Mick Strider has some explaining to do.

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So I take it the AWOL is the reason for the demotion to E1 before he was discharged. That is if there was a demotion. Some, depending on college join with a higher rank once they get to school. I know in the Air Force several guys that immediately rose to E2 or E3 right after basic training.

I must admit his DD214 is the only one of six I've seen now with Honorable spelled out in lower case. Actually the training school classes were lower also and that was different as well.

I stand corrected on the DD214.

Absent without leave is a big deal I guess but then again didn't our current President do the same thing? That didn't seem to keep him from moving upward and even get elected.

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Spark said:
I'll see what I can do for better scans.

As for NousDefions, well man, if you are going to take the word of a guy who got kicked out of the Rangers, went AWOL, got popped carjacking, and lied about being in combat, that speaks volumes. Feet and knees together.
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Right now you are speculating that he was kicked out and not a medical drop

You got proof one way on another

That still doesn’t account for the time frame from 86-93
 
Horned Toad said:
Right now you are speculating that he was kicked out and not a medical drop

You got proof one way on another

That still doesn’t account for the time frame from 86-93
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If he got a medical drop LOD because of a jump injury, he'd be on disability. If he was medically discharged, it wouldn't be that fast.

After finding out he went AWOL and is a convicted felon, his fucking word is worthless. Period. That any of you believe him for anything... is amazing.
 
Spark said:
I'll see what I can do for better scans.

As for NousDefions, well man, if you are going to take the word of a guy who got kicked out of the Rangers, went AWOL, got popped carjacking, and lied about being in combat, that speaks volumes. Feet and knees together.
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I have NO reason to disbelieve that injury was the reason that he got booted from the Rangers. Can you imagine how much heartache he would have felt... the feelings of helplessness knowing that everything you had thrown your heart and guts at was being taken away from you... through no fault of your own?

I can 100% empathize with his post-Regiment attitude. Hell, I'd have probably taken a little vacation too. Does that make it right? No. Do I blame him? Hell no.

He's made mistakes, and he's taken his lumps. I'm just completely underwhelmed by your whole "BUM BUM BUMMMMM!!!! revelation about his service record.
 
NousDefions, in all seriousness, have you ever been on jump status? Or medically injured in the Army? I'm asking, because I have and know first hand what happens. And you'd go AWOL? Wow. You are a credit to our country.
 
Oh, come on! I don't see what any of that info proves. What if those 5 days of AWOL were actually a black operation that Mick was singled out to perform by the CIA or other shadowy organization? Maybe he was sworn to silence and his regular Ranger command didn't even know about it? He probably got booted out because of that, but was sworn to silence and still can't really talk about it, only allude to it. That explains a lot right there.
 
Michelle >>>> quote:

SO, I bid you all a fond adieu (except for Bohica2himself), and I will see you in the morning...

m1
p.s. Y'all are aging me prematurely.

I wonder if I can sue for that.


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C'mon, lighten up. xxooooxxxoxxo (it's valentines day)
 
Spark said:
If he got a medical drop LOD because of a jump injury, he'd be on disability. If he was medically discharged, it wouldn't be that fast.

After finding out he went AWOL and is a convicted felon, his fucking word is worthless. Period. That any of you believe him for anything... is amazing.
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I could make 30% disability right now easy and I am not claiming anything so what

Not saying I believe him, but I am saying if you have proof show it, right now you haven’t dropped any bomb shells
 
Spark said:
NousDefions, in all seriousness, have you ever been on jump status? Or medically injured in the Army? I'm asking, because I have and know first hand what happens. And you'd go AWOL? Wow. You are a credit to our country.
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My credentials are in no way relevant to this discussion, nor are they any of your business.

And no, as I stand now, I would NOT go AWOL. But I might be tempted, in an act of frustration, if I thought my whole career plan had been flushed down the toilet because of a bad PLF.

Being AWOL for 6 days is hardly the Devil's Transgression you're making it out to be. It's not right, but you're trying to make a misdemeanor sound like Murder... simply to make your own position look more tenable.
 
My wife could have claimed a disability before retiring but the process wasn't worth it as I recall.

As for the the documents. I couldn't read those. Only a few things could be understood and that chicken scratching didn't help.

I take it that there is no mention of the spinal cord injury. Somehow that doesn't prove much to me though. I may be grasping at straws but disability can sometimes be a hard thing to prove even for those that were legit with their injury claims. Is it feesible he was offered early out for some reason? Maybe so. I don't think it appears that the AWOL meant much to the Army to give him an Honorable discharge. Somehow something is still missing from this picture.

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obviously the kind of people we wouldn't mind having in the military are those who would abandon all doctrine and order when faced with an injury. that makes sense.
 
Oh, so you can question my credentials, but your's are off limits? Hah. You are a piece of work. You make an excellent doubting Thomas, to be sure, but the facts speak for themselves. Your buddy ran away from his unit in peacetime. He got his ass booted out of the Rangers, and having seen enough jump injuries and how they are handled in an Airborne unit, I call bullshit on his removal being jump related. Utter horseshit. He'd be on profile, sure. He'd be put on light duty, swell.

Kicked back to a standard Infantry unit? No fucking way. Hell, I personally was hospitalized after a really bad PLF on Tiger DZ at Fort Polk. I was put on medical leave for 30 days after I was discharged. I was on profile for another 3 months after that. You know what I wasn't? Removed from my unit, or taken off jump status.
 
I have come to a conclusion from reading what are supposedly Mogadishu Mick's own posts on other forums. And I came to this conclusion SOLELY from reading his posts and without considering his past as thoroughly documented on here. He is a poseur of the worst kind. Everything I read indicates that he is a Marcinko wannabe. I will admit that Marcinko was a good operator.....if HIS stories are to taken literally.......and i have had fun reading his books, but he is an aberation. A loudmouth boor with anti-social tendencies and an ego the size of Ft. Hood who is pissed off at the world in general and the Navy in particular. But Stider doesn't even have the service time to back up his line of shit....or the rudimentary writing skills either.
Perhaps things have changed recently, but most of the Spec Ops guys that I have met, except maybe for some testosterone charged 19yr old Ranger Battalion cherry ( who, in my opinion is NOT a Spec Ops guy yet, but a promising young infantrymen with some extra smarts and potential who needs to be educated), don't, as a general rule, talk shit about "hangin' wif heavy hitters", etc ESPECIALLY in a public forum. They go about their business quietly, because they are SUPPOSED to do that. They rarely, if EVER talk about ANYTHING relating to operational matters EVEN if the op is public knowlege. Even things a simple as the details of a training excercise are not discussed. When I went to joiin the Reserves as a young fellow right outof college and withsome timeon my hands, i was originally slotted for a spot in the HQ of the reserve Special Forces group that was based out of Richmond Heights south of Miami. I neverhad the chance to do that because they discovered that I was color blind,andas some of you know, there are no medical waivers for SF other than glasses. (i ended up in a field artillery unit....neat toys, but somewhat mundane compared to where I wanted to be....lol) The point of this is that before the recruiter could put you in, you had to go out and meet the guys and let them check you out. I just happened to meet one of the senior NCO's for a bit standing in a drop zone in a tomato field in the Redlands. I passed the interview and these guy where typical SF. Quiet, proffesional...the whole works. I asked themwhere they had been and he said they they had just flown over from the UK after being there for a couple of weeks taining. i asked where they had gone and he flat out said "sorry son, can't tellyou that" No braggin about "heavy hiiters" or "chasing Ivan all over Germany" or any other bluster. Talking about such things in public educates your potential enemy and gives them an advantage over you. The husband of a former employee of ours IS a spec ops guy and just got transfered back to MacDill into a very high position at Special Operations Command. I would LOVE to hear what he and his folks have to say about Mick now.
 
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Oh, so you can question my credentials, but your's are off limits? Hah. You are a piece of work. You make an excellent doubting Thomas, to be sure, but the facts speak for themselves. Your buddy ran away from his unit in peacetime. He got his ass booted out of the Rangers, and having seen enough jump injuries and how they are handled in an Airborne unit, I call bullshit on his removal being jump related. Utter horseshit. He'd be on profile, sure. He'd be put on light duty, swell.

Kicked back to a standard Infantry unit? No fucking way.
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How injuries are handled in a regular Airborne unit and how they are handled at RANGER REGIMENT are in no way congruous. The 75th has guys banging down the DOOR to volunteer, so there is no reason to keep long-term profiled soldiers among their ranks, especially not an E-2.

You sure know an awful lot about Special Operations. I have no doubt you served honorably, but how much of your experience translates into the comings and goings of the 75th is questionable.

And no, I will not reveal details of my service on a public messageboard while still on active duty. Sorry that ruffles your feathers so much.
 
NousDefions said:
How injuries are handled in a regular Airborne unit and how they are handled at RANGER REGIMENT are in no way congruous. The 75th has guys banging down the DOOR to volunteer, so there is no reason to keep long-term profiled soldiers among their ranks, especially not an E-2.

You sure know an awful lot about Special Operations for a Combat Engineer.

And no, I will not reveal details of my service on a public messageboard while still on active duty. Sorry that ruffles your feathers so much.
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If the details of your service cannot be revealed while you are on actuve duty, then they should probably NOT be revealed even when you are done with your hitch....so that is a moot point. Please see my previous post.
 
I understand from a friend visting here that AWOL is considered desertion if the person has top secret security clearance even if it isn't for the 30 days that normally has to apply before one on AWOL status is considered a deserter.

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