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jonshoup said:
Sounds like Mick Strider might be the only man alive that can sling bull&h!t as well as Lynn Thompson. They're both a couple of windbags in my opinion. But Lynn makes killer fixed blades and it appears Mickey's folders are top shelf. So as long as neither of them are funding terrorism it doesn't bother me much.
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I think Lynn would be better served by worrying about the hole left in his product line with the end of Carbon V. This whole Strider spat is infantile, and only serves to showcase those wanna-be-mall-ninjas, who buy into fantasies rather then knives.

n2s
 
n00b3r said:
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Who made this knife?
The reason I do an edge-only quench type Heat-Treatment is to stay far away from a knife that will fail like this.

A knife that fails in the field like this should be a lesson to us knife makers.

What type of steel and HT did this knife have?
 
Allan Molstad said:
Who made this knife?
The reason I do an edge-only quench type Heat-Treatment is to stay far away from a knife that will fail like this.

A knife that fails in the field like this should be a lesson to us knife makers.

What type of steel and HT did this knife have?
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To answer your question Mr. Molstad, (without unnecessary sarcarsm), that knife was a Cold Steel knife, made (or not so much made) by Mr. Lynn C. Thompson. Those knives (according to his site) are the best of the best and the toughest of the toughest.

No idea about the steel or heat treat, but rest assured it is probably the best $5.00 could buy in Taiwann.

These are not high end knives. They are at a price point that any 12 year old with a decent allowance could buy. There is no reason to think that they should hold up to any kind of rigorous standards, as such, no matter how they may be marketed.

Of course I need to now state that this is my opinion only, so I wont wake up to a process server tomorrow morning. :rolleyes:
Take care,

m1
 
Michelle said:
To answer your question Mr. Molstad, (without unnecessary sarcarsm), that knife was a Cold Steel knife, made (or not so much made) by Mr. Lynn C. Thompson. Those knives (according to his site) are the best of the best and the toughest of the toughest.

No idea about the steel or heat treat, but rest assured it is probably the best $5.00 could buy in Taiwann.

These are not high end knives. They are at a price point that any 12 year old with a decent allowance could buy. There is no reason to think that they should hold up to any kind of rigorous standards, as such, no matter how they may be marketed.

Of course I need to now state that this is my opinion only, so I wont wake up to a process server tomorrow morning. :rolleyes:
Take care,

m1
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The knife that is pictured (picture taken from a post a year or more back) is a Cold Steel Recon Scout, which was USA made (by Camillus) out of Carbon V steel. Cold Steel states they have a proprietary heat treat, which is a closely guarded trade secret. If you say you are going to answer a person's question, "without unnecessary sarcasm," you should try to do just that. FYI, I'm not in any way defending Cold Steel. I'm just doing what you didn't do, actually answering the man's question.

Regards,
3G
 
It's a Recon? I thought it was CS's newest folder :-/

Cheap shot jokes aside, I always thought CS knives were made in China. Thanks for clearing that up for me 3g.
 
n00b3r said:
It's a Recon? I thought it was CS's newest folder :-/
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LOL:D It's a folder now for sure!

n00b3r said:
Cheap shot jokes aside, I always thought CS knives were made in China. Thanks for clearing that up for me 3g.
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No problem, n00b3r. Actually, I don't think it was until this year that CS made the move to China. In recent years they appear to have moved some of their production from Japan to Taiwan, but have always had a portion of their production here in the USA. With Camillus now out of the picture, I don't think we'll be seeing any "Made in USA" Cold Steel pieces. I do think we'll be seeing a whole lot more "Made in China" Cold Steel pieces though. They have never been my cup of tea, and they certainly aren't now.
 
3Guardsmen said:
The knife that is pictured (picture taken from a post a year or more back) is a Cold Steel Recon Scout, which was USA made (by Camillus) out of Carbon V steel. Cold Steel states they have a proprietary heat treat, which is a closely guarded trade secret. If you say you are going to answer a person's question, "without unnecessary sarcasm," you should try to do just that. FYI, I'm not in any way defending Cold Steel. I'm just doing what you didn't do, actually answering the man's question.

Regards,
3G
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Either way you slice it, No pun intended, It is still a piece of crap knife. In addition I thought Stress Riser was when your crap wagon knife broke in the middle of bum fuck nowhere and your Stress starting rising cause you were just plain rat fucked by your $30 dollar shit pile knife imported by Fat Bastard who was more interested in his next Buckets of KFC then your well being. No offense meant! Just a observation.

Buy a real knife!

I HERE BY CALL FOR A BOYCOTT OF ALL COLD STEEL PRODUCTS UNTILL LT LOSES AT LEAST 200 POUNDS OF EXTRA WEIGHT! IN ADDITION UNTIL HE MAKES A QAULITY PRODUCT THAT IS WORTH MORE THAN JUST ITS WEIGHT IN STEEL. BELIEVE ME I KNOW HOW THIS CRAP IS WHOLESALED AND IT IS BUY THE POUND NOT BY THE KNIFE. ARE YOU WILLING TO RISK YOUR LIFE OR MAYBE A LOVED ONES BY BUYING CHINESE POT METAL AT OUTRAGES MARK UP SO SOME OVERWIEGHT CHEESE GOBBLER CAN EAT SOME MORE BUCKETS OF CHICKENS? GO AHEAD! I WOULD RATHER SURRENDER TO SOME HAJI TERRORIST AND BE BEHEADED THAN BUY A POT METAL CRACKER FROM COLD STEEL. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

SPARK, I SALUTE YOU FOR MAKING THE WORLD RIGHT AND DEFENDING TRUTH AS THE INTERNET KNOWS IT. THE WORLD IS SET RIGHT NOW, AND FOR THAT I CAN SLEEP BETTER! KNOWING THAT YOU SUPPORT PUTTING CRAPSTER KNIVES IN THE HANDS OF GOOD OLD AMERICANS! WHY SUPPORT A AMERICAN COMPANY LIKE STRIDER WHEN YOU CAN JOIN THE FIGHT WITH CHINESE IMPORTS AND COLD STEEL! MAN YOU ARE ONE BRAVE MAN. ARE YOU ON THE COMMUNIST LT IMPORT PAYROLL???? LONG LIVE CHINESE CRAP! LT IS A GREAT GUY! NEVER MADE A KNIFE IN HIS LIFE BUT A HELL OF AN IMPORTER! LONG LIVE CHINA!!!! COLD STEEL IS THE WALMART OF THE KNIFE WORLD. YES THATS RIGHT THE WALMART. BUT WE ALL LIKE WALLMART AT THE CHECK OUT COUNTER, BUT A COUPLE WEEKS LATER IS WHEN WE FEEL LIKE WE GOT IT HARD IN THE ASS, THE PRODUCT WAS NOT WORTH THE SAVINGS. COLD STEEL IS PURE CRAP, DONT TAKE IT IN THE ASS!

BUY FROM AN AMERICAN COMPANY THAT STANDS BEHIND THERE PRODUCT! MADE BY AMERICANS FOR AMERICANS. BUY MADE IN AMERICA, WHATEVER COMPANY YOU CHOOSE. COLD STEEL IS AN IMPORTER, BOYCOTT ALL COLDSTEEL PRODUCTS.

THANKS AND MAY GOD BLESS AMERICA.

I LOVE THIS PLACE!:D
 
That's a whole lot of hypocrisy in one post. I think I just strained my eyes from all the rolling, oh my ocular trauma. Then again, why should I be suprised that WORKER #9 has chosen to return after telling us so many times he wouldn't be back. Here, let me help you find the door again sebbiemech / WORKER #9 / <next alias>

Please note, I've never made a suggestion what knives anyone should purchase in any of these threads. Indeed, I think my advice has always been: buy the best knife you can afford, and don't buy based on hype. Buying American is always a good idea. Past that, it's your money.
 
What a pants-load of utter nonsense. Somewhat less fascinating than Britney's haircut or TomKat's melt-down. I find it pretty damn hilarious that anyone takes either of these companies' marketing so seriously. I like SOME (very few in fact) CS knives but if I buy another, I think I will just steal it. At least that way Lynn won't get my money. (Yessssss, geniuses, I'm aware he will have already made his profit on it.) Since I'm not a fan of tactical folders, Mr. Strider is irrelevant to me; but if I was into that sort of thing I'd be pretty annoyed at what a poser he is.

I still say Lynn and Mick should just start dating and leave the rest of the world out of their BS.

Then again, maybe I should take my lessons from both of them... gain 100#, let fly my secret past of black ops and edged-assassinations for "street-cred", purchase a boatload of dirt cheap knives and make videos of me cutting cardboard with them. Obviously there's a huge market for that sort of thing.
 
What???? There's no truth in advertising??? Just goes to show that most people are a marketing agent's wet dream. Let the butt-hurt continue.
 
n00b3r said:
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When you look at this knife, (except for the part about being in 3 parts now) it looks like it was a great knife.
I mean, the steel looks about over a 1/4 " thick.
And the handle looks like it was a nice color too.
and the blade is all nice and pointy.

Now a while back this winter a lot of guys jumped all over me for doing an "edge quench" when they felt that the only way to go was to do a full quench...

well Im not married to the edge quench.
I do experiments with different ways to bring out the best in my blades.
But one of the main things Im attempting to get away from is the way a knife will fail as in this photo.

Im sure that there could have been a lot more going wrong with this blade in the photo becides the Heat-treatments. But I still believe that of all the ways I can use to get away from any chance at all of one of my own knives fails like this here junky knife, the edge-only quench is worth the time to try.

I would never want one of my knives to fail like this, (Lets fase it, the way this photo pops up here means this one image will forever be connected to the maker's name) and my bladesmithing is aimed at making a knife for the field that will not so fail.
 
I stopped reading Lyn Thompsons Rants after the whole Two page anti Busse rant in a special projects catalog like ten years Ago. :jerkit:

I like some Cold steel Knives for what they are, Relativley Inexpensive users. The serrations on his folders are also Very cool. :)

But I think that any Knife maker that has too attack other knifemakers cheapens
themselves :mad: especially when they then copy the knife in the same catolog!

I also think its sad that strider Felt the need to fabricate a past to sell his knives. I would buy a quality knife made by an ex-con, just as I wouldnt buy a crap knife made by a choir boy.

I know jack S**t about the military backgrounds of the folks from Busse, Chris Reeve, Bark river, or any of a hundred other makers of quality knives, nor do I care, If they make a good knife thats all that should matter.
 
Allan Molstad said:
When you look at this knife, (except for the part about being in 3 parts now) it looks like it was a great knife.
I mean, the steel looks about over a 1/4 " thick.
And the handle looks like it was a nice color too.
and the blade is all nice and pointy.

Now a while back this winter a lot of guys jumped all over me for doing an "edge quench" when they felt that the only way to go was to do a full quench...

well Im not married to the edge quench.
I do experiments with different ways to bring out the best in my blades.
But one of the main things Im attempting to get away from is the way a knife will fail as in this photo.

Im sure that there could have been a lot more going wrong with this blade in the photo becides the Heat-treatments. But I still believe that of all the ways I can use to get away from any chance at all of one of my own knives fails like this here junky knife, the edge-only quench is worth the time to try.

I would never want one of my knives to fail like this, (Lets fase it, the way this photo pops up here means this one image will forever be connected to the maker's name) and my bladesmithing is aimed at making a knife for the field that will not so fail.
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Allan, do you have a website where I can see your wares? It sounds like you are an experienced Maker and I would greatly enjoy seeing what you have to offer. Thank you........................
 
Ira,

Try googling DaQotah Forge.

Allan,

Differential hardening, aka edge-quenching, has its own failure-promoting hazards. There are some folks who work around those hazards by coating the spines of their blades with a more insulating clay and the edges of the blades with a less insulating clay to reduce those hazards.
 
3Guardsmen said:
The knife that is pictured (picture taken from a post a year or more back) is a Cold Steel Recon Scout, which was USA made (by Camillus) out of Carbon V steel. Cold Steel states they have a proprietary heat treat, which is a closely guarded trade secret. If you say you are going to answer a person's question, "without unnecessary sarcasm," you should try to do just that. FYI, I'm not in any way defending Cold Steel. I'm just doing what you didn't do, actually answering the man's question.

Regards,
3G
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You are 100% right and I stand corrected. You are also correct about my sarcasm. Apologies.

m1
 
PatriotDan said:
Spark, perhaps you missed my question on page 3.

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Spark, were you approached by Lynn Thomson to use your Strider material for the Cold Steel site? And did you agree to that?

Thank you.
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Nope, Lynn Thompson didn't approach me about that, but I don't care if he uses it or not as long as my words aren't twisted or misrepresented into something they aren't; like Michelle said I don't want to be hit by process servers. if I was concerned about people reading it I wouldn't have put it on the web on here; like I've said repeatedly I did a very careful job when I wrote it. EDIT: I also don't want to characterize this as my "Strider material" - all I did was take a bunch of information from all over the place and put it together in one spot. Saying it's mine implies like I feel that I deserve some credit for exposing this, I don't. I wasn't the first one asking questions and I won't be the last, POWNetwork apparrently had reports on him dating back to 2005.

Finally, It'd be foolish of me to think that anything like this was just going to stay on BFC, especially when it's been copied and pasted for weeks.

Also, for anyone interested it looks like POWNetwork has updated their Mick Strider page:
http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies313.htm
 
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