HI Scramsax/Seax/Saex Design Thread

:o Dan, look at the picture closer, Robert (Lord Robert of Yorkshire, 23rd King's Archer)is me back when I used to dye my hair to cover the gray.:o :D

Sarge
 
Sarge - I was hoping that he was at least your brother...:eek:

The resemblance is uncanny...:rolleyes:

:D
 
Dan, you can put Robert of Yorkshire back on the list (yup that'll make two, one for 21st century me, and one for 13th century me). However, I suspect Lord Robert will want Anglo Saxon runes, whereas I want old Norse (Germanic Futhark), I'll work that out with Keith.:rolleyes: :D

Sarge
 
"Takers" - money in hand

1. pendentive + runes
2. Ferrous + runes
3. Sarge + runes
4. sweet + runes
5. raghorn + runes
6. beoram + runes
7. Robert of Yorkshire + A.S. runes
8. Pax-V
9. ruel + runes
10.
11.


Very Interested

1. Aardvark
2. Bobwhite
3. Yvsa
4.
 
No Prob, Sarge. Tell ol' Rob we'll have him covered in any century.

Here's the runic sets I know:

1. Elder Futhark--Also called Common Germanic Futhark, 24 runes. Most studied and oldest of the Futharks. Used for writing and divination.

2. Anglo-Saxon and Northumbrian Runes - In 6th century BCE, there were changes in the language (frisian influence), and more characters were added, totalling 29. These runes were brought to England by Frisians, Saxons, Jutes, and Angles. (England or Angle-land is actually named after the Anglish invaders).

3. The Northumbrian runeset - Changes in 6th and 7th century dialect and spoken sounds caused this evolution of the Anglo-Saxon Runes, centered in Northumbria. The Northumbrian set adds four more runes to the Anglo-Saxon set, making the Northumbrian Futhark the largest at 33 runes.

4. The Younger Futhark - In Scandinavia, the 7th and 8th centuries brought change to the languages, new sounds were added and thus called for new written characters. The Scandinavian runic scholars revvised the Elder Futhark by removing 8 runes and "simplifying" the writing of the characters. This was used by the Danes and Swedes and Norse. It is this version of the runes that appear on runestones in America, like the ones close by Yvsas place. Totalling only 16 runes caused problems, as some runes had to stand for up to six sounds! THis is by far the hardest rune set to interpret.

5. Gothic runes - Essentially based on the Elder Futhark, adds one character to total 25 runes. Goths were some of the first folks in Europe to use the runes. (Goth is as in Ostorgoths or Visigoths--Ostro is East, Visi is West, so East and West Goths)

6. Medieval runes - Used mostly for healing and magic, they are Germanic and Dutch in origin, and largely represent the gods and goddesses worshipped secretly during Christian times. This set has only eight runes, which are often formed by combining runes into one complex rune.

All that said, I prefer the bigger futharks, as they cover all of the sounds the modern english speaker would make. I suggest that the rune-wanters pick from #1, #2, #3 or #5.

The name "Futhark" to denote a runeset comes from the order of the runes in the Elder rune line, with the first six characters being F, U, Th, A, R, and K. Ya gotta love an alphabet that starts with F U!:)

Keith
 
Pendentive --

"Taker," as long as all the numbers are gonna stay roughly the same. :cool:
 
one more and we'll have 10 takers.

I think we'll ask Bill to order a dozen.

DaveK - model sent yet?

Dan
 
"Takers" - money in hand

1. pendentive + runes
2. Ferrous + runes
3. Sarge + runes
4. sweet + runes
5. raghorn + runes
6. beoram + runes
7. Robert of Yorkshire + A.S. runes
8. Pax-V
9. ruel + runes
10. spence
11.


Very Interested

1. Aardvark
2. Bobwhite
3. Yvsa
4.
 
Re: payment details

I'm going to have to have a very persuasive chat with Bill...

Let's see what he wants to do first.

Dan
 
Uncle has agreed to this process:

When the scrams come in, he'll hold 8 (number of takers with runes).

Keith will then pay for all 8 and they will be shipped directly to him.

Keith will then put on the runes and ship them out to each of the 8 individually. (what kind of timeframe are we looking at?)


My guess is that in order to make this a quick and smooth process, we'll need to have paid Keith in advance so he's ready to pay Uncle when they come in.

Uncle has set the price at $100 including s/h - a heckuva deal. So add to that the amount for runes ($10-$20+) and shipping from Indiana ($10-$15) and send payment to Keith directly.


My confidence level with this project is as high as it was with the Pen Knife. There are only 2 snags - the flat grind (zero-edge bevel) and the custom sheath.

We'll be mailing all sorts of pics and print-outs on what it needs to look like along with the model. I'm pretty confident it will go well. At the very least, it will definitely be a Ltd. Ed.


Keith - Let's go ahead and establish the shipping courier you'll be using. That way we can figure out ahead of time what the total cost will be. You should be able to get the triangle boxes from the courier - just cut 'em down to size and overlap them (that's what I did with the Pen Knife box).



Here's a possible timeframe:
(subject to change)
  • Mar. 7 - wood model goes to Uncle
  • Mar. 11 - wood model sent to Nepal
  • Apr. 7 - scrams arrive in NV - (8 held extras posted for sale)
  • Apr. 10 - scrams arrive in IN
  • Apr. 17 - scrams arrive at your home
 
I'd like to use Fed Ex priority insured. Works good here.

timeline-- I'll only need a weekend to do the blade etch, any other mods (listed previously) will take more time. I plan to do the blades on the weekend of the week in which they arrive, then they should be ready to fly on the Monday after that. So far, no orders require more than the runes, so that'll make it simple.

I assume all of you who want runes will want the tiw rune near the bolster as well? Its a freebie.

Additionally, if you "Definite Takers" could all email me your zip code, I can go to the post office and run the numbers for shipping ahead of time. I prefer to have this shipping and money stuff ready before I receive the blades, just for simplicity. (Thanks Mike!)

I wrote a bit on the naming of blades, that I might want to share with any of you who are not sure what sort of runic inscription you would like.

When I ship the seaxes, I will include a page or so on the runes, including their letter meaning and esoteric meanings. Then you can all be risting (writing, reddening) the runes like Vitkis (Runesters)!

I will keep this list of Takers who have contacted me with their info:
1.Raghorn
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.

THanks!
Keith
 
This photo sure looked like it belongs here.

Identified only as a "large hunting knife" at some on-line estate auction that featured a lot of revolutionary war era stuff.

9-lrg.hunt.kni.jpg


Looks pretty seax-like to me.
 
That's a ballock style handle, and a dirk it is. I dunno if it could easily be dated, as it is made from a cut-down saber of Scottish or Baltic origin. Knives were often made from broken sword blades. I'd place the blade as no older than 200 years, fittings perhaps 80-150 years old. That maker's mark by the fuller terminus would tell the story straight. Neat piece.

Noted that they are selling this item on page 4 of the winter 2003 sale:

"294 PAINTED FIRKIN"

http://www.cottoneauctions.com/WINTER2003/winter2003-ORDER OF SALE-PAGE 4.htm

Any comments, Firkin?

Keith
 
hooray!!

Keith finally has his email in is profile...

I can't count the number of times I've had to dig through old emails to find it...and look! now it's at the bottom of every post.

:p
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top