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on_the_edge said:
In a flipping scenario, the "idiot" (your word) changes depending upon your perspective. Is the idiot the manufacturer who has their knives priced below what the market will bear? If a flipper can sell a knife one week after its release for double the original price, shouldn't the manufacturer think about raising their price? What about the retail seller? Same questions. Aren't they the "idiot" because they sell a limited edition knife for $155 to public consumers when they could get a lot more? Then there are the flippers, buying multiples of the same knives only to turn around and charge significantly over the price they purchased the knives at. Idiotic behavior? Finally, there is the secondary market buyer who buys one from the flipper. Do you think maybe the flipper thinks his buyer is an idiot for paying such an exorbitant price? I guess I am saying that I understand your point, but respectfully feel you are grasping at straws here.

I know that there are many issues that are difficult to resolve with flippers--what exactly constitutes flipping? An objective definition requires more than some vague inclusion of timing, price, how many knives are involved, who is selling, etc. It's tough stuff and not easy to define. I do not pretend to have the answer. Nevertheless, ignoring problems because their solution, if one exists, is difficult is taking the easy road. Closing one's eyes to something or looking the other direction does not make it go away. The notion that obvious flippers will simply go elsewhere, which some have stated, does not mean that they should be allowed here.
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I understand and you make a great point.

Let me reduce things to the lowest common denominator for everyone....

I have too much regulation in my life already...

please, please, PLEEEAASEE give up the "I'm here to help/protect you from something you didn't know you needed help with!" act....

it's insulting to me.

You know what? BF has a dedicated area where members are free to exercise their liberty to go get insulted-- if that's what melts their butter...

And another tidbit that won't get shared here in the general forums>>>

BF already has a dedicated Flipper thread. Yup...they sit around and name Flippers over there all the live long day.

But it's not good enough that they have the liberty to do whatever they want in their litterbox and name whoever they want.

Why? Why shinyedges shinyedges do we need ANOTHER flipper thread?
 
PeteyTwoPointOne said:
I understand and you make a great point.

Let me reduce things to the lowest common denominator for everyone....

I have too much regulation in my life already...

please, please, PLEEEAASEE give up the "I'm here to help/protect you from something you didn't know you needed help with!" act....

it's insulting to me.

You know what? BF has a dedicated area where members are free to exercise their liberty to go get insulted-- if that's what melts their butter...

And another tidbit that won't get shared>>>BF already has a dedicated Flipper thread. Yup...they sit around and name Flippers over there all the live long day.

But it's not good enough that they have the liberty to do whatever they want in their litterbox and name whoever they want.

Why?
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Have you sold more than 5 of the same knife in all those transactions? I think more scrutiny for our flipper friend here is in order.
 
Rather then trying to name "Flippers", it may be simpler to start a thread that educates buyers about the knives that are being sold at extreme prices.
I don't even know which they are, but I'm guessing that there are only a very limited amount of manufacturers in question.
They must be: Spyderco Sprint runs, Benchmade limited Balisongs, GEC traditionals, and what else?
 
shinyedges said:
Have you sold more than 5 of the same knife in all those transactions? I think more scrutiny for our flipper friend here is in order.
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#1. Are you a card-carrying flipper social justice warrior or do you subcontract out these jobs?

#2. Nitpick my sales threads, have at it-- you do fit the profile of the nosy neighbor type, so you'll probably enjoy it. They're there for the members to see, without redacted prices, I'll add. I abide by the rules, if I hadn't I'd already been splashed. You're taking a lot on yourself by assuming I'm getting away with something. Again, fits a profile of someone who THINKS they know everyone's business better than they do themselves.

#3. I've bought WAY MORE knives than I've sold...many of which I currently own, collect, and/or fondle.
 
PeteyTwoPointOne said:
#1. Are you a card-carrying flipper social justice warrior or do you subcontract out these jobs?

#2. Nitpick my sales threads, have at it-- you do fit the profile of the nosy neighbor type, so you'll probably enjoy it. They're there for the members to see, without redacted prices, I'll add. I abide by the rules, if I hadn't I'd already been splashed. You're taking a lot on yourself by assuming I'm getting away with something. Again, fits a profile of someone who THINKS they know everyone's business better than they do themselves.

#3. I've bought WAY MORE knives than I've sold...many of which I currently own, collect, and/or fondle.
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Lol.. those capital letters hurt my ears. Touched a nerve I see. :thumbsup:

Incoming "no, no you didn't touch a nerve!!" :thumbsup:

Right!!!

Remember, keep your political crap out of the general forums and keep in mind your rights in a private forum are what the owner says. :)

Don't worry, though I'm sure you'll get all the scrutiny you'd like from now on from way more than just me :D
 
I can't definitively pin down a 100% qualitative description of what a "flipper" is, but I do know that every time a limited release, or hot new knife that's sold out in minutes drops, and the very next day, there are suddenly a bunch of posts in the Exchange for that knife? Yeah, I begin to get a really good idea. What I find laughable is all the garbage "Catch and release, just wasn't for me!" and "Some unexpected bills suddenly came up totally unexpectedly two days after I somehow had the money for the multiples of this limited run knife I bought!" posts along with a $50-$80 markup, and the idiotic "F&F or you pay my fees because I'm a d-bag who likes to defraud Paypal." or "NET to me because I am a low IQ individual who's bad at math AND I am a d-bag who likes to defraud Paypal" is always a surefire way to tell who's who.
 
shinyedges said:
Lol.. those capital letters hurt my ears. Touched a nerve I see. :thumbsup:

Incoming "no, no you didn't touch a nerve!!" :thumbsup:

Right!!!

Remember, keep your political crap out of the general forums and keep in mind your rights in a private forum are what the owner says. :)

Don't worry, though I'm sure you'll get all the scrutiny you'd like from now on from way more than just me :D
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You have all the answers, it's true and totally obvious to everyone here.

I type in all caps to help with COMPREHENSION by adding EMPHASIS, not show anger. I see they caught your eye...objective reached.

And again, I understand how the forum runs and who owns it. And it's not you the last time I checked, right?

Your attempts at trying to label my posts as "political" sound desperate.

Quit launching personal insults at me and trying to lay red herrings all over my profile, and address <at least a few of> the issues I raised, like:

#1. What's better than my own personal responsibility and judgment in deciding who I want to do a deal with?

#2. Can you see how the party considered the "victim" in a flipped deal could be at least self-conscious of being noted in a bad deal...or at worst, be humiliated?

#3. Why do we need ANOTHER flipper thread on BF?
 
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PeteyTwoPointOne said:
You have all the answers, it's true and totally obvious to everyone here.

I type in all caps to help with COMPREHENSION by adding EMPHASIS, not show anger. I see they caught your eye...objective reached.

And again, I understand how the forum runs and who owns it. And it's not you the last time I checked, right?

Quit launching personal insults at me and trying to lay red herrings all over my profile, and address <at least a few of> the issues I raised, like:

#1. What's better than my own personal responsibility and judgment in deciding who I want to do a deal with?

#2. Can you how the party considered the "victim" in a flipped deal could be at least self-conscious of being noted in a bad deal...or at worst, be humiliated?

#3. Why do we need ANOTHER flipper thread on BF?
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I'm curious, why DON'T we need another flipper thread on BF? Are you charged by the folks who own and run this forum with monitoring bandwidth? No?

Huh, odd, that.
 
Quiet said:
I'm curious, why DON'T we need another flipper thread on BF? Are you charged by the folks who own and run this forum with monitoring bandwidth? No?

Huh, odd, that.
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You do know how bookmarks & pins work, right?

and who are you? shiny's lawyer?
 
PeteyTwoPointOne said:
You do know how bookmarks & pins work, right?

and who are you? shiny's lawyer?
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Huh, looks like the majority of posts you've started have been in sales sections.

There's something going on right in front of me, the evidence is all here but (snaps fingers) damned if I can put my finger on it.
 
PeteyTwoPointOne said:
I reserve the right to protect myself from fools spamming my listings, true...but if that's the best ya got its weaksauce.

Stick to the topic...let's keep the personal attacks in the correct sub...agreed?
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The hell does that mean? I have no dog in this fight, but they just pointed out that you are not accurate in your claims, and your explanation makes no sense.
Pete2.1 - "I leave all my sales threads intact."
Trev - "What about this one where everything is gone?"
Pete2.1 - "Well, not that one, because, mumble, mumble, reasons. What else you got?"
 
PeteyTwoPointOne said:
You have all the answers, it's true and totally obvious to everyone here.

I type in all caps to help with COMPREHENSION by adding EMPHASIS, not show anger. I see they caught your eye...objective reached.

And again, I understand how the forum runs and who owns it. And it's not you the last time I checked, right?

You're attempts at trying to label my posts as "political" sound desperate.

Quit launching personal insults at me and trying to lay red herrings all over my profile, and address <at least a few of> the issues I raised, like:

#1. What's better than my own personal responsibility and judgment in deciding who I want to do a deal with?

#2. Can you how the party considered the "victim" in a flipped deal could be at least self-conscious of being noted in a bad deal...or at worst, be humiliated?

#3. Why do we need ANOTHER flipper thread on BF?
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The irony of the flipper here arguing against naming who the flippers are.... Keep going:thumbsup:

Hell, if only we are so luck, all the flippers flock to vote against the naming flippers thread and out themselves LOL
 
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