"Horizon" 2014 new knives Lightning quick opening, from china Reate custom knives inc

spydercobenchmadekai said:
I'm not convinced until you knock another $100 of the price and add a warranty. (Then I still don't want recurve, but whatever.)
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I thought he mentioned it having a warranty earlier in the thread? I know he specifically said that modifications would void the warranty.

All in all I don't know that I would call these custom knives in the American sense of the word, that may be something lost in translation or a word used differently in Chinese. I will say that the prices do not look very out of line for a high end production knife. Whether the quality is high enough to warrant it I can't say, having never seen one in person.
 
spydercobenchmadekai said:
So:

1. No. Production.
2. M390. $240 for the S35VN version.
3. No.
4. We'll see!

Which means:

$240 for a production version in S35VN; no warranty, and who knows how the quality will be.
$350 for the production version in M390; same as above.

I'm not convinced until you knock another $100 of the price and add a warranty. (Then I still don't want recurve, but whatever.)
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Warranty - we very proud.In the quality of our products and process very proud.If you are not completely satisfied with your purchase you can return or exchange or refund.Not by any modification with a knife will warranty null and void and will not accept returns.

Because we haven't distributor in the United States, so the warranty will be Reate Knives Factory.Have two scheme can perform: 1, can Reate knives factory mailing parts to the customer.2, can send back to Reate knives factory warranty.
If a knife is damaged under normal use, but by Reate knives factory free exchange.
 
Bigfatts said:
I thought he mentioned it having a warranty earlier in the thread? I know he specifically said that modifications would void the warranty.

All in all I don't know that I would call these custom knives in the American sense of the word, that may be something lost in translation or a word used differently in Chinese. I will say that the prices do not look very out of line for a high end production knife. Whether the quality is high enough to warrant it I can't say, having never seen one in person.
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I can't really tell. He just keeps saying how their quality is so great and they make such a good design, which I'm taking to mean is an excuse for not having a warranty. (At least a warranty as we think of it.)

Maybe he could hire a translator for a day? It would help clear up a lot of stuff.

NEVERMIND--he posted as I did. Well, it looks like he does have a warranty. I would only consider buying one over a ZT if you knock at least $100 off the price and remove the recurve. But to each his own.
 
BellaBlades said:
Great job keeping up with us.
I understand the language barrier. But if you keep posting the same paragraph for every question lol, it wont help us very much.
Do you have an online translator or something?
What is the EMS price. Not clear if that is a discount for Emergency folks. Still sipping coffee here. I think your knife would look amazing with a full flat and no recurve.
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Hi, thank you for your prompt. EMS price is an international courier fees (such as: TNT, DHL)
 
A Justice said:
Just think of makers like CRK - they're most definitely production knives by your definition, but until a couple years ago people routinely referred to those as custom knives.
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I didn't read all of your post, but the first line of this paragraph caught my eye.
No one was referring that CRK's were custom knives a couple of years ago. Not sure where you got that one from, but I haven't seen anyone refer to CRK's as customs since he started his company. He was a Custom maker, but that was a very long time ago.

this would be taken at face value if this was an American company, and no one would question it if the knife was $600, or even $800.
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I also noticed the last sentence of your post. I don't think anyone here would pay $600 to $800 for this production knife if it was made in America.
 
Ken44 said:
I don't think anyone here would pay $600 to $800 for this production knife if it was made in America.
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I wouldn't! (Without a recurve), I would pay $200 if it was made in the USA, which oddly enough is what similar ZTs go for. Made in China, and I'll pay $100 for the S35VN version or $150 for the M390. Really, that's how much the country of origin matters to me.
 
A Justice said:
Come on kid, you're more astute than that. Your Loveless knife was likely made to the maker's specifications, but it's considered a custom. Do you know why?
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Because there will never be another one like it. It is one of a kind. You don't make prototypes of custom knives. Because each true cutom IS a prototype, as there are never more than one.

(And it's a Kressler, BTW.)

I would not consider the Loveless integral drop-point a custom. I would consider it a very high quality mid-tech, as there have been many identical knives made.
 
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unwisefool said:
Yeah I think they need a better logo. Looks like a nice knife. I'm interested to see how it works out.
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Thank you, this is a good suggestion. Because the new LOGO is still updating, temporary replaced by Reate. The new LOGO publishing also please give advice.
 
I personally think that it is up to the maker to specify how much the price of his own creation will be, then those who don't want to buy it just shut up and continue with their own life. You haven't even touched it yet. You think anything made in China is cheap? Try those antique porcelain... then you will complain that some old bowl will cost you a fortune to get? And mind you: this is not a copy of ZT, doesn't even look like it.

Come on guys, let's NOT play politics here. Give him a chance. I am buying one myself, to test it out and give a fair trial to it. If it turns out to be a good knife, then $350 is fair. I mean, I even pay much more for my Hinderer, CRK and Spartan blades... So? The materials, if turns out to be TRUE, then there will be no difference in material to my Three Sister's Beast. M390, 6AL4V titanium... and then the remaining thing to check is the workmanship and functionality of the knife.
 
Quiet said:
How is this a huge issue? I mean, let's be candid. If this businessman, trying to start up a business, is discouraged out of doing so by several people here, on a webforum being frank with their preference for domestic (to them) market product, is that really our problem? We are a tiny portion of the knife-buying public. There are, and will always be plenty of Americans who don't care where their products are made, and don't care that our manufacturing base is gone for the most part. That's why Wal-Mart* is the number one company on the Fortune 500. So, why should this guy care what some of us think?



*Looooooove how my WMT shares have performed in the past ten years
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I absolutely agree to pretty much everything you say here. :D
 
the current logo looks almost like a mistake,with the last 2 letters separate from each other.otherwise the knife looks great.maybe the price can be worked down a little to a more affordable price.
 
TKB said:
I personally think that it is up to the maker to specify how much the price of his own creation will be, then those who don't want to buy it just shut up and continue with their own life. You haven't even touched it yet. You think anything made in China is cheap? Try those antique porcelain... then you will complain that some old bowl will cost you a fortune to get? And mind you: this is not a copy of ZT, doesn't even look like it.

Come on guys, let's NOT play politics here. Give him a chance. I am buying one myself, to test it out and give a fair trial to it. If it turns out to be a good knife, then $350 is fair. I mean, I even pay much more for my Hinderer, CRK and Spartan blades... So? The materials, if turns out to be TRUE, then there will be no difference in material to my Three Sister's Beast. M390, 6AL4V titanium... and then the remaining thing to check is the workmanship and functionality of the knife.
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Awesome, can't wait to hear your feedback.
 
TKB said:
I personally think that it is up to the maker to specify how much the price of his own creation will be, then those who don't want to buy it just shut up and continue with their own life. You haven't even touched it yet. You think anything made in China is cheap? Try those antique porcelain... then you will complain that some old bowl will cost you a fortune to get? And mind you: this is not a copy of ZT, doesn't even look like it.

Come on guys, let's NOT play politics here. Give him a chance. I am buying one myself, to test it out and give a fair trial to it. If it turns out to be a good knife, then $350 is fair. I mean, I even pay much more for my Hinderer, CRK and Spartan blades... So? The materials, if turns out to be TRUE, then there will be no difference in material to my Three Sister's Beast. M390, 6AL4V titanium... and then the remaining thing to check is the workmanship and functionality of the knife.
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Be sure and do an in depth review if you get one. I am actually looking pretty hard at the S35VN model, B I think. It looks to be a good sized knife, but trim. If you get one of them and the quality is there I might just pick one up. Lord knows I've paid a good bit more than their price for an American knife with the same materials.
 
TKB said:
I personally think that it is up to the maker to specify how much the price of his own creation will be, then those who don't want to buy it just shut up and continue with their own life. You haven't even touched it yet. You think anything made in China is cheap? Try those antique porcelain... then you will complain that some old bowl will cost you a fortune to get? And mind you: this is not a copy of ZT, doesn't even look like it.

Come on guys, let's NOT play politics here. Give him a chance. I am buying one myself, to test it out and give a fair trial to it. If it turns out to be a good knife, then $350 is fair. I mean, I even pay much more for my Hinderer, CRK and Spartan blades... So? The materials, if turns out to be TRUE, then there will be no difference in material to my Three Sister's Beast. M390, 6AL4V titanium... and then the remaining thing to check is the workmanship and functionality of the knife.
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Thank you very much for TKB trust and support.
 
Bigfatts said:
Be sure and do an in depth review if you get one. I am actually looking pretty hard at the S35VN model, B I think. It looks to be a good sized knife, but trim. If you get one of them and the quality is there I might just pick one up. Lord knows I've paid a good bit more than their price for an American knife with the same materials.
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I will try my best to make a fair and unbiased review once I get it, no worries. And I will post it here as well, with pictures, and if possible, with video.
 
spydercobenchmadekai said:
Because there will never be another one like it. It is one of a kind. You don't make prototypes of custom knives. Because each true cutom IS a prototype, as there are never more than one.
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- How would you classify knife like the CQC-6 by Emerson? How about any of the other knives that he personally makes based on his production models?
 
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