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I cannot express how much I appreciate all of your well wishes. Will, a friend of ours had a dog with lymphoma (not sure which type), and he responded very well to the chemo and went into remission. So do not give up hope my friend.
 
MVM , I am so sorry to hear of your loss . Lucy Lu looked like she was such a sweet dog our sincerest and heart felt condolences to you and your family.
Kindest regards Mick and Family.
 
best wishes will

i cant imagine losing maximus...even though im not his favorite

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Very sorry to hear of your loss Mac. It is never easy and my thoughts are with you and yours.
 
So sorry to hear about your loss McVeyMac. There is a reason why we call them man's best friend.

Best to you and your family,

Tod
 
All, Lucy came from a long line of gladiator lion fighters and protectors. She fully exhibited these characteristics every day of her life with us. Especially when my wife would walk her in the woods. They went 5 miles every day in every weather. If you were a dog not of her pack exhibiting aggressive behavior, then you would immediately have a fight to the death on your hands, unless you backed down. Lucy would not differentiate between groundhogs, and black bears. If they were a threat to her pack (family), then they would have to die, at least in her eyes.

However, when people approached Lucy, they would be greeted with a wiggly butt, slobber and loads of kisses. What has been truly amazing to us all who knew her is this dichotomy within her that defined who she was. Phil, I know that Max exhibits some of this very same behavior as he comes from a similar lineage as Lucy, and Will, your boxer I know has some of these traits as well. What my wife is having the most difficult time with is that Lucy would have attacked in an instant any foe the moment that she sensed the threat, willingly and gladly giving her life to protect us, even if it were an insurmountable foe. So my wife. in kind, was equally committed to Lucy, and she feels so helpless that she was not able to protect her from this awful disease. And believe me it was not for lack of trying for the past decade. Our yard has been full of weeds for ever because we would not use chemicals to control them, we have always used natural foods to provide her nutrition, we have been exceedingly careful about everything that has gone into or touched her body. And now we feel that we have failed her. We know that this is not true, but we feel this way none the less.

About a decade and a half ago I was on a road trip with a co-worker of mine who was a huge dog lover, and we got into a conversation regarding animals, dogs and souls. We are both scientists, and we understand that there is much of this world that science cannot measure, and hence, has no opinion of. We both concluded that many people do have souls, even though we could not measure it, and we went on to define the soul as that part of us/life that is infinite. He communicated that he thought that we imparted part of our souls to the dogs that we loved. He came to this conclusion because we both felt that there was no evidence of souls in much of the animal kingdom, even in some examples of Homo sapiens. A part of me believes this to be true, as when Lucy died (and Onyx, and Maggie and a host of other past dogs in my life), a part of me and my wife died with her. I think that when we give this soul to our dogs, we have full use of it, and in fact it expands as that part of us resides with them. But then when they are gone, they take with them the soul/sprit that we have imparted to, and shared with, them. And it is this loss that defines the void, the pain and the death that we experience when they die. If in fact we have imparted part of our soul to Lucy, I am glad that she did not give it back when her body perished. I take comfort in the idea that a part of her life, our shared soul, has no end.

Michael, I know that there is no mention in scripture that dogs will be in Heaven. However, with the description of Heaven that does exist in scripture, I cannot imagine Heaven without dogs.

I want to express a big thank you to all for your well wishes during this difficult time. I wonder if there will be a Fiddleback Forge Sub-Forum in Heaven?
 
Man, I am really sorry about the loss of Lucy. She was a fighter without a doubt. Please pass on my best wishes to your wife and family. I will raise the Fiddleback beer tankard tonight to raise a toast to you brother, and your fourlegged friend Lucy. I am sure all the Fiddleback brothers will too. Take it easy this weekend, my families' thoughts are with you.
 
McVeyMac said:
About a decade and a half ago I was on a road trip with a co-worker of mine who was a huge dog lover, and we got into a conversation regarding animals, dogs and souls. We are both scientists, and we understand that there is much of this world that science cannot measure, and hence, has no opinion of. We both concluded that many people do have souls, even though we could not measure it, and we went on to define the soul as that part of us/life that is infinite. He communicated that he thought that we imparted part of our souls to the dogs that we loved. He came to this conclusion because we both felt that there was no evidence of souls in much of the animal kingdom, even in some examples of Homo sapiens. A part of me believes this to be true, as when Lucy died (and Onyx, and Maggie and a host of other past dogs in my life), a part of me and my wife died with her. I think that when we give this soul to our dogs, we have full use of it, and in fact it expands as that part of us resides with them. But then when they are gone, they take with them the soul/sprit that we have imparted to, and shared with, them. And it is this loss that defines the void, the pain and the death that we experience when they die. If in fact we have imparted part of our soul to Lucy, I am glad that she did not give it back when her body perished. I take comfort in the idea that a part of her life, our shared soul, has no end.
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Beautiful.

McVeyMac said:
Michael, I know that there is no mention in scripture that dogs will be in Heaven. However, with the description of Heaven that does exist in scripture, I cannot imagine Heaven without dogs.
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As I was reading the above, I was reminded of something in the Hebrew of the Old Testament. When God breathes God's breath/spirit into the first people, we are told they became "living beings" (nefesh). The word "nefesh" is what is behind the translation "soul" in a lot of English versions. The thing is, the animals (including dogs, despite not being named directly) are also created in the same way, and thus also become nefesh-es. So if you're a fan go the idea of souls (which is another debate for another time and place), an animal is a soul just as much as is a human (we're animals, too, of course).

End lesson. Resume prayers for peace in a troubled time.


Michael
 
RRaconteur said:
Beautiful.



As I was reading the above, I was reminded of something in the Hebrew of the Old Testament. When God breathes God's breath/spirit into the first people, we are told they became "living beings" (nefesh). The word "nefesh" is what is behind the translation "soul" in a lot of English versions. The thing is, the animals (including dogs, despite not being named directly) are also created in the same way, and thus also become nefesh-es. So if you're a fan go the idea of souls (which is another debate for another time and place), an animal is a soul just as much as is a human (we're animals, too, of course).

End lesson. Resume prayers for peace in a troubled time.


Michael
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“If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went.”


― Will Rogers
 
It's wonderful hearing about Lucy! I am sad for your and your family's loss! Such wonderful stories about her help spread her enjoyment to our Fiddleback family, thank you!

-Will
 
McVeyMac said:
About a decade and a half ago I was on a road trip with a co-worker of mine who was a huge dog lover, and we got into a conversation regarding animals, dogs and souls. We are both scientists, and we understand that there is much of this world that science cannot measure, and hence, has no opinion of. We both concluded that many people do have souls, even though we could not measure it, and we went on to define the soul as that part of us/life that is infinite. He communicated that he thought that we imparted part of our souls to the dogs that we loved. He came to this conclusion because we both felt that there was no evidence of souls in much of the animal kingdom, even in some examples of Homo sapiens. A part of me believes this to be true, as when Lucy died (and Onyx, and Maggie and a host of other past dogs in my life), a part of me and my wife died with her. I think that when we give this soul to our dogs, we have full use of it, and in fact it expands as that part of us resides with them. But then when they are gone, they take with them the soul/sprit that we have imparted to, and shared with, them. And it is this loss that defines the void, the pain and the death that we experience when they die. If in fact we have imparted part of our soul to Lucy, I am glad that she did not give it back when her body perished. I take comfort in the idea that a part of her life, our shared soul, has no end.

Seriously wonderful words man!
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"I open the screen door with my little paw and really don't know how to close it. When the screen is open, it lets in flys, spiders and all kinds of creepy crawlies. I feel shame, but only until I lay down and forget."

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What does your guilty dog do?
 
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My guilty dog decided to let me know that my wife forgot to take him out this morning, by peeing on the bed. With me in it....

Fun morning
 
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