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Mick Strider has some explaining to do.
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I thought the topic of this thread was Mick Strider.
Not perceived quality or pricing of Strider Knives, not his business partners, not the buyers of Strider Knives and not a USN Forum bashing thread.
A moderator here on BF's asked more then once in the last 32 pages to keep this on topic. If you feel that strongly about the USN, then perhaps you should start a seperate thread.
Not perceived quality or pricing of Strider Knives, not his business partners, not the buyers of Strider Knives and not a USN Forum bashing thread.
A moderator here on BF's asked more then once in the last 32 pages to keep this on topic. If you feel that strongly about the USN, then perhaps you should start a seperate thread.
My feeling is that Mick was booted out under less than desirable conditions (dishonorable?) from the military. I do not consider that veteran status or prior service, nor do others I have talked to about this. I think the term for him is "shitbird".
He is a poser who has dug himself a deep hole at the bottom of Lake Stupid. Too deep to get himself out.
Honor? He doesn't know the meaning of it.
Ranger Creed? He wiped his ass with it.
He is a poser who has dug himself a deep hole at the bottom of Lake Stupid. Too deep to get himself out.
Honor? He doesn't know the meaning of it.
Ranger Creed? He wiped his ass with it.
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What are the rules on BladeForums.com?
This one I found interesting....
"First & foremost, remember the golden rule: Do unto others as you would have done unto yourself, in other words, BE NICE. When you are polite to people, they will tend to be polite back to you."
..........So now, bearing in mind who started this thread....The rules mean what?........
This one I found interesting....
"First & foremost, remember the golden rule: Do unto others as you would have done unto yourself, in other words, BE NICE. When you are polite to people, they will tend to be polite back to you."
..........So now, bearing in mind who started this thread....The rules mean what?........
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Kevin,
I know this is your forum and you run it the way you feel but what benefit are you going to get out of trying to destroy someone's name? I know he may have done and said bad things to you in the past. If I had a nickel for all the bad things people have said to me or may have said then I could probably afford any new knife I wanted. The bladeforums is a good place and I like it but I feel you are acting in a way that doesn't reflect well for you. Do not take this act a knock on your character because it is not intended for that.; erase the hate and move on.
I know this is your forum and you run it the way you feel but what benefit are you going to get out of trying to destroy someone's name? I know he may have done and said bad things to you in the past. If I had a nickel for all the bad things people have said to me or may have said then I could probably afford any new knife I wanted. The bladeforums is a good place and I like it but I feel you are acting in a way that doesn't reflect well for you. Do not take this act a knock on your character because it is not intended for that.; erase the hate and move on.
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What about being nice.......If the owner of a forum decides to start a witch hunt, doesn't that give free reign for any one to do like wise......is this how a forum should behave, discussion is one thing, harrasment and a determination to destroy someone proffesionally is another, how is this benefitting anyone who has an interest in collecting knives, except to show how petty the knife industry really is. The word evidence is capitalised, I've seen very little evidence, what I've seen and read is rumour mungouring, an attempt at a smear campaign....but I've seen no evidence.
Where does it end ,who will be next, some people here have already tried to implicate Mick Strider's business partner in some wrong doing.
If i decided I didn't like someone, is it allright to start a smear campaign on the internet on rumours and third hand information....is it right is it proper is it an honourable pastime....I hear a lot of talk about honour, I wonder if people realise that it's not very honourable to sit behind a keyboard trying to ruin someone , when this kind of thing should be done man to man.
Mark Lewis
Interesting, i don't think that anyone had questioned Duane's military record on here but it does strike me as being a bit strange that a law enforcement officer would choose to go into business with an ex con who had just completed a 5 year hitch in the federal joint for a violent felony.
First, if Strider's name is damaged, it is ultimately as a result of his conduct - not as a result of people being informed of his conduct.
Secondly, this is GB&U. Makers of questionable integrity telling lies to promote their knives is an entirely appropriate subject matter. It's the kind of thing that buyers should know. Some won't care (you know, the "F'em Mick, you ROCK!" crowd.) Some wouldn't touch his knives with a 10 foot tactical cattle prod. Either way, the information is entirely germane to this forum.
Roger
If you're gonna say negative things against one group, why should it surprise you if you aren't seen in a good light by that same group? I don't agree with someone being banned for questioning someone or have a verbal sparring match, but if you spout on one side to look good for one group(not saying that happened in any particular incident), you shouldn't be surprised if the other group shuts you out. Just my opinion.
I'm really surpised at how nasty this is for such a small group of like-minded hobbyists. How do you guys all get along at Blade? Use a marker to determine where you can and can't go?
Seriously, how does this not go to blows when in person? I suspect it has to do with not saying the same things in person. Maybe I'm wrong.
I'm really surpised at how nasty this is for such a small group of like-minded hobbyists. How do you guys all get along at Blade? Use a marker to determine where you can and can't go?
Seriously, how does this not go to blows when in person? I suspect it has to do with not saying the same things in person. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Gentlebeings, please don't turn this into a cross-forum flame war; that only adds another sideshow and distracts from the real issue. If you have something to say about the way another forum website is run, that forum is the best place to say it.
A warning has been issued.
A warning has been issued.
Gentlemen, let us please leave the USN vs. bf.c distraction aside and return to the topic of this thread.
Spark has put some serious charges on the table. You may think he's a dirty, rotten scoundrel for doing it or you may question is motive for doing it, but those things are irrelevant because the charges do not depend on Spark's character or motives. Instead, each charge is supported by apparently-credible, documentary evidence. That is what the topic of this thread is and that is what we should focus on.
The longer the charges and their evidence sit on the table and nobody attacks them, the worse it looks. Attacking the messenger -- even if he is a scoundrel or even if he does have ulterior motives -- only draws attention to the message. And obvious distraction tactics only serve to increase the credibility of those charges by implying that there is no way to discredit them. If you want to discredit Spark, then show by credible evidence that what he has charged is, in fact, a pack of lies and then he will be hoisted on his own petard. Calling him names just makes you look weak.
The same is true on the other side: engaging in petty name-calling and bickering and back-biting doesn't lend credibility to the charges that have been made. Dragging other people into this, cross-forum bickering, and name calling dilute the impact of the original presentation and defocus the discussion. If you allow yourself to be drawn into these diversionary tactics, then you become a pawn of those who seek to avoid the charges and the evidence by distraction.
If there is to be a product out of this thread, if it is to accomplish anything, then that will happen by all staying on-topic and addressing the charges and the evidence that supports them. It is only through that course that we can determine the veracity of these charges.
Spark has put some serious charges on the table. You may think he's a dirty, rotten scoundrel for doing it or you may question is motive for doing it, but those things are irrelevant because the charges do not depend on Spark's character or motives. Instead, each charge is supported by apparently-credible, documentary evidence. That is what the topic of this thread is and that is what we should focus on.
The longer the charges and their evidence sit on the table and nobody attacks them, the worse it looks. Attacking the messenger -- even if he is a scoundrel or even if he does have ulterior motives -- only draws attention to the message. And obvious distraction tactics only serve to increase the credibility of those charges by implying that there is no way to discredit them. If you want to discredit Spark, then show by credible evidence that what he has charged is, in fact, a pack of lies and then he will be hoisted on his own petard. Calling him names just makes you look weak.
The same is true on the other side: engaging in petty name-calling and bickering and back-biting doesn't lend credibility to the charges that have been made. Dragging other people into this, cross-forum bickering, and name calling dilute the impact of the original presentation and defocus the discussion. If you allow yourself to be drawn into these diversionary tactics, then you become a pawn of those who seek to avoid the charges and the evidence by distraction.
If there is to be a product out of this thread, if it is to accomplish anything, then that will happen by all staying on-topic and addressing the charges and the evidence that supports them. It is only through that course that we can determine the veracity of these charges.
I still want to know what the deal is with Strider? I have read this til my head's spinning. I don't care about his service record frankly. What I do care about is the felony conviction and how he owns handguns? Doesn't make sense to me.
Can somebody specifically tell me exactly what Mr. Strider did to warrant the 5 yrs in a Federal prison and at Lewisburg no less. I know it was a carjacking of some sort. I had a good friend that ended up there for couterfieting and he was sent there cause he was considered dangerous. Truth is he was and probably still is. I guess what I am saying about that is the uless you are considered a violent felon you don't necessarily end up there. keepem sharp
Can somebody specifically tell me exactly what Mr. Strider did to warrant the 5 yrs in a Federal prison and at Lewisburg no less. I know it was a carjacking of some sort. I had a good friend that ended up there for couterfieting and he was sent there cause he was considered dangerous. Truth is he was and probably still is. I guess what I am saying about that is the uless you are considered a violent felon you don't necessarily end up there. keepem sharp
wolfmann601
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Sorry about typing Force Recon, I knew he was a SEAL. Please forgive me ole great one.
As for me screwing up the legal arguments, why cause you said so Your Honor?
nah, I know what I know because I have been part of alot of Plea agreements, one of which involved a Nol-Pros because the deal was jail or the Military. That used to happen often............
I am no Lawyer, glad you are and have straightened me out!!! Thanks
Mick got a raw deal on the "violence" part. Like many of us he always carried a gun. When he took the car from the dealer guy in the car with him that dealer rep never even saw Mick's gun. What happened was Mick, being a bit too honest told the FBI when they asked him if he had a gun, told them he did because he always did. They decided then and there that it was an armed car jacking even though he never even showed the gun to the salesman in the car with him. All he did was switch sides with the guy and when the salesman got out he hit the auto locks, slid across the center console and took off.
In the end he was charged for three counts. One was the armed carjacking I think, the other had something to do with crossing a state line or as they put it interstate travel and also one other that I fail to remember. In my mind all that is old hat and not worth repeating again. Mick admitted all that and had no problem telling it. The real sad part about that is that he simply got bad representation by some attorney obviously asleep at the wheel for the gun thing to stick in my opinion.
On the real issue here. I again think you can't get resolution here. Take it to Mick in person and you'll be more likely to get answers if you want them that bad I guess.
STR
In the end he was charged for three counts. One was the armed carjacking I think, the other had something to do with crossing a state line or as they put it interstate travel and also one other that I fail to remember. In my mind all that is old hat and not worth repeating again. Mick admitted all that and had no problem telling it. The real sad part about that is that he simply got bad representation by some attorney obviously asleep at the wheel for the gun thing to stick in my opinion.
On the real issue here. I again think you can't get resolution here. Take it to Mick in person and you'll be more likely to get answers if you want them that bad I guess.
STR
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