of what the Extreme Judgment went through prior to the picture:

  1. Chopped up that seasoned log you see
  2. Driven through a 55 gallon drum
  3. Chopped on Limestone

and it still cleanly shaved paper after. You can see the edge near the tip took some damage but the long straight section still looks completely intact.

I guess the guys in the shop are still testing the knife from time to time stabbing it into things or chopping with it and it still shaves paper.

Andy mentioned that they've got some video of the testing that they're going to get up on the website. I'm anxious to see that. :D

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Brian_T said:
Just got off the phone with Andy. First of all, he's got 3V in stock so the 10-12 week delay is over. (Good for those of you who need knives, bad for your wallets and mine.)

Second, here's a brief list of what the Extreme Judgment went through prior to the picture:

  1. Chopped up that seasoned log you see
  2. Driven through a 55 gallon drum
  3. Chopped on Limestone

and it still cleanly shaved paper after. You can see the edge near the tip took some damage but the long straight section still looks completely intact.

I guess the guys in the shop are still testing the knife from time to time stabbing it into things or chopping with it and it still shaves paper.

Andy mentioned that they've got some video of the testing that they're going to get up on the website. I'm anxious to see that. :D

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Thanks, homie. I appreciate that post and will be looking forward to some video. I can only help them to get some footage out there of people beating the hell out of Fehrman's knives. Matter of fact, just today over in the Busse forum I was having a discussion about Fehrman vs Busse...
 
Oh yeah? I'll have to go check out that thread.

I tried talking Andy into putting up weekly videos blog-style of the Fehrman guys beating this knife but don't think I really got a solid answer out of him one way or the other. (He's tricky like that sometimes.) :)

The finish on that Extreme Judgment, by the way, is fresh from the HT oven. I really, really like it and wonder if they couldn't offer it as an option for those of us who like the "Road Warrior" look on our knives.

B
 
I'm looking for a knife for use within military forces in different countries and climates. The knife will be used for any task that may occur in military service. I stumbled upon Fehrman knives. I like both Last Chance and Cold Fury (it's thickness and blade lenght I'm drawn to) and wonder which one should fit better for just military use.
I have read this thread and found info about LC, but nothing about Cold Fury.

Anyone who handled a Cold Fury?

And what's a differance between satin and black "finish"? Which one is to prefer?

Thanks,
//bluka94
 
Satin is the bare steel, with a satin sandpaper finish, 400 grit. The black is epoxy coated.
Black for rust resistance if you can't/dont want to oil your knife, satin is for easier cutting through dense materials.
 
Buffalohump said:
Thanks for the advice. I have signed up on the site and discovered that they ARE set up for international orders, bless their little hearts. I have sent another e-mail from my work address, just to find out what shipping method they use.

I was all over the Thru Hiker, but now the Peacemaker has caught my eye. Its a hot little blade for sure.

Anybody got any pics of this model and the sheath it comes with (kydex)? As in, pics of their own, not the website ones? In the hand would also be great.
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No in hand pics, sorry, but hope these help.

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q203/sodak_photos/p1010007.jpg
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q203/sodak_photos/p1010007-3.jpg
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q203/sodak_photos/p1010004.jpg
 
Alright! Thanks, bro!
And I noticed there is a "$40-difference" between these two finish, as well...
Why is that? "Bare"-steel (satin) is more good-looking?
 
bluka94 said:
I'm looking for a knife for use within military forces in different countries and climates. The knife will be used for any task that may occur in military service. I stumbled upon Fehrman knives. I like both Last Chance and Cold Fury (it's thickness and blade lenght I'm drawn to) and wonder which one should fit better for just military use.
I have read this thread and found info about LC, but nothing about Cold Fury.

Anyone who handled a Cold Fury?

And what's a differance between satin and black "finish"? Which one is to prefer?

Thanks,
//bluka94
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Bluka,

I've never held the Cold Fury, but I did own a Last Chance for a little while. The differences between these two knives really come down to preference and usage. The Cold Fury has a tanto blade, and to my knowledge these blades are designed primarily for fighting purposes. The angle of the blade tip makes it best for poking, stabbing. The tip on the last chance (I want to say it's a a drop point with an extreme, almost tanto-like, angle) is going to be better for all-around chores. The handle on the Cold Fury is straight, and again, probably more suited for fighting, as that's the function behind it's design aesthetic, however one would not be hindered in any way by the Last Chance's grip in a fighting situation. You can get so many different grips comfortably on that knife. You said that this knife will be an all-around user, and for that you should probably go with the Last Chance.

As for blade finishes, the satin blades have to be hand-sanded to look as shiny as they do, and this extra work adds more to the price. If you're going to be using it in a military environment, however, you may want to look into the black coating for a couple of reasons:

First, the black coating will make the knife more resistant to rust, as the only part of the blade vulnerable to the elements will be the actual edge.

Second, if you're going to be using it in combat, or similar situations, you may not want the possibility of light reflecting off of your satin blade, and potentially alerting people to your presence or location. The black coating will eliminate that shine, and at night, be invisible in your hand.

Just my .02. Good luck whichever you choose. You really can't go wrong with a Fehrman knife.

Oh, and you may want to look at other options for sheaths. I believe Rob Hummelbaugh at www.survivalsheathsystems.com has a Last Chance and can custom mold you a kydex liner for a spec-ops sheath for a few dollars more than what Fehrman charges. The Spec-Ops sheath will come jump-ready with a small pouch up front (for whatever gear you would want to carry with your knife) and loops so that you can attach your knife/sheath to webgear or molle packs.

If you need info on Rob's sheaths, he has a forum here in the makers section of BF, and you can also check his website. He usually is very responsive to emails, so don't hesitate to ask any questions.
 
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