Flipping from the exchange

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on_the_edge said:
I wish all flippers would come here and proclaim that they are flippers. Yet, most hide. That tells me that somewhere in the back of their minds, they know they what they are doing is at least distasteful and not what the majority here would find appealing. And yet, they can't seem to overcome the "need" to make more money. Sad...and pathetic.
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I think a lot of people just don’t want the “drama” so to speak. Sure I knew people who talk trash to me for showing up but it’s life. I was raised to stand up for who you are and what you do so it doesn’t bother me if people want to ignore or name call and so forth. Thin skin isn’t a grown up trait.
 
The thing I've seen lately is people posting a fast "take" then reading and realizing they may not be able to make a big profit then say oh I'll pass. That is some b.s. in my opinion.

I'm not sure there is a way to really police the flipping, but I can do my best on the occasion I sell and be a bit more discerning of who I choose to sell to.
 
JJ_Colt45 said:
The thing I've seen lately is people posting a fast "take" then reading and realizing they may not be able to make a big profit then say oh I'll pass. That is some b.s. in my opinion.

I'm not sure there is a way to really police the flipping, but I can do my best on the occasion I sell and be a bit more discerning of who I choose to sell to.
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Yea I got in trouble for withdrawing an offer to buy until I realized it was against the rules and hasn’t happened again. It wasn’t to do with flipping tho. I see it happen A LOT to actually.
 
Sbs1974 said:
I think a lot of people just don’t want the “drama” so to speak. Sure I knew people who talk trash to me for showing up but it’s life. I was raised to stand up for who you are and what you do so it doesn’t bother me if people want to ignore or name call and so forth. Thin skin isn’t a grown up trait.
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I don't think there is necessarily a lot of drama. There certainly is no drama in putting someone on ignore. No, I think flippers recognize that as a self-proclaimed flipper, the pool of prospective buyers has probably significantly shrunk compared to what it would otherwise be. Admitting that one is a flipper is self-defeating.
 
on_the_edge said:
I don't think there is necessarily a lot of drama. There certainly is no drama in putting someone on ignore. No, I think flippers recognize that as a self-proclaimed flipper, the pool of prospective buyers has probably significantly shrunk compared to what it would otherwise be. Admitting that one is a flipper is self-defeating.
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It doesn’t bother me. If they disagree with the practice then we shouldn’t do business anyways..
 
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bax229 said:
Putting a knife back on the Exchange, the same day that it's delivered, is wrong.

I'm glad that you're getting called out...that's life!
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Being new to knives as a hobby I've done this. Received a knife, decided it wasn't for me, and relisted same day. I see no issues with this. Of course, I treat this as a hobby and don't mind taking a loss. I've never sold for a higher price. I have sold for the same price and take a hit on PP fees and shipping. I hope this isn't frowned upon.
 
AZGabe said:
Being new to knives as a hobby I've done this. Received a knife, decided it wasn't for me, and relisted same day. I see no issues with this. Of course, I treat this as a hobby and don't mind taking a loss. I've never sold for a higher price. I have sold for the same price and take a hit on PP fees and shipping. I hope this isn't frowned upon.
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It’s your knife. Your free to do what you want with it. I think we have bought and sold each other knives and both of us are happy
 
Opportunism might not be against the rules, but SBS1974 has taken advantage of some people’s generosity around here and that makes me sick. Not everyone sees this place as a way to make a buck.

Just because it’s not against the rules doesn’t make it right.

I hope folks like SBS1974 pay taxes on these transactions and suffer all the financial hardship of a small business.
 
AZGabe said:
Being new to knives as a hobby I've done this. Received a knife, decided it wasn't for me, and relisted same day. I see no issues with this. Of course, I treat this as a hobby and don't mind taking a loss. I've never sold for a higher price. I have sold for the same price and take a hit on PP fees and shipping. I hope this isn't frowned upon.
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No, that’s a fine thing to do. And if you put on a little extra so you didn’t take a hit on fees no one would begrudge you that.

The point here is SBS1974 has taken a “it’s my knife, I’ll do what I want” stance. Fine- perfectly legal. But I’ve watched him make money on friends of mine who knew they weren’t charging the most they could.

Guys like SBS1974 make Blade Forums a profit-driven free market and destroy the club-like kinship many of us have enjoyed over the years. Other people do it too, but he’s got the balls to tell us he’s got no problem making money off us.
 
EngrSorenson said:
No, that’s a fine thing to do. And if you put on a little extra so you didn’t take a hit on fees no one would begrudge you that.

The point here is SBS1974 has taken a “it’s my knife, I’ll do what I want” stance. Fine- perfectly legal. But I’ve watched him make money on friends of mine who knew they weren’t charging the most they could.

Guys like SBS1974 make Blade Forums a profit-driven free market and destroy the club-like kinship many of us have enjoyed over the years. Other people do it too, but he’s got the balls to tell us he’s got no problem making money off us.
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Your entitled to an opinion. That’s fine. I paid people what they asked. I didn’t talk them down on price so I could make more profit. Anyways not getting into the back and forth of it. Different viewpoints and all that. Btw I don’t have a “small business” and don’t rely on any small earning to pay my bills and make my way in life. It’s a hobby for me also and one sometimes I make a couple dollars on, like other hobbies I have. If your that upset then BF offers the ignore button. I’ll do my thing and you can do yours. Easy enough. Take care
 
Some folks just can’t / won’t read!
I have no issues, nor does anyone else I would guess, with buying and selling here. Hell I am on a buying and trying and selling kick right now. I almost always lose a bit of money or at most break even. That’s what this place is about.

I didn't write a thing about capitalism. I wrote about a bunch of shitbirds that take advantage of a group of honest people they claim to be a part of just to make a dollar!

You go to a flee market and buy a knife at a good price then go to eBay and sell ? Hey right on, that’s how the market works, that’s what the flee market is, it’s a business with people selling for a living.

This isn’t a fleemarket, or a garage sale or a dumpster to pick thru. This is a community of hobbyist coming together to share a passion with like minded people. The guy that takes advantage of that to turn a dollar is an asshole.

While I find it distasteful that folks buy up all a drop then sell at a huge profit it’s the way capitalism is to work. Free market is a thing and if you don’t like the price don’t buy or wait a bit and after the flash calms down so do prices. I for one enjoy watching them sit as the sellers credit card payment comes due knowing retail price isn’t far away!
But we are not talking about that. We are talking about worthless pieces of shit that will take a dollar over a community member. These guys make money off the generosity and fairness of all of us that are here to share this thing we so love. To them I give an honest Go Fuck Yourself.
I would not walk across the street to piss on them if they were on fire.
 
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Sbs1974 said:
Your entitled to an opinion. That’s fine. I paid people what they asked. I didn’t talk them down on price so I could make more profit. Anyways not getting into the back and forth of it. Different viewpoints and all that. Btw I don’t have a “small business” and don’t rely on any small earning to pay my bills and make my way in life. It’s a hobby for me also and one sometimes I make a couple dollars on, like other hobbies I have. If your that upset then BF offers the ignore button. I’ll do my thing and you can do yours. Easy enough. Take care
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I propose a “+50% SBS1974 fee”. The title, of course is just an honorary name and will be applied to any known flippers. We know you can pay it ;). If you don’t see how your opportunism is unhealthy for the community, at the very least the community can make something off you.

I want you to buy knives you desire for your own collection at outrageous prices… just like the rest of us do as a result of your flipping.

Ignore you? No sir. Quite the opposite.
 
AZGabe said:
Being new to knives as a hobby I've done this. Received a knife, decided it wasn't for me, and relisted same day. I see no issues with this. Of course, I treat this as a hobby and don't mind taking a loss. I've never sold for a higher price. I have sold for the same price and take a hit on PP fees and shipping. I hope this isn't frowned upon.
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If you decide to relist it for what you paid...no problem. That is not "flipping."

2 hours after it arrived, he listed it in the Trade section to trade for some rare Sypderco Exclusives. After he didn't get any bites, he moved it to the For Sale section and eBay. It then sold on eBay and he made around $150.

I find most of this disgusting behavior involves GECs...but that's my opinion.
 
CHNeal said:
Hello All
I am sure that a lot of you have noticed a lot of flipper activity in the exchange lately.
People snapping up fairly priced knives here then flipping them at secondary market gouge on the bay. I am also sure a lot of you feel as I do about these practices.
Well I think we can work together to move the exchange away from it and back a bit to a place good honest members can buy, sell trade at good honest prices without dealing with this problem. We can’t get rid of this completely but maybe we can help at least some folks find the knives they are looking for and make it harder for the flippers to make a buck off of us.
I propose a more dedicated use of the Wanted to Buy forum both as sellers and buyers. If we work direct with one another we can cut these people out of the loop and perhaps even greatly reduce the money they are making off of the good honest folks here.
The exchange is a big deal here and draws a bunch of new members. Most don’t stay after buying a knife but lots do. I did. I’m lucky to have been here for years ( a decade between a couple accounts) and have made a lot of great friends that help me find what I’m looking for. The new guys not so much.
What say you all? Can we take an extra 5 minutes before posting a for-sale to browse the Wanted to Buy forum and maybe get the knife into the hands of a real BF member instead of some dude using our exchange to buy stock for his gouge emporium?
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Agree that flippers s*ck, CHN.

The problem with Want To Buy that I found is that when I tried responding to some adds in the past, at good prices, the buyers immediately started negotiating, asking for more pics and videos, etc., to a point where it’s much less hassle to sell outright.

It is what it is. I tell myself that the typical flipper invests much more time than the delta$ (s)he makes on a flip. A sad bunch, really. Just imagine, sitting in front of the exchange all day, waiting for a deal, repackaging, posting on ebay, filing tax paperwork, all that to make - what - 50-100 bucks ? :)

Roland.
 
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Sbs1974 said:
It’s a hobby for me also and one sometimes I make a couple dollars on, like other hobbies I have.
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Seems like your hobby is taking a knife and making it more expensive for other people while adding nothing of value to it yourself.
That's not much of a hobby- that's lazy, opportunistic profiteering.

I know people who make money on their hobbies, too. They get a store front and then they buy all these hobby-related items at a low cost, and then they open the doors and people come in to browse and purchase these items at a higher cost. They mark up the items a few bucks so they can turn a profit. You're running a business. "but it's not my fault they didn't ask for more, and it's not my fault people pay my prices". cut it out- it's totally your fault because you saw a situation you could inject yourself into and make it work for your benefit.

I'm strongly in favor of a flipper list and a flipper tax, and I'd put you right up in the first slot.
 
EngrSorenson said:
Seems like your hobby is taking a knife and making it more expensive for other people while adding nothing of value to it yourself.
That's not much of a hobby- that's lazy, opportunistic profiteering.

I know people who make money on their hobbies, too. They get a store front and then they buy all these hobby-related items at a low cost, and then they open the doors and people come in to browse and purchase these items at a higher cost. They mark up the items a few bucks so they can turn a profit. You're running a business. "but it's not my fault they didn't ask for more, and it's not my fault people pay my prices". cut it out- it's totally your fault because you saw a situation you could inject yourself into and make it work for your benefit.

I'm strongly in favor of a flipper list and a flipper tax, and I'd put you right up in the first slot.
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At least you agree I’m #1. In serious terms I’m not gonna bow out or name call or anything if the sort. I’m above that. If you don’t like that I do what I do then I guess we are at an impasse. I’m not going to publicly insult you or any others by cursing them and the like. I’ll take the high road. I guess it’s a sorry, not sorry sort of situation
 
Is this another 3FingerMac or Varenik situation? Sbs1974 Sbs1974 says he doesn’t always flip for a profit here and he has other sources. Is that on eBay or where else?
 
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