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Mick Strider has some explaining to do.

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Boats,
That is not what is being questioned. What Chuck is saying is Unless you can prove that it was Mick himself who posted that document to the web and did the Strider knife approved overlay it dosn't matter what it says as far as pure evidence. I can't access badlands maby someone who can please see if it was Mick himself who posted this.
 
Boats,
That is not what is being questioned. What Chuck is saying is Unless you can prove that it was Mick himself who posted that document to the web and did the Strider knife approved overlay it dosn't matter what it says as far as pure evidence. I can't access badlands maby someone who can please see if it was Mick himself who posted this.

With all due respect, the "did Mick put it up?" angle is ridiculous. IT WAS ON THEIR WEBSITE, OVER WHICH THEY HAVE TOTAL EDITORIAL CONTROL.

Also, go to page one of this thread. This same DD-214, with the exception of the "Strider Knives Approved" stamp is identical in description to the one described by Beau Springer when Mick Strider unquestionably put it up in response to the flap at TF.com. I have no reason to NOT believe it is the same DD-214 propagated then.
 
Boats,
That is not what is being questioned. What Chuck is saying is Unless you can prove that it was Mick himself who posted that document to the web and did the Strider knife approved overlay it dosn't matter what it says as far as pure evidence.

Exactly. I should have made myself clearer. Thank you Micky.

I, myself, know next to nothing about a DD-214 form. I defer completely to Mr. Kohai999 whose duties as a soldier included completing these forms. (One nice thing about the internet is that when you get a few thousand people together, there's likely to be a real expert on even the most obscure subject somewhere in the crowd and I thank Mr,. Kohai999 for stepping forward and sharing his knowldege with us).

What I do know is that anyone with a bit of Photoshop experience could produce a low-resolution, doctored version of a DD-214 form. That doesn't prove anything. What would be interesting to our discussion here is if Mr. Strider did the alterations or if he approved them or even if he knew that the altered version was being circulated.

Keep in mind, also, that we do not yet know if the DD-214 image in question is altered or not. There's reason to be suspecious. But suspecion is not conviction. So, I would urge people to withhold judgement on the DD-214 until we have a few more facts which I suspect are forthcoming shortly.
 
If it was not put up by Mick, then who?

One would protect a DD-214 with MORE attention than a birth certificate. A DD-214 has all the information that one would need to perform total identity theft, for all intents and purposes.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
And if Badlands is their site then one would think he would know what was being posted and would remove it if he didn't aprove of it. I was not aware badlands was a Strider site.
 
If it was not put up by Mick, then who?

One would protect a DD-214 with MORE attention than a birth certificate. A DD-214 has all the information that one would need to perform total identity theft, for all intents and purposes.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson


Yes but I could scan mine, ocr it, and then fill in what ever I wanted including someone elses name and post it. This is why it was important to know who posted it. If as Boats says badlands is Micks site then he obviously knew and approved of its posting.
 
I, myself, know next to nothing about a DD-214 form. I defer completely to Mr. Kohai999 whose duties as a soldier included completing these forms. (One nice thing about the internet is that when you get a few thousand people together, there's likely to be a real expert on even the most obscure subject somewhere in the crowd and I thank Mr,. Kohai999 for stepping forward and sharing his knowldege with us).

What I do know is that anyone with a bit of Photoshop experience could produce a low-resolution, doctored version of a DD-214 form. That doesn't prove anything. What would be interesting to our discussion here is if Mr. Strider did the alterations or if he approved them or even if he knew that the altered version was being circulated.
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1. Chuck, you can call me Steve or Steven, Kohai means "student" in Japanese. I was a sailor, not a soldier.

2. The DD-214 does not look correct, FWIW. In the Navy, at that time, all uppercase was the only acceptable manner of DD-214 production, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE. The Army may be different.

3. Not an expert, but a specialist. My title was "transfers and separation coordinator" from mid-1989 until discharge in December 1990. I was TAD to the USS Pledge to help them sort out some logistical paperwork issues for 4 months during that period.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Every DD214 I have ever seen has been all upper case also. I've seen one from the Army and for all practical purposes it was the same as my Air Force one and my wife's regarding the upper case lettering. As I said before Mick may have had someone really green type the form but it may be possible someone even greener supervised the green typist to let it get out the door that way based on others I've seen.

STR
 
From the thread "Losers!" in July 2005. Points of interest BOLDED.

http://www.badlandsforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3419&page=1&pp=15&highlight=DD-214

So there i was….

Minding my own beeswax, cause that’s all i have time for these days….

When i get a call from my titanium guy…he tells me there is this guy named Tim from MD Labs that is looking for some of my Coyote Brown G10. So i say to myself, “that must me Kevin, i bet his knives would look cool in brown”. So i e-mail him and ask if he needs some. He says yes and tells me it’s for Tim Tang and he (Tim) will deal with payment, blah…blah…blah…

So a few days later what do i find out?
Strangely, I find out that not only Kevin, but Tim as well, are e-mailing out a bunch of crap about me.

Im kind of used to this, I have to say, because one of the other mailers, there were several, the one who was so terribly disgusting as to send a grubby note to a young collector friend of mine, has been attempting to destroy both my, as well as my partners credibility, (lively hood) for years. Most of the people reading this know him. He’s been around for years. His name is Lance Harris. Of course when he sends out these mails he is much too cowardly to do it in his own name. He uses one of his “special” Japanese names. Lance wishes he was a Samurai. i kinda wish i was too …..but i don’t pretend to be Japanese…

Lance is actually a pretty good dude. i used to know him, not really i guess….
But he got a head full of trash one day. A lot of you more than likely remember…

He started this big ol Witch Hunt over whether or not a guy teaching tracking to the USMC was actually an RSAS vet. i know that sounds kinda strange, but for some reason he felt that the USMC was not able to correctly asses their instructors….

You want to know the reason? Because he went to a tracking class from one of the guys rivals. And, can you believe it!!!??? Guy 2 badmouthed Guy 1. i know, i know…rivals NEVER bad mouth each other…so of course Lance went for it. Why THAT is dishonorable! So of course Samurai Lance, who from this point I guess we should address by his chosen name of Hariudo Tenshi went on a “special mission” to make things right.

In the end, Hariudo Tenshi ended out the fool….that, of course hurt his ego a bit. That on top of the fact that, though he was on the cover of a Japanese magazine, all of the glory of that magazine went to the very person he was trying to destroy.

Since then he has been attempting to destroy Strider Knives through a little game of “spread the lies”….and of course some truth. Lies are much more believable when told with a little truth…

Should have chosen the honorable thing Hariudo Tenshi and taken your own life.


Sorry…got side tracked….

Like i said, im kinda used to it.

So anyway….if you have not seen what they sent out, which im sure most of you have by now…it was a big fat list of stuff about me….and for some reason some other guy who went to prison….i guess it makes me much more worserer if I know other bad guys….im not sure….my morals are askew…

If i remember it all….i don’t have it right here….it was a cool looking “Investigation” report, that i hope didn’t cost much cause that fucker was VERY badly done…(Though Lynn Thompson of Cold Steel Knives DID in fact donate money for the investigation. i heard it was $10,000 but Lynn wont return my e-mails so i can’t be sure of the amount).

I find it strange about Lynn. Not that I think he is above it, much like Kevin, Lynn attempts to sell his own product by talking shit about more popular gear. (loser)
What I find strange is that the investigation was in fact instigated by X.
WHAT??!! Where did that come from?

Funny twist to the story….
X built up this stuff because he felt he needed to have some leverage against me, because i know of how much of a shit bag he is. X, oddly enough was arrested and rather than do his own time, he turned into a CI and busted WHO? Well the VERY same guy whose papers were sent out with mine! Isn’t that a shock! At least three other friends of mine went to jail over his little telling spree…two who were later cleared and went back to duty as Marines, and one who didn’t.

And whats even MORE shocking is that…you’ll of course NEVER guess….X was competitors with the guy! I know that’s a shocker…but hey…business is business right?

Any way…X sends me this big ol mail about how he’s not really a bad guy, but its ME that is and he has a bunch of proof and i should be ashamed of myself and blah blah blah…

Here’s the funny part. He tells me: “before you get pissed off and over react, I’ve sent this to 30 people with instructions of what to do if ….”
Come on 007….gimme a break…

To be honest, i felt bad. X and i were friends at one time…okay i thought we were….he was one of the first guys i met when i got out of prison. When he started his store, I gave him a BUNCH of knives and holsters to sell, and pay me whenever. Instead of pay at all…he started to talk shit about us and our gear, even attempted to knock off one of our knives (That’s how X works…he has no actual skill at making or designing…but he steals great) and sell it as a special SEAL knife in Japan. X was a SEAL. Forgot to mention that. Thanks for your service X.

Okay…Back to the “report”.

Funny thing about reports that are jaded…they ONLY have bad stuff.
There was “investigations” on my partner as well….strange it didn’t mention that he is a LEO.

There was of course the part about me going to prison. Which i have to say…i already thought every one knew. Its not like i keep it a secret.

The thing that REALLY was disgusting was the “wives tale” of what a shit bag I am…funny how they didn’t mention that this was from a custody hearing and that the document was so full of crap that it was removed from the case.
For those of you that don’t know this….when a bad guy gets out of prison, if the parents are not together, they make the bad guy have State supervised visits for a while. Strange they didn’t include the States report on the parenting of the mother and father in this case. Funny they didn’t mention that i had to pay the state back ten grand in Welfare Abuse dollars that she collected while i continued to support her from Prison, just to keep my sons mother (who of course hates me) out of jail.
Yep….strange.



Not really. They also falsified my military history.
im not much of a talker. All anyone knows about my military history, if anything is that i served in a Ranger Battalion.
Never have i told a story of ANY of my military duty.
My parents don’t know
My friends don’t know.
In fact when asked what I did, while in the service I generally say I was in the Infantry. Only knife geeks, and actual real people know more. (because folks sure like to talk about mick)…


Its my business. im a VERY private person.
Nothing i did while serving in the Military was special. i had a head full of spiders then, just like now.

Not that i personally care what any one thinks of me, but i DO have responsibilities to my company. Things like this, to someone with less than border line intelligence, (AKA Beau Springer), are a big deal, and since they never actually did anything in their own pathetic lives to think or talk about, they will talk and talk and talk. Guys like this are so retarded that they think that because i went to prison that i DON’T know about knives??!! There’s a person who has REALLY tasted life…
People as low as this will even feel free to continuously call me by the name I clearly changed for a reason….never a thought as to why I may have done it. Again, ive never made it secret ive changed my name….i of course don’t advertise what it was….idiot… Who cares about my families security?
Not these guys….they even sent out my childrens addresses. Yes. i shit you not. Also mentioned that im separated from my wife….nice….thanks for letting every one know im not there to protect my loved ones…..

You people are the lowest I have encountered in my life. Think for a minute of how many shit bags ive known.
You are the VERY lowest.

You’re attempt to destroy Strider Knives was not nearly as retarded as you…..but very retarded.

See, everyone, the plan was that a felon can’t contract with the US Government. Which of course is much of our business. Kevin wishes he could have it, and thinks if we didn’t have it, he would.
Good news for us! We’re a Corporation. Sammy don’t care about felons no-mo!

The funny thing is that even if we weren’t around, his gear is substandard. No one wants a ten year old chromed turd, no matter how many Jimmy Neutron stories you tell.
When we first started to deal with Military groups selling knives, it was with the Navy. And a phrase was coined that has been used several times since….and i think it applies here….They said to us, as we were about to make it legal, “Your not gonna Mad Dog us right”? This of course is a reference to Kevin’s failed knife project with them. It makes me feel good after all this time, to see that then and even now, every one who actually is some one, knows who the losers are.

I have attached the pertinent parts of my DD214. For those of you who never bothered to enlist:
Kevin McClung............Mad Dog Knives
Tim Tang....................MAXPEDITION
Lynn Thompson.........Cold Steel Knives
Lance Harris..............Body guard
Beau Springer............Real Estate guy…(no wonder he has so much to say about tactical gear)

Anyone I missed, you know what a loser you are regardless. And of course X, who DID serve, but if he posted his 214 you would more than likely see a “less than honorable” discharge.


DD214 is your separation document from the Military.
This is your proof that you’re a bunch of shitbag liars. As well as that all my “stories” are true. The indicated portions prove that, not only was i in the Army, but that i served in a Ranger Battalion.



Just to rub your ugly little faces in it, ive also attached the NSN’s we were issued while you were jacking off trying to make me look bad.

My suggestion to you is that you send out an apology to every one you sent that crap to, and mind your own business.

But of course you wont.

Personally, I don’t give a fuck what you do.
I think about you as often as I think about the flys buzzing on the dead animals I pass in my new truck.

Coveting is BAD!

Even bad ol mick knows that!



Knife, Fixed, Camo NSN 1095-01-531-5023
Knife, Folding, Special Mission, NSN 1095-01-531-5015 These two are new and my favorite, because they were awarded while you were posting this shit……

JB1, Shroud Knife, NSN 1670-09-000-3920


There are a few more….but i don’t have them in front of me right now and im tired of you losers….






EDIT NOTE* i pulled my paper work off of this.....im sure enough people have seen it and down loaded it by now......

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RLTW

"2) Only when you have become successful do people start talking bad about you. As it is easier to bitch and complain about someone and hope you can bring them down to your level. Than it is to put forth the effort required to move up to level of the successful person."
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We prefer to be called Buccaneer-Americans. Thanks.



All of the above statements are made by someone with questionable moral character!
Last edited by Mick Strider : 02-06-2007 at 07:38 PM.

Good night sweet prince.
 
let's cut borebrush some slack, he used to look high speed, and now carries a SAG card. "I'm not n operator, but I play one on TV."

there's really no way to expect him to oppose what Strider does, he does the same thing. it's ok, we understand

:jerkit: That's no way to ask for an autograph B


FYI I'm not SAG, and I haven't yet played an "operator on tv". I've played SWAT in two films, a Deputy in one, and both a Cop and Goth kid in a TVshow, within the past 15 months. Not to mention the 1000 or so live stunt shows I've done between my EAS, going to gunsmithing school and starting filmwork. I live in a right to work state, so SAG is more of a hinderance.

So your opinion is moot to me. I've already stated where I stand, and that is with my friends. I live my life and excell at what I do because I focus on what I NEED TO DO and on the task at hand. Not dragging down the competition. People love my guns, and my knives. And if they don't? So fucking what? I've been extremely blessed to get the life experience I've had. I am as confident in front of a 1000 people cheering for my "death" as I am in front of a camera. I have never had to up sell or embellish my resume to get work in a field where self promotion seems to be the key. Either you want my product or you don't. You don't have to like me. Although you probably would.


Call me whatever, but be advised. Nothing said on an internet forum can erase what I've done in service for my Country, or supporting myself while entertaining thousands.

GRIND, thanks for the assist.
 
Jeeeeesus, you guys are unreal......one minute saying Mick Strider should be sent to jail for not editing posts....when you find one that has been edited, it's all, oooooh he's got something to hide.......you guys are really clutching at straws....you are starting to sound desperate.
 
I must have missed the answer to my simple question. michelle, feel free to chime in, you seem the closest to Mr Burger/Strider posting in this thread. WHY did he carjack the car? WHY did he need the car? WHO tasked him to take the car? those questions are simple, and quite relevant, as they could clear up the whole carjacking thing. did he steal it in service to his country? (although one wonders why military special forces "operators" are "operating" in california) or was he a gang-banger, mob hitman, or just a car thief?

I for one can't fault someone for trying to make a buck when times are hard. if he needed to feed his kids and the only way was to knock off an armored car, and his boys wanted him to get the getaway car, I can't fault that.

what I can fault is the fact that I doubt sincerely that I will get a straight answer to this questions that isn't "it is classified" or "I did what i had to".

PLEASE for the love of God, no roundabout answers, no back talk, just a straigtforward simple answer with a reason for stealing the car. were those heavy hitting fuckers govt. agents or Special Forces, or spies? or were they just thug gang-bangers? is he hooked up with the mob? (faking a claim to the mob or certain gangs is almost as bad as faking military service, with the added benefit of being chopped up and dumped in the river).

example: "I stole the car because I was told to secure a vehicle for (insert activity here). I did this because at the time I was involved with (insert organization here)"

If his reasonings for the carjacking are cleared up, would that not begin to answer some of the other questions like why he lied about his service, etc? everything seems to be interconnected in this man's life and dealings. instead of the shit slinging, lets just get some straight answers straight from the horses mouth.
 
WTF??!
The timing (02-07-2007) is interesting!
If he has nothing to hide, why would he pull it offline - ever?!
He pulled it offline in 2005. Re-read what was written.

Secondly, and again I must be missing something, but ISN'T THE ONLY THING "WRONG" ABOUT MICK'S DD-214, AS COMPARED TO LEGALLY OBTAINED FOIA DOCUMENTS, A FRIGGIN' DATE????

Why would he post a doctored DD-214... that contained nothing but correct, relevant information?

What are you guys talking about that is more sinister?
 
I live in a right to work state, so SAG is more of a hinderance.

I've heard as much, but I'm not much of a union supporter in any capacity in the US anyway. I had thought about stuntwork myself, bought 2 gallons of fire gel (and the guy ion the phone selling it chastised me:confused:), nomex undies and did a partial burn, picked up a couple foam pads a nearby high school was throwing out from track & field (I had guessed they would have been good for 40 ft. stacked) and even had an old beater I picked up at auction that I wanted to try hood rides on. Unfortunately, all my friends said I was crazy to try a fall or hood ride and wouldn't give me an assist. And now, some years later, one of them is asking when I'm going to do another burn:rolleyes: I understand your work is dangerous and difficult to be successful at. So when you can say this-

I have never had to up sell or embellish my resume to get work in a field where self promotion seems to be the key. Either you want my product or you don't.

I say that is where you differ greatly from Mick.

I haven't done any stunt work, haven't yet deployed, haven't got my forge built yet; but I won't lie about the fact that I haven't done anything of significance.
 
english mark : quote;
"Jeeeeesus, you guys are unreal......one minute saying Mick Strider should be sent to jail for not editing posts....when you find one that has been edited, it's all, oooooh he's got something to hide.......you guys are really clutching at straws....you are starting to sound desperate. "


Dude! Haven't you read the past 47 pages?!?!?!

I guess not.










I really enjoy watching people trying to come to Mick's aid. Especially those who frequent the Tom Clancy/Splinter Cell, SOCOM Navy SEALs, Ms. Pac Man, Playstation chat rooms to discuss killing techniques and how to drink beer from skulls..................................:rolleyes:

Like I said, these forums are a hotbed of recruiting for Mick Strider's (play) army.

Please leave the real Army to the grownups...............
 
looks like mr strider has a relative in my neck of the woods-guy walked into a car dealership a few miles from me at 3pm monday,did the buyer thing with the sales man then pulled a gun and took off with the suv-ended in a shootout-i dont see anything about if he was killed or not-

havent heard if he was spec ops,class g,operator doing his job or not-


no im not foolin-check the syracuse post standard-
 
english mark : quote;
"Jeeeeesus, you guys are unreal......one minute saying Mick Strider should be sent to jail for not editing posts....when you find one that has been edited, it's all, oooooh he's got something to hide.......you guys are really clutching at straws....you are starting to sound desperate. "


Dude! Haven't you read the past 47 pages?!?!?!

I guess not.










I really enjoy watching people trying to come to Mick's aid. Especially those who frequent the Tom Clancy/Splinter Cell, SOCOM Navy SEALs, Ms. Pac Man, Playstation chat rooms to discuss killing techniques and how to drink beer from skulls..................................:rolleyes:

Like I said, these forums are a hotbed of recruiting for Mick Strider's (play) army.

Please leave the real Army to the grownups...............


O.K. You don't agree with what I say......so......you come back with calling me a Tom Clancy/Splinter Cell, SOCOM Navy SEALs, Ms. Pac Man, Playstation forum regular who discusses deanimation techniques and drinking beer from skulls......is that right?.......very cool......very mature.......and you say I should grow up.

Why does someone defending Mick Strider bother you so much.......what's your dog in this fight......watching you guys bouncing off each other trying to come up with evidence has been amusing. You remind me of a bunch of blind guys fumbling in the dark....looking for something......and every time you think you've found something it's .....look, look I've found something, proof , evidence, I found this on the internet , aren't I clever......

Plus it's not very cool to leave someone with an insult (however weak)and to log off before I can reply.....kind of lacks of any backbone......If you ask me.

Mark Lewis.....


P.S. Oh my, I edited my post.......I wouldn't want to get you all in a flim flam......it was just to correct a spelling mistake.
 
I've heard as much, but I'm not much of a union supporter in any capacity in the US anyway. I had thought about stuntwork myself...

looks like mr strider has a relative in my neck of the woods-guy walked into a car dealership a few miles from me at 3pm monday...

Gentlemen, let's see if we can stay on-topic, please. I know that, in a thread this long, it's easy to get distracted. It takes a bit of effort to remain focused.
 
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