How public are you with your knives?

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I have not been carrying knives long maybe 6 months now and have had separate cases were people didn't think carrying a "weapon" with me was necessary. The worst incident was at my work. A Guy and his Wife said that people that need to carry knives or guns with them only do it because they live in fear. And another time at the bank a lady told me weapons should not be brought on private property. 2 incidents is not a ridiculous amount but seems high for the little amount of time I have been carrying knives.
I usually wear dress pants and button up shirts so maybe seeing a knife on me looks out of place ?

Oh and don't get me started on the time I wore a "Black Rifles matter"shirt to go workout in. That was one heck of a morning at the YMCA!!


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Haha now I just use it to do yard work.

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Freaking awesome shirt!
 
I have not been carrying knives long maybe 6 months now and have had separate cases were people didn't think carrying a "weapon" with me was necessary. The worst incident was at my work. A Guy and his Wife said that people that need to carry knives or guns with them only do it because they live in fear. And another time at the bank a lady told me weapons should not be brought on private property. 2 incidents is not a ridiculous amount but seems high for the little amount of time I have been carrying knives.
I usually wear dress pants and button up shirts so maybe seeing a knife on me looks out of place ?

Oh and don't get me started on the time I wore a "Black Rifles matter"shirt to go workout in. That was one heck of a morning at the YMCA!!


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Saw one today stating
"Red Wines Matter"
 
Freaking awesome shirt!

Lol thanks brother unfortunately none of the liberals in this state thought the same. A friend even told me I came off as racist wearing this shirt . I told him I believe protecting our 2nd amendment is a way bigger concern then the black lives matters movement. that went over like a lead ballon.


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By what criteria do we come up with "legal" speed limits? It's the same basic principle.

The answer for speed limits is both arbitrary and common sense.

Sorry, speed limits are neither arbitrary or common sense or to "make you feel safe".

They are set based on road design. The 55 mph limit was designated back in the 70s gas crunch as it was determined to offer the best mpg at the time, even though the interstates were designed for a vehicle traveling at 70 mph.

So please don't extrapolate highway design into your new PC blade length rules.

I also live in Washington State. I'm very public with my knife usage, as is everyone in my community. Balisongs and Automatics are illegal here, but I'm working on that as we speak. Needless to say, we don't carry those, but you'll find no problem packing your choice of legal cutting implement.

I feel safer around a guy with a knife than I do around a guy smoking a Marlboro.
 
Lol thanks brother unfortunately none of the liberals in this state thought the same. A friend even told me I came off as racist wearing this shirt . I told him I believe protecting our 2nd amendment is a way bigger concern then the black lives matters movement. that went over like a lead ballon.


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It really is sad how foolish people are, wear that shirt with pride. If I had one I would!

Glad to see someone else who feels as I do. :thumbup:
 
It really is sad how foolish people are, wear that shirt with pride. If I had one I would!

Glad to see someone else who feels as I do. [emoji106]
Greg Medford sells "black knives matter" shirts on his website 😁

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By what criteria do we come up with "legal" speed limits? It's the same basic principle.

The answer for speed limits is both arbitrary and common sense. 65mph is generally legal on highways and 66mph is generally not (there are exceptions, but you get the point). I generally break the legal speed limit every time I drive on the highway. I bet you do too. Usually I drive between 70 and 75. But this doesn't mean that there should be no speed limit. Speed limits let the cops selectively enforce the law and this keeps speeds manageably safe. Weaving in and out at 70mph will get you busted. Driving at 80mph will often get you busted. We all live with this.

The most common length restriction on knives that I've encountered or read about is a 3" limit for general carry in public. That's a bummer for me since I prefer blades in the 3.5" range but then, I find 55mph speed limits on some hiways to be a bummer since I prefer to drive 70.

But, I accept the need for some roads to have a lower speed limit and I accept the need for some higher crime municipalities to have blade length restrictions.

And finally and painfully trying to get this back on on-topic, I let these laws inform my behavior. I don't drive 70 in a school zone just like I don't carry a knife into a courthouse or school. I'm very careful when I drive 70 in a 55 zone (and I do, just like you do) just like I'm more careful when I carry a 3.5" bladed knife in a place with a 3" limit. And I don't clean my fingernails with a legal knife while sitting on a park bench even though it's legal just like I don't cut people off or tailgate in my car because while legal, this is just acting like a jerk. It upsets people needlessly. And lastly, when somebody cuts me off needlessly, I honk at them to let them know they're being a jerk. I don't worry about upsetting people who feel it's their right to be jerks in public.

I hate to correct you on everything you think you know but no. Just no. Speed limits were set, here and overseas on several criteria. The most important being the average breaking distance and road conditions, human reaction time. While road conditions and the average breaking distance of cars has improved Tenfold, most speed limits have stayed the same. Go figure. There are no corroborating facts to back up your knife inch limit. Cleaning your fingernails both a battle mistress may offend someone, but it does not ENDANGER anyone. Your comparison to the speed limit exposes the lack of foundation in your argument. Offended. I love it. I love that people think that there personal discomfort is somehow grounds to ban things. Let's ban words that offend. Let's ban any gun that's black. Let's ban knives based on length. Let's ban free thought as well. Let's ban drugs and start a trillion dollar industry. Someday perhaps people will address the actual problems and treat people like adults and forward progress will be made. Until then people who have no actual clue will attack objects and words like the are the offender.
 
I have not been carrying knives long maybe 6 months now and have had separate cases were people didn't think carrying a "weapon" with me was necessary. The worst incident was at my work. A Guy and his Wife said that people that need to carry knives or guns with them only do it because they live in fear. And another time at the bank a lady told me weapons should not be brought on private property. 2 incidents is not a ridiculous amount but seems high for the little amount of time I have been carrying knives.
I usually wear dress pants and button up shirts so maybe seeing a knife on me looks out of place ?

Oh and don't get me started on the time I wore a "Black Rifles matter"shirt to go workout in. That was one heck of a morning at the YMCA!!


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It may very well have been a bit jarring to see a white-collar-looking guy sporting a knife with his dress suit, whereas my blue-collar cargo pants/polo shirt may just give a vibe where a knife is more normal to see on a person wearing such garb.

I do also have a habit of dropping my knives all the way into my pockets when in places like a bank where knives could be more threatening due to the atmosphere, but otherwise I carry like normal everywhere else. Work doesn't seem to mind, but I'm a shipping/receiving guy, a knife is an everyday item for me.
 
It really is sad how foolish people are, wear that shirt with pride. If I had one I would!

Glad to see someone else who feels as I do. :thumbup:

I moved here from Idaho where it's a Red state ,right wing ,and that shirt would have been fine in Idaho. Not here though try wearing a trump shirt downtown Seattle..good luck!! And don't get me wrong I love this State and never plan on moving have all my family here,an awesome church, and a business I love but it's hard sometimes with all the liberal bull crap that goes on.


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.....The answer is simple and obvious - Knives are designed for cutting and stabbing and are, by virtue of this design, more effective weapons (in nearly all situations) than blunt objects are. (And handguns, per the stats and by design are more effective than knives). As knife enthusiasts, we all know this already when we consider martial/tactical/self-defense uses of knives. Knives are weapons and some knives are more effective weapons than others, primarily due to blade length......

What a load of sophistic bovine excrement.

Like I've said before, knifes are not weapons unless they are used in an offensive or defensive manner. Period. They are tools. Looking at knives as anything more is an assumption on your part. In doing so, you effectively remove the intent and morals of the owner and insert your own feelings instead. Politicians do it all the time. That is how we end up with badly written laws that punish the law abiding citizen and have no real effect upon criminals or crime.

Sure, knives can be used as weapons. What's your point? So can my wife's cast iron skillet or my neighbor's Louisville Slugger. If his bat is made from aluminum, is it more of a weapon than if it's made of wood? Of course not. Would it make a better weapon? Yes, but that, in itself, does not make it a weapon. Only with action by the owner does something become a weapon.

Let's talk about the term "weapon" for a moment. The defensive aspects of the term seem to all but be ignored. Media and lawmakers both know this and use it against us. Why is it that most people (myself included) first jump to the conclusion that a weapon is something offensive? Maybe this is why we have so many sheeple, now days.
 
What a load of sophistic bovine excrement.

Like I've said before, knifes are not weapons unless they are used in an offensive or defensive manner. Period. They are tools. Looking at knives as anything more is an assumption on your part. In doing so, you effectively remove the intent and morals of the owner and insert your own feelings instead. Politicians do it all the time. That is how we end up with badly written laws that punish the law abiding citizen and have no real effect upon criminals or crime.

Sure, knives can be used as weapons. What's your point? So can my wife's cast iron skillet or my neighbor's Louisville Slugger. If his bat is made from aluminum, is it more of a weapon than if it's made of wood? Of course not. Would it make a better weapon? Yes, but that, in itself, does not make it a weapon. Only with action by the owner does something become a weapon.

Let's talk about the term "weapon" for a moment. The defensive aspects of the term seem to all but be ignored. Media and lawmakers both know this and use it against us. Why is it that most people (myself included) first jump to the conclusion that a weapon is something offensive? Maybe this is why we have so many sheeple, now days.
We needs a "like" button on this forum for posts such as this lol

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Ever wake up in a cold sweat from a nightmare only able to remember a single phrase from the ordeal?

"Common sense knife control."
*Shudders*

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What a load of sophistic bovine excrement.

Like I've said before, knifes are not weapons unless they are used in an offensive or defensive manner. Period. They are tools. Looking at knives as anything more is an assumption on your part. In doing so, you effectively remove the intent and morals of the owner and insert your own feelings instead. Politicians do it all the time. That is how we end up with badly written laws that punish the law abiding citizen and have no real effect upon criminals or crime.

Sure, knives can be used as weapons. What's your point? So can my wife's cast iron skillet or my neighbor's Louisville Slugger. If his bat is made from aluminum, is it more of a weapon than if it's made of wood? Of course not. Would it make a better weapon? Yes, but that, in itself, does not make it a weapon. Only with action by the owner does something become a weapon.

Let's talk about the term "weapon" for a moment. The defensive aspects of the term seem to all but be ignored. Media and lawmakers both know this and use it against us. Why is it that most people (myself included) first jump to the conclusion that a weapon is something offensive? Maybe this is why we have so many sheeple, now days.

The mind is the only weapon. Everything else is just a tool. Make sure you use the right tool for the right job. A large, metal flashlight is a much better tool for self defense than a knife. A taser's even better than that. A gun's better than a taser. I could go on, but I think I've made my point. Let's start a petition to ban large metal flashlights such as the original Mag-Lite
 
What a load of sophistic bovine excrement.

Like I've said before, knifes are not weapons unless they are used in an offensive or defensive manner. Period. They are tools. Looking at knives as anything more is an assumption on your part. In doing so, you effectively remove the intent and morals of the owner and insert your own feelings instead. Politicians do it all the time. That is how we end up with badly written laws that punish the law abiding citizen and have no real effect upon criminals or crime.

Sure, knives can be used as weapons. What's your point? So can my wife's cast iron skillet or my neighbor's Louisville Slugger. If his bat is made from aluminum, is it more of a weapon than if it's made of wood? Of course not. Would it make a better weapon? Yes, but that, in itself, does not make it a weapon. Only with action by the owner does something become a weapon.

Let's talk about the term "weapon" for a moment. The defensive aspects of the term seem to all but be ignored. Media and lawmakers both know this and use it against us. Why is it that most people (myself included) first jump to the conclusion that a weapon is something offensive? Maybe this is why we have so many sheeple, now days.

Agree plus 1,000,000,000,000,000,000


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I've never judged the threat or lethal potential of a knife by it's size. I've known guys who could easily kill you with a blade pulled from a disposable razor embedded in the head of a melted toothbrush.

I'm not worried about the knife I can see as much as the knife I can't see, particularly if the person holding/concealing the knife intends to use it, and knows how to use it.

In the right hands a 1" blade can be devastatingly lethal. But a 10" blade isn't going to increase the skill of the person carrying it just because of it's size.



And one more thing- this thread needs more toad.
 
[...]In the right hands a 1" blade can be devastatingly lethal. But a 10" blade isn't going to increase the skill of the person carrying it just because of it's size.[...]

So you're saying... It's not the size that counts, its how you use it?

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What a load of sophistic bovine excrement.

Like I've said before, knifes are not weapons unless they are used in an offensive or defensive manner. Period. They are tools. Looking at knives as anything more is an assumption on your part. In doing so, you effectively remove the intent and morals of the owner and insert your own feelings instead. Politicians do it all the time. That is how we end up with badly written laws that punish the law abiding citizen and have no real effect upon criminals or crime.

Sure, knives can be used as weapons. What's your point? So can my wife's cast iron skillet or my neighbor's Louisville Slugger. If his bat is made from aluminum, is it more of a weapon than if it's made of wood? Of course not. Would it make a better weapon? Yes, but that, in itself, does not make it a weapon. Only with action by the owner does something become a weapon.

Let's talk about the term "weapon" for a moment. The defensive aspects of the term seem to all but be ignored. Media and lawmakers both know this and use it against us. Why is it that most people (myself included) first jump to the conclusion that a weapon is something offensive? Maybe this is why we have so many sheeple, now days.
In regards to the bold parts, I think you're position is more a matter of personal philosophy rather than real-world reality.

Philosophically it could be said that a gun/knife/frying pan is not a weapon unless and until someone USES it to harm another person. But the fact is, many items have been designed specifically as weapons, and many items are specifically defined as weapons in the law.

As far as knives, the Gerber Mark 2, and the Fairbairn/Sykes dagger, aren't exactly "utility" knives. Just to name a few.

And then there are items like brass knuckles (and knuckle knives). It's hard to argue that those have any use other than as weapons.

And although I consider many anti-knife laws to be stupid, the fact is- how we define a knife (weapon or tool) means absolutely nothing to the cop who arrests you, or the prosecutor who files charges against you, if the written law considers your knife to be a weapon. If the law says a knife is a weapon, and if it's against the law to carry or possess that knife, then that's all it takes to send a person to jail, where they can then explain to their fellow inmates at length, and over many months, how a knife isn't a weapon, it's a tool.

There is the way we want things to be, and then there is the way things are. And unfortunately here in the US, as well as many other countries, knives are often defined as weapons by the law. And you ain't gonna beat the law with a philosophy.
 
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