Guardians of The Lambsfoot!

JTB_5 said:
Rainy all day today. Still, there’s a small window for me to grill my b-day pork loins!View attachment 1654629
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Happy Birthday Joshua! 😎👍
cudgee said:
I recently posted some photos of a project that i had undertaken. A brief history, i had a Lambsfoot that i did not like from the moment i got it, the covers were cheap and plastic looking and far too thick at the end of the covers. I remember having an online chat with Dylan @Pàdruig about this very issue, he had the same problem in a different colour and if my memory serves me right he had his recovered. So i was going to try a recover with some wood i have that will sand smooth and polish up nicely, but was warned this my be too big a job for my first attempt, and may ruin the knife. I did not want to do that, the actual knife is easy to sharpen and keeps a good edge, so i was given some other options, this is what i did. First i sanded it right back and smoothed the jigging taking particular attention to the end, i ended up removing about 1/16 of an inch from each side, and it now sits and feels a lot better in the hand, and the sides run parallel to one another. I then soaked it in some hydrogen peroxide, this is the method advised to remove dye and whiten bone, good in theory, not so good in practice. I soaked the knife in a 3% solution for 48 hours, but only a certain amount came out, but more on the lighter side, so soaked it again for 24 hours in a 6% solution, not much difference, so i came to a conclusion, that this only works on light colours and only some success on dark colours. I did some research and found a woman online who does this for a living so i contacted her and she verified my conclusion, will only remove dye completely on light colours and also the length of time the dye has been in the bone, so an old knife will not release the dye so easily. I thought this my be useful information for those out there that contemplate this method in the future, if you ever do and want some help or advise please feel free to ask me, only to glad to help. When i contacted the woman i thought of my dad, he always said if you want to know how to try or do something, ask someone who does it for a living. Anyway, did not get the result i wanted, but a huge improvement on how it was, i will give an analogy, if i saw it how it was for the first time in a store behind the counter, would have had a quick glance and kept going, now, if i saw this in a second hand store or market stand i'm all over it.
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This is how it was.

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After sanding and thinning.

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After Hydrogen peroxide soak.

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After a mineral oil bath and buff and polish with Renwax.

Would love your input and opinions, good or bad, i take criticism very well, i'm used to it.
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I like it, looks cool! 😎👍
 
cudgee said:
Thanks, it looks so much better than it did, looked really garish and cheap, but thinning it out made a huge difference. I may do another project if i can get enough interest here. :thumbsup:
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I like seeing folks mod their knives. All I’ve done is a bit of sanding here and there. One of these days I’m going to get the courage and confidence to go a little further. 😊
 
Hey Cudgee, it does look good, although I don't think your knife looked all that bad in the beginning, what was it that you didn't like the Thickness of the Handles or the Colour? or the both combined? I read that you didn't like the "Plastic looking " Handles.

I think the Deeper olive with it's transparency showing the Bone activity looked quite nice, the Pile side you can totally accept with the Colour variance, I think if anything let the Knife down it was the Jigging that let down the Handles - its very plain and has the 70's Japanese Jig pattern to it.
What you did definitely improved the Knife, did you reconsider after using Peroxide using a Dye and re-dying it?

What a difference the Mineral oil and Buffing did to those Handles! wow! :) :thumbsup:
 
Campbellclanman said:
Hey Cudgee, it does look good, although I don't think your knife looked all that bad in the beginning, what was it that you didn't like the Thickness of the Handles or the Colour? or the both combined? I read that you didn't like the "Plastic looking " Handles.

I think the Deeper olive with it's transparency showing the Bone activity looked quite nice, the Pile side you can totally accept with the Colour variance, I think if anything let the Knife down it was the Jigging that let down the Handles - its very plain and has the 70's Japanese Jig pattern to it.
What you did definitely improved the Knife, did you reconsider after using Peroxide using a Dye and re-dying it?

What a difference the Mineral oil and Buffing did to those Handles! wow! :) :thumbsup:
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It just looked cheap and felt to bulky in the hand, first impressions are rarely wrong, when i opened the package was immediately disappointed and thought would never had bought this if i saw it in a store. Feels much better with just the covers thinned, it was one time where the photos of it made it look better than in person. I had 2 plans, keep it as plain bone, i have a case plain bone that i just love the colour, or re-dye it. I even had the dye ready to go, but mixing dye with the base colour would be a nightmare, you would not know what the final colour would be, but i may in the future. I mentioned before i have another project i may try if there is enough interest here.
But it was a good learning curve, and i learnt a hell of a lot, and can hopefully help other Porchonians in the future if they want to try it. Lot of mis information out there about using hydrogen peroxide to remove dye.
 
Crazy Canuck said:
Hello Guardians! I can't believe I was a month behind on this thread, but finally got caught up again today. Jack had mentioned in another thread that you were chatting about coal mines on Sunday. That was a bit of a coincidence, and Christina and I were hiking to explore an abandoned coal mining town, and I had a Lambsfoot in the pocket ;)

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Not a lot left of the Mine #1 or the townsite, but it was a fun outing for the day.

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Hi Mike, thanks for posting some of your pics over here too :) That looked like a fascinating place to visit, and a good focus for a hike. It looks you're still enjoying some great weather my friend :) :thumbsup:
cudgee said:
I recently posted some photos of a project that i had undertaken. A brief history, i had a Lambsfoot that i did not like from the moment i got it, the covers were cheap and plastic looking and far too thick at the end of the covers. I remember having an online chat with Dylan @Pàdruig about this very issue, he had the same problem in a different colour and if my memory serves me right he had his recovered. So i was going to try a recover with some wood i have that will sand smooth and polish up nicely, but was warned this my be too big a job for my first attempt, and may ruin the knife. I did not want to do that, the actual knife is easy to sharpen and keeps a good edge, so i was given some other options, this is what i did. First i sanded it right back and smoothed the jigging taking particular attention to the end, i ended up removing about 1/16 of an inch from each side, and it now sits and feels a lot better in the hand, and the sides run parallel to one another. I then soaked it in some hydrogen peroxide, this is the method advised to remove dye and whiten bone, good in theory, not so good in practice. I soaked the knife in a 3% solution for 48 hours, but only a certain amount came out, but more on the lighter side, so soaked it again for 24 hours in a 6% solution, not much difference, so i came to a conclusion, that this only works on light colours and only some success on dark colours. I did some research and found a woman online who does this for a living so i contacted her and she verified my conclusion, will only remove dye completely on light colours and also the length of time the dye has been in the bone, so an old knife will not release the dye so easily. I thought this my be useful information for those out there that contemplate this method in the future, if you ever do and want some help or advise please feel free to ask me, only to glad to help. When i contacted the woman i thought of my dad, he always said if you want to know how to try or do something, ask someone who does it for a living. Anyway, did not get the result i wanted, but a huge improvement on how it was, i will give an analogy, if i saw it how it was for the first time in a store behind the counter, would have had a quick glance and kept going, now, if i saw this in a second hand store or market stand i'm all over it.
UlNVGpw.jpg

uu4Qy4s.jpg

This is how it was.

fjlkwru.jpg

After sanding and thinning.

7j2GvtA.jpg

f38tF10.jpg

After Hydrogen peroxide soak.

4ZYEjm1.jpg

pJYGBe3.jpg

After a mineral oil bath and buff and polish with Renwax.

Would love your input and opinions, good or bad, i take criticism very well, i'm used to it.
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Great project Leon, thanks for telling us all about it :) I think you did a good job, and your knife looks a lot better as a result. That firm have been using that horribly jigged, plasticky-looking, garishly-coloured bone for years now. They sell comparatively few of those knives, from which they might conclude that they need to reconsider the way they look, but instead, they have concluded that they're not worth putting any effort into, and keep on turning them out. I spoke to them many times about the knives, but unfortunately, lack of imagination, and lack of investment, are the cornerstones of what remains of the Sheffield cutlery industry :rolleyes: Reaper AL Reaper AL 's approach was to buy a bunch of their cheapest knives, and to ask J jsdistin to take them apart, rebuild them properly, and then add some decent covers. Others have taken a similar approach, like your good self. Well done :thumbsup:

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I have another project in mind if Guardians are interested, it could be like a " Guardians Work In Progress ", i would be prepared to take photos at different stages and see how it turned out, if people respond that they would find it interesting i am more than happy to try it, we would all learn something for future reference i'm sure. :thumbsup:
 
Good morning Guardians, halfway through the week already! Where does the time go? JTB_5 JTB_5 Joshua, I hope the rain stopped a little for you there, and that you enjoyed your birthday :thumbsup: I also hope that Jon0385 Jon0385 isn't feeling too despondent about the damage caused to his Lambsfoot :thumbsup:

I posted the pic below in the knives and tools thread, and thought I'd explain what those objects are accompanying my AC. In the past, all the machinery in cutlery 'hulls' was driven by leather belts connected to an overhead drive-shaft. Most of those belts were connected by stud-like 'buttons', others were connected by buckles, like the ones shown here, which were gifted to me by John Maleham :thumbsup:

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Have a good day Guardians :thumbsup:

 
cudgee said:
I have another project in mind if Guardians are interested, it could be like a " Guardians Work In Progress ", i would be prepared to take photos at different stages and see how it turned out, if people respond that they would find it interesting i am more than happy to try it, we would all learn something for future reference i'm sure. :thumbsup:
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Definitely Leon :cool: :thumbsup:
 
cudgee said:
Great shot, and magnificent covers on that lamb.
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Thank you very much mate, I have at least one of the old Button Spanners, which were used to change the old leather drive belts, but don't seem to be able to lay my hands on them :rolleyes: Too many tools! And knives! :D ;) :thumbsup:
 
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