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Gec #38 whittler
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I finally found one a couple of days ago but I believe they may be all snatched up. Disregard the notice about finding one. Long story.
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Wanna see it again? I can't get enough of this knife!
Full Resolution - Great Eastern Cutlery #38 Wallpaper
Full Resolution - Great Eastern Cutlery #38 Wallpaper
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Lemmy Caution, i was thinking the same thing: the # 38 Whittler is close to an exact copy of the Schrade-Walden 804.
I watched the knife you won but did not bid because i'm not sure those are the original handle covers. Both color and jigging are not typical of Schrade-Walden. If you want to find out, post it in the Schrade Collectors forum here on BF. True Schrade experts reside there, and i could be wrong.
kj
I watched the knife you won but did not bid because i'm not sure those are the original handle covers. Both color and jigging are not typical of Schrade-Walden. If you want to find out, post it in the Schrade Collectors forum here on BF. True Schrade experts reside there, and i could be wrong.
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Nice Schrade! A forum member (thank you, Duncan!) gave me a Schrade Heritage whittler. Later, I can do a side-by-side with the GEC #38. They're different but similar patterns. The pattern is OLD. I bet Charlie has a mint example of the oldest whittler tucked away in a knife roll. 
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Here are a couple photos of the 1984 Schrade Heritage next to the GEC #38. They're both nice knives but slightly different patterns.
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The GEC #38 and the Schrade 804 are similar while at the same time, quite different. The 804 is definitely the more robust of the two while the #38 is the slimmer and more svelte of the pair. The #38 surely is slimmer in profile on the secondary end as well as having a much thinner wedge. Kudos to Schrade on this feature, just look how thin it gets and how far forward the spacer extends! Notice the use of catch bits on the master end of the Schrade, a cool feature not found on the GEC which allows the use of thinner blade stock. Love how it looks but I actually prefer the thicker blade of the GEC.
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Jamie That's Stag from a legend, very fine example indeed
Well at last my Tidioute arrived, it's been 11 days in my own country-longer than it took to get from Michigan to Europe
Good job it had tracking as the PO claimed they had tried to deliver it but I was out at work surprise surprise, they left no note either! Anyway...
I tried to take a couple of pix with the CASE Seahorse but nothing decent appeared. It is worth comparing the two though. The CASE seems fractionally longer in frame but the GEC is wider, has bigger bolsters and more substantial minor blades. The Wharncliffe master on the CASE is a thick but rather short blade whereas the GEC's Clip is really long relative to its frame, a master stroke I reckon. The two weigh the same at around 65g which is very credible for a three blade. The CASE has two equal springs whereas the GEC has the divided and tapering backsprings-itself evidence of ambitious workmanship. Quality and finish are very high on both knives. The GEC has some minor gaps between liners and springs on the secondary blades but with this complex backspring it is not to be wondered at. The 38 displays NO blade rub at all which is very impressive, has excellent W&T on all three blades but I would prefer it to have no half stops on the minor blades (like the CASE does) but that's a taste question. The minor blades are bigger and more urgent than those on the CASE. The pile side has not got such good bone on it as the mark, the bone shows more pores had some sharp toothy bits that called for sanding but now all is OK. The domed pins (no horrid sink-holes on this one, my particular bete noire) are really a feature that screams artisan workmanship, extremely nice. I very much like this Green Bone that the Tidioute has as I feel its wavy jigging is well matched to the serpentine frame.
GEC have succeeded admirably with this pattern, my opinion is that it goes further than the CASE Seahorse, which itself is a very unusual and attractive knife. I can't whittle or carve myself, but the in hand feel of this knife is inspiringly comfortable! I look forward to seeing others' carving projects thanks to this newcomer. It certainly has old school authenticity.:thumbup:
Thanks, Will
Well at last my Tidioute arrived, it's been 11 days in my own country-longer than it took to get from Michigan to Europe
Good job it had tracking as the PO claimed they had tried to deliver it but I was out at work surprise surprise, they left no note either! Anyway...I tried to take a couple of pix with the CASE Seahorse but nothing decent appeared. It is worth comparing the two though. The CASE seems fractionally longer in frame but the GEC is wider, has bigger bolsters and more substantial minor blades. The Wharncliffe master on the CASE is a thick but rather short blade whereas the GEC's Clip is really long relative to its frame, a master stroke I reckon. The two weigh the same at around 65g which is very credible for a three blade. The CASE has two equal springs whereas the GEC has the divided and tapering backsprings-itself evidence of ambitious workmanship. Quality and finish are very high on both knives. The GEC has some minor gaps between liners and springs on the secondary blades but with this complex backspring it is not to be wondered at. The 38 displays NO blade rub at all which is very impressive, has excellent W&T on all three blades but I would prefer it to have no half stops on the minor blades (like the CASE does) but that's a taste question. The minor blades are bigger and more urgent than those on the CASE. The pile side has not got such good bone on it as the mark, the bone shows more pores had some sharp toothy bits that called for sanding but now all is OK. The domed pins (no horrid sink-holes on this one, my particular bete noire) are really a feature that screams artisan workmanship, extremely nice. I very much like this Green Bone that the Tidioute has as I feel its wavy jigging is well matched to the serpentine frame.
GEC have succeeded admirably with this pattern, my opinion is that it goes further than the CASE Seahorse, which itself is a very unusual and attractive knife. I can't whittle or carve myself, but the in hand feel of this knife is inspiringly comfortable! I look forward to seeing others' carving projects thanks to this newcomer. It certainly has old school authenticity.:thumbup:
Thanks, Will
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Ok, here is a Queen Splitback vs. the 38. Please forgive my photographic challenges here. A few pics and then a few words.
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The Queen and GEC's main blade side are basically the same size. The Secondary side on the GEC is narrower (?).
The Queen does not have halfstops on the secondary blades, GEC does.
The main blade sides on both step the blade in with grinding rather than using catch bits.
The stock thickness for main and secondary blades look identical.
The Queen's covers are "blockier" and feel more like a large stockman in pocket.
The GEC seems to disappear in pocket.
The tapered liner on both end in basically the same place/ratio (if that make sense). The GEC does taper down slightly more (on the thin side) than the Queen.
All nail nicks on the Queen are a challenge to engage. The swedges continue through the entire nail nick on the main. The main does have a matchstrike pull.
This GEC (Tidioute) has a drawn swedge that ends just shy of the top end of the nail nick. Nail purchase is great.
I did notice that the Northfields remove some of the depth to these nail nicks due to the machine swedges progressing into the nail nick area.
All metal on the Queen, including pins, is in the "white" which I like.
The dogleg is more exaggerated on the GEC.
The overall cover height is less than the Queen and the contours make it feel like a fat pencil that my preschooler uses. Very comfortable.
The narrowness of the GEC's cover and the exaggerated dogleg seem to allow the secondary blades to ride slightly higher, allowing for easier nail purchase.
I read the term Svelte used above to describe the GEC. I would agree and say that fits the bill perfectly.
I have two Northfield varieties and I'd say the drawn swedges on this titioute seems more practicle on this pattern. The deep nail nicks are executed wonderfully.
Of course the Northfields look "prettier".
My pics do not do the knives justice, but the Queen in the "white" with MOP covers and an abalone ribbon look the best even though it is not executed as well as the GEC.
The Queen and GEC's main blade side are basically the same size. The Secondary side on the GEC is narrower (?).
The Queen does not have halfstops on the secondary blades, GEC does.
The main blade sides on both step the blade in with grinding rather than using catch bits.
The stock thickness for main and secondary blades look identical.
The Queen's covers are "blockier" and feel more like a large stockman in pocket.
The GEC seems to disappear in pocket.
The tapered liner on both end in basically the same place/ratio (if that make sense). The GEC does taper down slightly more (on the thin side) than the Queen.
All nail nicks on the Queen are a challenge to engage. The swedges continue through the entire nail nick on the main. The main does have a matchstrike pull.
This GEC (Tidioute) has a drawn swedge that ends just shy of the top end of the nail nick. Nail purchase is great.
I did notice that the Northfields remove some of the depth to these nail nicks due to the machine swedges progressing into the nail nick area.
All metal on the Queen, including pins, is in the "white" which I like.
The dogleg is more exaggerated on the GEC.
The overall cover height is less than the Queen and the contours make it feel like a fat pencil that my preschooler uses. Very comfortable.
The narrowness of the GEC's cover and the exaggerated dogleg seem to allow the secondary blades to ride slightly higher, allowing for easier nail purchase.
I read the term Svelte used above to describe the GEC. I would agree and say that fits the bill perfectly.
I have two Northfield varieties and I'd say the drawn swedges on this titioute seems more practicle on this pattern. The deep nail nicks are executed wonderfully.
Of course the Northfields look "prettier".
My pics do not do the knives justice, but the Queen in the "white" with MOP covers and an abalone ribbon look the best even though it is not executed as well as the GEC.
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Neptune acrylic! :thumbup: I feel like going snorkeling for some reason.
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Whoa, that knife is almost enough to start triggering some flashbacks :hypnotysed: :thumbup:
If anyone is leaning towards dressing their Whittler in a leather pocket slip, you really need to look at these new slips Mike is offering. They are perfect if you prefer your slips on the minimalist side and the leather is very high quality and feels amazing. The large is a perfect fit for the knife.
If anyone is leaning towards dressing their Whittler in a leather pocket slip, you really need to look at these new slips Mike is offering. They are perfect if you prefer your slips on the minimalist side and the leather is very high quality and feels amazing. The large is a perfect fit for the knife.
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Neptune acrylic! :thumbup: I feel like going snorkeling for some reason.
Man that is beautiful.....great score.
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I just ordered one in ebony, and am really looking forward to it!
I was going to wait and see if they would offer it with a wharncliffe main sometime down the line, but Lemmy Caution's pictures of his with the patina starting just broke me down.
I was going to wait and see if they would offer it with a wharncliffe main sometime down the line, but Lemmy Caution's pictures of his with the patina starting just broke me down.
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