GEC...Please Make More Patterns Available To Us in 440C...yea or nea ?

Actually, Bob, that 62 Half Congress in Bird's Eye Maple is mighty pretty. Love the triple fluted bolsters. If I weren't already over my knife budget for a while I might have to take that one off your hands!
 
sitflyer said:
OK rma100, I'll bite. I already have a 48 dogleg single blade trapper, and I don't really care for the long spey's on trappers, so have gifted and sold all of my two blade trappers by all makers out of my collection. The Gambler just doesn't do anything for me as a pattern, nor do melon knives. Half congress is tempting but not really my taste as well, plus, but I bet a lot of folks interested in such a pattern may be holding off presently waiting on the 2013 forum knife.

A question if I may ask. As a dealer can you tell us if any past offerings in different patterns have moved quickly. I am curious about the 72 in either a clip or Wharncliffe. If there were some patterns that moved well for you could you share some insight as to possibly why?
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I'm not sure if this is the correct thread for this discussion. 72's in both Clip or Wharncliffe move as fast as we can get them listed. And by the way, GEC just announced to their Distributors a new run of 72 Single Blade Lockbacks with a run of Clip Blade a run of Spear Blade and a run of Wharncliffe Blades, standard handle materials, Tidioute, Northfield 25 of each handle material. Available for Pre-Release order here: http://oldhundredcollectibles.com/Pre-Release_Order_Page.html

Also the 73 Single Drop Point Blade is far and away the most popular pattern GEC has ever made.
 
rma100 said:
I'm not sure if this is the correct thread for this discussion. 72's in both Clip or Wharncliffe move as fast as we can get them listed. And by the way, GEC just announced to their Distributors a new run of 72 Single Blade Lockbacks with a run of Clip Blade a run of Spear Blade and a run of Wharncliffe Blades, standard handle materials, Tidioute, Northfield 25 of each handle material. Available for Pre-Release order here: http://oldhundredcollectibles.com/Pre-Release_Order_Page.html

Also the 73 Single Drop Point Blade is far and away the most popular pattern GEC has ever made.
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Actually I think this fits right in. The original post was in fact a question of why not more 440C in the more popular patterns. So I asked you as a dealer if you had seen past models that moved quickly, which apparently they did. So why not more offerings in patterns like 76 Jacks, 85 Jacks, etc? A way to gauge interest would be to analyze past movers and try to get an idea of why some went fast and others may have sat longer.

On another note, I really like your website setup and search...
 
sitflyer said:
Actually I think this fits right in. The original post was in fact a question of why not more 440C in the more popular patterns. So I asked you as a dealer if you had seen past models that moved quickly, which apparently they did. So why not more offerings in patterns like 76 Jacks, 85 Jacks, etc? A way to gauge interest would be to analyze past movers and try to get an idea of why some went fast and others may have sat longer.

On another note, I really like your website setup and search...
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Well thanks for the compliment on my website, I appreciate that. I work hard at it. And second, the patterns I mentioned in my last post, the 72 and 73 single blades, move quickly regardless of blade steel. The 89's in 440C Stainless were somewhat of a slow mover. My experience is that as far as sales go it is more about the Pattern or Handle Material than the Blade Steel.
 
http://oldhundredcollectibles.com/Pre-Release_Order_Page.html

There is certainly a lot of stuff in the pipeline, but no mention of any 440C as far as I can make out, are any of these stainless and I just don't know what to look for?





rma100 said:
Well thanks for the compliment on my website, I appreciate that. I work hard at it. And second, the patterns I mentioned in my last post, the 72 and 73 single blades, move quickly regardless of blade steel. The 89's in 440C Stainless were somewhat of a slow mover. My experience is that as far as sales go it is more about the Pattern or Handle Material than the Blade Steel.
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Thank You for the info, it is much appreciated.
 
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sitflyer said:
http://oldhundredcollectibles.com/Pre-Release_Order_Page.html

There is certainly a lot of stuff in the pipeline, but no mention of any 440C as far as I can make out, are any of these stainless and I just don't know what to look for?
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I just looked back through this list and everything is Tidioute and Northfield, meaning 1095. Having said that, nothing from GEC is a sure thing until you have it in hand. There could be additions, subtractions, substitutions, any or all of the above, or not. GEC is not a Huge Corporation. It's a small business, roughly 24 or so employees, sometimes things change. Any number of factors influence this. Availability of materials, scheduling problems due to any number of factors, etc, etc. Just imagine the challenges faced by a small business, trying to make a Traditional Product in todays business climate!
 
I personally have no interest in stainless GEC's.

So while it wouldn't bother me if they did, I am indifferent.
 
Hi RMA100, when do you think the 73's and 72's will be in?

I have a few GEC 1095 and really love the character the blade takes on after some use. However, I would be interested in giving the 440 a try as well. Imho, I think the 1095 suits the style of knife very well.
 
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Hi RMA100, when do you think the 73's and 72's will be in?

I have a few GEC 1095 and really love the character the blade takes on afterbsome use. However, I would be interested in giving the 440 a try as well. Imho, I think the 1095 suits the style of knife very well.
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Only an educated guess Marc. I would say the end of July for the 73's and probably mid-August for the 72's. Of course referring back to my statements about GEC scheduling.
 
rma100 said:
GEC is not a Huge Corporation. It's a small business, roughly 24 or so employees, sometimes things change. Any number of factors influence this. Availability of materials, scheduling problems due to any number of factors, etc, etc. Just imagine the challenges faced by a small business, trying to make a Traditional Product in todays business climate!
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Excellent point made right there. It is truly amazing what they do and how well they do it. And these points that you raised are good reminder of what kind of challenge they must face to keep up with demand. I only started this thread in fun to see what kind of response it would raise, and in no way meant to offend GEC or their devoted customers and fans. It would be nice if such a response maybe elicited some future offerings though, and some pretty good suggestions have come out of this discussion. So maybe if their production capacity increases in the future we might be offered some of what we ask...I was always told if you don't ask, you don't get.
So Here's to GEC's continues success!
Cheers!
 
willgoy said:
For sure GEC SHOULD expand its handle options in stainless, they're far too pedestrian!
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I think the most interesting question of it all is why does GEC conspicuously use simpler, prosaic handle materials in their stainless steel offerings. The richer handle options are very rarely paired with 440C blades. GEC does it consistently enough to the point that it is quite obviously not a coincidence. If you want a GEC in stainless, you will probably have to settle for a lackluster handle material.

I much prefer carbon steel in my pocket knives BTW, but this is an intriguing question I have often pondered about.
 
rma100 said:
Only an educated guess Marc. I would say the end of July for the 73's and probably mid-August for the 72's. Of course referring back to my statements about GEC scheduling.
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Thank you for that info Bob, I very much look forward to both these patterns. I think they are almost the perfect EDC in weight/size/utility/cost/quality.
 
Variety is the spice of life. I'd love to have more 440C GECs along side my 1095 GECs. Good stainless is hard to beat on a working knife. Then again I'm quite fond of the patina 1095 exhibits. Either way I'm a happy camper so as long as fit and finish is kept up to the old standard. I'd be ecstatic if they offered 52100.
 
Valle said:
I think the most interesting question of it all is why does GEC conspicuously use simpler, prosaic handle materials in their stainless steel offerings. The richer handle options are very rarely paired with 440C blades. GEC does it consistently enough to the point that it is quite obviously not a coincidence. If you want a GEC in stainless, you will probably have to settle for a lackluster handle material.

I much prefer carbon steel in my pocket knives BTW, but this is an intriguing question I have often pondered about.
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In my humble opinion, I would hardly call American Elk or Birds Eye Maple "lackluster".
 
Valle said:
I think the most interesting question of it all is why does GEC conspicuously use simpler, prosaic handle materials in their stainless steel offerings. The richer handle options are very rarely paired with 440C blades. GEC does it consistently enough to the point that it is quite obviously not a coincidence. If you want a an AcornGEC in stainless, you will probably have to settle for a lackluster handle material.
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I've wondered the same thing for a while now. It almost feels like being put on punishment if you want an acorn.

My dream is for ebony and 440C -that would be amazing :thumbup:
 
jazub said:
I've wondered the same thing for a while now. It almost feels like being put on punishment if you want an acorn.

My dream is for ebony and 440C -that would be amazing :thumbup:
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I want ebony on the stainless GECs as well. I really want a #48 Jack (/ Schrade 294 / Remington 315 style) in ebony, so much so I plan to ask for that as my next custom knife later this summer. I expect the cost of that knife would cover another group shot of 440c GECs. Just sayin...
 
rma100 said:
In my humble opinion, I would hardly call American Elk or Birds Eye Maple "lackluster".
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No Bob, not lacklustre but they're materials with a limited appeal. For sure, offer something with American materials, but to almost exclusively confine the stainless options to these is clearly a mistake. Their stainless is really good, their patterns have a depth of appeal and would sell far more if GEC would make use of its other handles as well. For example, my stainless White Owl in Light Tan was one of only 5 made, I'm certain the bones, hardwoods etc would be very keenly received.Why not have acrylics or micarta mated to stainless for that matter?

Regards to all, Will
 
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