Folding Bushcraft Knife that is usable/comfortable - by Daniel Koster

Can a folding bushcraft knife compete with the fixed blade version?

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Nice looking knife but a folding bushcraft knife is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Anyone who would buy or carry a folder for bushcraft is an idiot who should not be allowed to own a knife.

Your knife may serve wonders for general edc cutting tasks but it will never be useful for heavy bushcraft.

Wow.....really? I guess I am an idiot too. I use a folder for "bushcraft" many times ever week. I am curious to know what you consider "Heavy Bushcraft" use? Because battoning does not qualify unless you are trying to baton giant logs wider than the blade. If you think anyone with a brain will try to use it for chopping down trees, heavy prying, digging, hammering, well, someone else might be the idiot here. I currently carry an Enzo folder with a scandi-ground blade and it is fantastic for bushcraft use, which for a folder like this will include carving, cutting game/veg, BATTONING (within the limits of idiocy), scraping, etc. OH, and as with ANY folder IT IS NOT, NOR HAS IT EVER BEEN DESIGNED, OR ADVERTISED FOR "HEAVY BUSHCRAFT" USE. We idiots actually know about axe's, machetes, and any number of custom choppers. Thank you and have a great day.
 
Wow.....really? I guess I am an idiot too. I use a folder for "bushcraft" many times ever week. I am curious to know what you consider "Heavy Bushcraft" use? Because battoning does not qualify unless you are trying to baton giant logs wider than the blade. If you think anyone with a brain will try to use it for chopping down trees, heavy prying, digging, hammering, well, someone else might be the idiot here. I currently carry an Enzo folder with a scandi-ground blade and it is fantastic for bushcraft use, which for a folder like this will include carving, cutting game/veg, BATTONING (within the limits of idiocy), scraping, etc. OH, and as with ANY folder IT IS NOT, NOR HAS IT EVER BEEN DESIGNED, OR ADVERTISED FOR "HEAVY BUSHCRAFT" USE. We idiots actually know about axe's, machetes, and any number of custom choppers. Thank you and have a great day.

I am going to make my reply as simple as possible so you can properly understand. If you are batoning with a folder, you might just be an idiot. Doesn't matter if you are batoning a twig or a log. Folders are not designed for batoning period. Carving, cutting game, light scraping, just about any decent folder can do.

But if you find yourself going around batoning, chopping, or prying with a folder then yes you are an idiot and a big one.
 
I am going to make my reply as simple as possible so you can properly understand. If you are batoning with a folder, you might just be an idiot. Doesn't matter if you are batoning a twig or a log. Folders are not designed for batoning period. Carving, cutting game, light scraping, just about any decent folder can do.

But if you find yourself going around batoning, chopping, or prying with a folder then yes you are an idiot and a big one.

LMAO. Again more "expertise". Wow. I baton with folders all the time. What amazes me is that you NEVER qualify either yourself OR your statements. Battoning small diameter pieces of wood with a folding knife is no more dangerous that with a fixed blade. Please explain to all of us "idiots", what the EXACT danger is? I guess I am simply too stupid to understand. I guess you expertise is based on Pakistani or Chinese knives as opposed to high quality modern folders with extremely strong locking mechanisms. Oh, and just to clarify, a folding knife is NOT my primary bushcraft blade.
 
Please explain to all of us "idiots", what the EXACT danger is?

I guess I am simply too stupid to understand.

It seems that you have found the answer to your own question.

I guess you expertise is based on Pakistani or Chinese knives as opposed to high quality modern folders with extremely strong locking mechanisms. Oh, and just to clarify, a folding knife is NOT my primary bushcraft blade.

My expertise comes from collecting hundreds and hundreds of different knives made by the best companies/makers. And let me say that I have never needed to baton with a folder in my life to know, that batoning with folders is idiotic. It's just common sense that you seem to lack much of.
 
It seems that you have found the answer to your own question.



My expertise comes from collecting hundreds and hundreds of different knives made by the best companies/makers. And let me say that I have never needed to baton with a folder in my life to know, that batoning with folders is idiotic. It's just common sense that you seem to lack much of.

BIGGER LMFAO. Wow, you know, instead of trying to insult us lesser people with your clear superiority and brilliance you can simply agree to disagree. OH, and collecting knives does not make you an expert on their use, especially when it is clear you only collect and do not use. Have a great day, the view must be awesome from you ivory tower.
 
BIGGER LMFAO. Wow, you know, instead of trying to insult us lesser people with your clear superiority and brilliance you can simply agree to disagree. OH, and collecting knives does not make you an expert on their use, especially when it is clear you only collect and do not use. Have a great day, the view must be awesome from you ivory tower.

I am always right. It's how I made my fortune. However today I will follow your advice and agree to disagree. Have a nice night.
 
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Nice looking knife but a folding bushcraft knife is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Anyone who would buy or carry a folder for bushcraft is an idiot who should not be allowed to own a knife.

Your knife may serve wonders for general edc cutting tasks but it will never be useful for heavy bushcraft.


Knifein, I took a look at all your previous post on this forum and so should everyone else! You are a 100% Genuine PRICK!!! We do not want your kind here or anywhere on this forum!!!
 
Hey guys - let's keep personal attacks off the forum.

For the sake of clarity, let's define a few things (already posted earlier in this thread, but I guess not everyone reads every post...*sigh*)

Bushcraft = skill at living in the bush
Bushcraft knife = a knife that helps you live out in the bush (wilderness/forest/etc.)
Batoning = using a knife to do axe work because you have no axe.


There's been some discussion on whether or not my folder can be used to baton - even though I have stated I have used it many times over the last year to do just that, and I say in this thread as well as on my webpage that you can indeed baton with it. I should know, right?

As long as the batoning is done correctly. This is the correct way to do it:

[video=youtube;rQHAdBxOSSE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQHAdBxOSSE[/video]

Any knife owner knows that if they use their knife (whether fixed or folding) to baton through something hard (say, a concrete block), they're going to damage the edge and possibly break the knife. This would be considered abuse. Most reasonably minded folks would also say that using a knife to "replace" an axe (rather than "compensate for lack of an axe") is also abuse. You can't tie your knife to a branch and slam it down on hardwood and expect it to survive.

For me, personally....Bushcraft is mental, not physical. It's not about what you've got, but more about *how* you use what you've got. Can you adapt to your surroundings and make do with what you have? Can you discover new uses for your tools? Can you become more efficient at using them? Can you use your tools to make more tools/gadgets?


For some, Bushcraft means Survival. This is not true. Bushcraft is more about going out and staying out. Survival is about living long enough to be rescued. A Bushcraft knife would be expected to last over longer periods of time...hold it's edge well...and be simple to use and resharpen. It's not a one-tool-to-rule-them-all, though it should be capable of handling multiple tasks. And it's implied that the owner will take good care of it and try to get as much use out of it as possible.


For even others, Bushcraft means abuse. They think that any knife should be a sharpened prybar, weigh a ton, have lots of grinds/angles, and require gloves for usage. That it should be able to be pounded through a car door, or a concrete block wall. That it should survive a 200ft drop from a Heli. Knives that are designed with those tasks in mind cannot handle the fine detail work needed for making traps and triggers...for drilling holes....for food prep...for dressing small game...for eating with...fire prep...fuzz sticks...woodcarving...spoonmaking...etc. Knives designed for *these* tasks require a keen edge that you keep honed. You shouldn't need to take your bushcraft knife back to a coarse stone unless you've abused it somehow.


Like I tell my Scouts: "Take care of your stuff, and your stuff takes care of you"


I stand by my design. I've tested for 18 months now of nearly daily use - in my pocket, backyard, hiking trips, etc. I've let newbs use it. I've had ole-duffers use it. Any issues that came up were resolved. This final prototype represents my 16th design modification. I'm not sure I can squeeze any more out of it. It's ready. I'm ready.

This knife was never the answer to the question "Can you make a folder as strong as a fixed blade"

It *was* an answer to the question "Can you make a folding knife that is comfortable enough to use for typical bushcraft use and will stand up to the demands". The comparison is to other folders. Most folders we carry out in the woods have uncomfortable handles for extended use, or thin grinds, or hard-to-sharpen steels, or are too lightweight. This one isn't any of those things.




If anyone can't imagine batoning with a folding knife, then perhaps they shouldn't.
*shrug*


Lastly, this is my forum. I try my best to not delete posts. So help me out by keeping things civil and gentlemanly. No-one is being forced to buy anything. If you disagree or dislike something, you're welcome to your opinion. Share it if you must. But one's words sometimes speak louder than intended. I invite anyone reading/lurking to browse the entire thread and judge for themselves.


I think that about covers it. :D
 
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Nice looking knife but a folding bushcraft knife is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Anyone who would buy or carry a folder for bushcraft is an idiot who should not be allowed to own a knife.

Your knife may serve wonders for general edc cutting tasks but it will never be useful for heavy bushcraft.

Well said Daniel!!! But, what was said above is totally unwarranted! Noone needs to invade your forum and post things like that! Name calling is not needed either, but what I called him is a proven fact in what he said and a whole lot of previous posts he has put up! Also, noone cares how much money he has!!! That has obviously went to his head!!!
 
Hi Daniel, I have a great interest in your folder, and I am following the thread from the beginning but, unfortunately, I am not in the first run. So, have I a chance to put my hands on one of your folding bushcraft?
 
If someone drops out on this first run, it will be offered up to the pre-order list first, and then here next.
 
Dan... You are correct and we should refrain from "Name Calling" , all here know your knives stand for themselves. However, when someone comes in and makes such a blanket opinion/statement that is so inflammatory, and lack such humility as to be offensive. I felt I needed to say something as well as to defend a friend, Shooter11b , Tacblade and others felt the same way. His obvious lack of Tact and Humility , is what drew us in. Thanks Dan for your post, I think you said it all .
 
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