I think that you will find MORE servicemen and vets who think the other way. If you had read all of these things and believed them and still hold him in high esteem, then I am truly concerned for you. This is like the guy who puts on the bogus stripes and medals when he goes home on leave,but MANY times worse.
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Mick Strider has some explaining to do.
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I think that you will find MORE servicemen and vets who think the other way. If you had read all of these things and believed them and still hold him in high esteem, then I am truly concerned for you. This is like the guy who puts on the bogus stripes and medals when he goes home on leave,but MANY times worse.
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How very very interesting. So, as an active duty member of the armed services, exactly how many E1's that have been barred from reenlistment, with spinal injuries, have you seen running around performing Special Operations roles?
And as a followup question to you, as an active duty member of the armed services, what's your opinion on people who lie about being in combat?
I was just checking out another thread and I saw the term "Mogadishu Mick" Who came up with that little gem? LOL They deserve a prize.......how about a free coupon for a Mickey Burger, maybe? hee, hee Anyone want to surmise what the ingredients would be?
He must be very nice guy. Why? He has blinded so many people around him - built his entire career and business on lies and people still trust him. Just got back form reading the "I do not care what they say but need to comment anyway + you are the best Mike and fak them all" thread and obviously to many, his prison background and language is appealing. He could have ended this long time ago but the lies sell knives a lot better. It is only about money... Honor? Forget it. :barf:
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Well, I'm glad to meet the spokesperson for those other servicemen.
I knew Mr. Strider was a Ranger that was injured and then discharged. I knew that he had no combat experience as a Ranger.
To be honest, a few internet posts he made 5 years ago, that he retracted later in court, don't particularly interest me. And they CERTAINLY don't make me feel swindled by Strider Knives.
And how would this be "MANY times worse" than a person who wears fake medals on leave? Isn't that what you're accusing Mr. Strider of doing?
Obviously none. But I've met quite a few non-tabbed hellions at Regiment who would smack me in the nose if I ever inferred they weren't a Ranger.
He fucked up... period. He admitted to that in a court of law. I never denied he didn't.
I'm willing to overlook the mistakes he has made in the past because of the way he conducts himself TODAY. In the real, face-to-face world. From my experience, it is honorable.
Blue skies, Spark. It's far too late.
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Frankecast and Nousdefions are either of you guys tabbed?
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Mick Strider said:
I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he has a replica CMH framed on his office wall, and a Class A uniform with 10 rows of storebought medals in his closet at home.
These fake awards show that he is "authentic." :jerkit:
What is the life expectancy of someone in the Regiment if he doesn't attend and pass Ranger school in a reasonable amount of time? Maybe thingshave changed but my understanding was that the only reason that there are people in the Regiment who do not have the tab is because the Regiment wanted some time to train the young guys before subjecting them to the school so they would have a better chance of passing. You may be in the Regiment, but you are arguably only a Ranger while you are there. The tab is for life.
Let's stick to the facts, please.
The thing that makes Spark's initial presentation so powerful and so compelling is that it is rooted and grounded in facts -- not hearsay, not rummors. Each accusation is supported by apparently-credible, documentary evidence. There's no need to go making stuff up.
What's been presented is damning enough without making a bunch of stuff up. When you do that, you just dilute the effect of the original accusations.
If you want to joke around, then I'd suggest a thread in W&C.
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So, then his claims of being a combat vet, of switching his squad over to 7.62, and about charging a gunman with a knife, which I remind you are clearly quoted in this thread, do not strike you as being the mark of a liar?
Fair enough. What about a post he made 2 years ago? Or last year? Or less than a week ago?
I mean really, he claimed he was going to be sentenced to Somalia one week ago.
I fail to see what that has to do with anything? Did I make the claim he's wearing extra medals? Nope. I quoted that he's lying about his combat service and continues to do so. So, I'll ask you again, how do you feel about people who lie about their military careers to promote themselves?
I clearly state that I think he served in the 2/75. What I'd like to know right now is how long. Specifically what date did he arrive and when did he leave? Because having vast amounts of Special Operations experience and being a spinal damaged E1 with a shitty attitude do not reconcile.
Well, at least we agree on that.
Because this isn't the past - this is almost a week ago. Let's timeline it: Mick Strider gets injured, developes a shitty attitude and gets barred from re-enlistment, then gets out of the Army as an E1. Ok, that's a mistake, maybe he learned from it. (1986(
Whoops, nope, 6 years later he's carjacking someone. (1993) Ok, fuck it, that's a mistake too, he does 5 years in prison, he paid his dues. (1998)
Well, then he gets out of prison and lies about being a combat veteren. Ok, he's just joshing around there. (2000, 2001, 2002, and probably all the time since then)
Then he lies about having firearms (or is telling the truth, which is even scarier). Well geez, how can we hold that against him, he's really a good guy, why should we expect a convicted felon to inform us that he's actually not allowed by law to be around guns, or even knives when he's not making them. (2001, 2002)
Whoops, then he shits all over BFC for no reason and leaves "never to return" because he's too lazy to figure out the software. Ok, whatever. (2003)
Then he comes back to BFC to tell a customer to lick his sack. Ok, I guess never is subjective. (2005)
Then his past starts to come out and instead of owning up to it and taking the hit, he decides to try to lie his way out of it again. Shit man, I think he'll get it if we just give him another chance. (2005)
Then he talks smack about Chris Osman, who bitchslaps him with a lawsuit, where Mick actually has to admit he's been lying about his combat background, and that he's really not any sorts of Special Operations other than maybe the disinformation section of PSYOPS. Dude, if we give him one more chance! (2006)
Then he lies about being sentenced to Somalia, his arrest, who he rolls with, and everything else (2007).
Dude, seriously, how gullible are you?
Ok, so as long as he claims he was suppossed to get sentenced to Somalia a week ago, it's cool. As long as he hints of being a special operator brokedick E1 last week, it's fine and dandy. That's some honorable actions right there, man. Lying about your service record, getting called on it, getting sued, then lying about it some more is really honorable. Shit, why even put "morally straight" in the Ranger Creed bro! As long as you don't get caught today, it doesn't matter.
Well, goodnight guys, I need to go AWOL for a bit because I miss my girlfriend. Talk to you in the morning.
I can't belive people still defend Mick Strider. People that bought his product just dont want to say bad stuff because they have so much invested or their just brainwashed. The forums are full of posts like "yeah were so cool, we own really pimp knives!"
All I know is these poor bastards are paying over a thousand dollars for a fanticy folding knife. Then they go on some forum and call it a "score" and act like their lucky that they were suckered into buying this "custom" when theirs 50 others just like it somwehre else. Some people own 5-10 of these knives!!! and for what?
The SMF and SnG are good knives, but way over prices IMO, No knife that has milled parts should cost anywhere near that much.
A few days ago he goes and changes his warrenty around, then everyone still, STILL! backs him up.
I do own a SMF and its a great knife, the only thing that can hurt it is dust from your pocket. I feel that the RC is a good knife but again WAY WAY over priced and it seems hard to open with just the stud.
I wont buy any other strider knives, I prefer my Sebenza anyday to the SMF but the SMF is still a tough knife and I do give Thomas Dwyer credit for making such a great knife!
The new strider modo should be "Our only enemy are car alarms!":barf: :foot:
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All I know is these poor bastards are paying over a thousand dollars for a fanticy folding knife. Then they go on some forum and call it a "score" and act like their lucky that they were suckered into buying this "custom" when theirs 50 others just like it somwehre else. Some people own 5-10 of these knives!!! and for what?
The SMF and SnG are good knives, but way over prices IMO, No knife that has milled parts should cost anywhere near that much.
A few days ago he goes and changes his warrenty around, then everyone still, STILL! backs him up.
I do own a SMF and its a great knife, the only thing that can hurt it is dust from your pocket. I feel that the RC is a good knife but again WAY WAY over priced and it seems hard to open with just the stud.
I wont buy any other strider knives, I prefer my Sebenza anyday to the SMF but the SMF is still a tough knife and I do give Thomas Dwyer credit for making such a great knife!
The new strider modo should be "Our only enemy are car alarms!":barf: :foot:
/rant off!
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Your understanding is incorrect.
First, every non-NCO soldier that passes RIP goes through a continued, informal indoctrination phase at Regiment. These new Rangers will go to Ranger School anywhere from 8-12 months (and sometimes longer) after arriving at Regiment, but until then, they are cherries (not my term). Walking around Battalion wearing a Scroll and no tab is like having a bulls-eye on your forehead. I wouldn't want to be that guy. However, these cherries are absolutely, positively RANGERS.
Being Ranger QUALIFIED, i.e. having the tab, means a soldier has gone to Ranger School. Air Force personnel go to Ranger School. Non-Combat soldiers go to Ranger School. Earning the tab in no way, shape, or form equates to service with the 75th Ranger Regiment, or any other Special Operations organization.
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Hey Joe
,I direct your attention to post #32 in this thread. Not your exact words, but I think my idea is similar. It's hard to see, buried in so much bull plop since then.
It is nice to see Chief, a retired E9. I also saw an O6, but he bowed out after he became convinced of Striders dishonor and became disgusted at the continued support for Mickey.
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They strike me as the mark of an exaggerator using, at the time, a fancy new semi-anonymous tool known as the Internet Messageboard.
Funny thing, the internet. For all the stuff I've read on the internet, I've never once seen anyone approach the Strider booth at a show and ask about these issues in person.
As for the Somalia issue, neither you, I, or anyone else has any EVIDENCE he wasn't told that would occur. Perhaps he WAS told that was an option... I doubt he had the legal background to know otherwise. He never said he actually went.
I've spent far, FAR too much time discussing this already. Have fun with your internet games.
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