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Mick Strider has some explaining to do.

Discussion in 'FEEDBACK: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly!' started by Spark, Feb 11, 2007.

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  1. Allan Molstad

    Allan Molstad Banned by Moderators Banned

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    I cant read the guy's mind....
    But just from reading your post of such events, I can just tell you my first reaction to such a wording is.

    My first, "gut reaction" is that this is a rather clever way of talking about a rather dull and uninteresting part of a person's court history.

    The phrase "Sentenced to Somalia" is key here to see the joke in this case.

    This "Sentenced to Somalia" part strikes me to be equal to saying something like:, "The judge wanted to take my nuts",,,,or "The judge wanted to run me out of town on a rail"
    Thats the idea I get from the phrase; "Sentenced to Somalia"

    Im not saying that this was the true idea that he had in mind when he first wrote this phrase, but if you ask me now what the phrase means to me, thats what it means....
     
  2. NousDefions

    NousDefions

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    Dec 4, 2006
    PLEASE STOP.
     
  3. HoB

    HoB

    May 12, 2004
    Girl, you need to get out more. I don't know what you do for a living but I have a job. The last time I posted was yesterday. I think it is not unreasonable to imagine that I do not keep up with my hobby more than once a day. Since my last post more than 10 pages have been added, I can not even find my own last post without a search function and I stumbled over your accusations purely by chance. So much for ignoring you.

    And yes, THEY have claimed it, a few years back, in the initial thread in the course of which Mr. Strider posted his blacked out discharge papers. Since Mr. Strider challenged in that tread pretty much all allegations, but not once the terms of this conviction, I had no reason to assume they were wrong. Since I am sure you are intimately familiar with the thread in question, I do not feel the need to direct you to it.

    As to *certified (of course)*, I have yet to see (I may have missed it in this lengthy thread) anything *certified* that supports that Mr. Stider has actually done any of the things he has claimed to have done. All I have read so far are stories that read like they have come straight out of a book from the bestseller list table at Barnes and Nobles. The last actual evidence I have seen supports nothing more that he was a common grunt and not a "high speed" operator. So how about you show us something *certified* when you support someone elses highflying claims before you go around asking the same of others. I am a strong believer in the "most likely" theory. Since it will be a while till definite proof is furnished, right now I have a lot con and absolutely nothing pro.

    Since I have no interest in getting as emotionally involved in this pissing contest as you seem to be, this will be my last post here. I will cast my vote with my money. Should you feel I ignore you in the future, you will in fact be right as I am going to put you on my ignore list, as have have read absolutely nothing but hot air from you in this thread.
     
  4. Spark

    Spark HPIC - Hatas gonna Hate Staff Member Administrator Super Mod Moderator

    Oct 2, 1998
    For 65 days. Till he was kicked out. After which he was such a stellar SOCOM soldier that he went AWOL.

    That must have been an intense 65 days of SOCOM activity, to get recruited for some sort of civilian Special Operations combat role.
     
  5. roughedges

    roughedges

    Oct 3, 2004
    Respectfully, Mr. Molstad: I believe that Mick Strider's intentions were and are much less sophisticated than that.

    Out of curiosity, what do you make out of Mr. Strider's changing his name to emulate the character Aragorn from Tolkien's fantasy series?
     
  6. SpyderJon

    SpyderJon

    Jan 27, 2002
    You know, this thread used to just make me sad. NOW, its starting to remind me about that saying where winning an argument on the internet is like winning the special olympics...

    I dunno. I read the motives listed for starting this thread. I'm willing to take the man at his word. A little "swift-boat"-ish, but hey its on his dime.

    I'm a member of the USN. Proud to be. And yet, for all the accusations and insinuations that get thrown about on this board regarding that place, THIS thread has more drama in it than ANY thread I've ever known of "over there"- and that INCLUDES the Political forum.

    Don't like Mick? Don't buy his knives. Don't like the USN? Don't come visit- we won't miss you. However, please, stop all of this crap, huh? Yeah, some people find this stuff important- and it is important to them, but again, so are the Special Olympics to THEIR participants.
     
  7. falnovice

    falnovice

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    Oct 9, 2005
    NousDefions,

    But does this work in retro.

    My late grandfather was in the 5th Rangers in WWII. Saw plenty of combat, was wounded twice, killed plenty of people. If he were alive would he be allowed to refer to himself as SOCCOM because that is the phrase now?
     
  8. digitalrebelttu

    digitalrebelttu

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    Nov 25, 2005
    So he claims that he is sitting in jail, sick to death about his fellow rangers (who had just lost 18 rangers, delta and 160th SOAR) who are still in combat but whoops, they have been withdrawn. Is that a joke?

    And tell me, since he had been out of the Army since 1986, would they have just handed him a rifle and say go get 'em, be an army of one. Since he must have super qualified over all the Rangers, Delta, SEALS, MArines, 10th Mtn, and everyone else that had been in combat in Somalia for the last 2 years. Well that sounds very credible to me.
     
  9. Allan Molstad

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    Well, the truth is that a writer can use any word to mean any thing.
    It's all just letters on my keyboard...

    Take the word "kill"....what does it mean?
    How many different meanings can you think for it?...lots likely right?

    Then there is the whole "context" issue to keep in mind.
    Remember I dont concider anything I read from people on the internet to be trustworthy at first.
    So if I read "whatever' about this of that guy being connected to SOCOM Spec Ops, it really means nothing. None of it should be just looked at and trusted just because this or that guy says so.

    And when in the fuller context of the whole "Walter Mitty" writing style the guy seems to use when talking about his own history, I cant say that the "Socom Spec Ops" stuff is to be viewed any different at all than the other stuff I have read he blathers on and on about.
     
  10. Boats

    Boats

    Aug 7, 2003
    Burger's "name choice" is a copyright violation. Since the LOTR was only published in the mid-50s, it's still copyrighted.

    A cease and desist from the Tolkien estate would be remarkably amusing.
     
  11. automated ugug

    automated ugug

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    Jun 12, 2003

    sorry Spark.. i must have lost that in all these pages.. whats this 65 day figure please?
     
  12. Allan Molstad

    Allan Molstad Banned by Moderators Banned

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    yes, thats it....I believe thats the case here.

    The style of this, the way it is writen seems to be that he takes what might have been in a very dull and uninteresting moment of his rather dull life, and talks about it in a way to make it 'pop".....to make it "grand"....to make it 'a page-turner to read'...

    This is Walter Mitty...
    This person seems to me to be a very good example of a Walter Mitty with no off switch.
     
  13. NousDefions

    NousDefions

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    Dec 4, 2006
    I seem to recall you stating that this was a thread to be based on nothing but proven, verifiable fact. Now, even you have regressed to petty sarcasm... which has nothing to do with the facts.

    The FACTS:

    -Mr. Strider, at one point, lied about having combat experience. He has recanted these claims in a court of law.
    -Mr. Strider was an Airborne graduate, attended RIP, and was assigned duty to the 75th Ranger Regiment. Had SOCOM existed, he would fall under its umbrella.
    -Mr. Strider was dismissed from Regiment.
    -Mr. Strider went AWOL for 6 days approximately 3 weeks after his new assignment.
    -Mr. Strider is a convicted felon.
    -Mr. Strider claimed that, instead of a 5 year prison sentence, he would be sent to Somalia for duty with the US Government. The truth of this claim is unverified, and therefore moot, but the claim itself is fact.

    Your CONJECTURE:

    -Mr. Strider claimed to have stolen a car while conducting "Black Operations".
    -Mr. Strider was kicked out of Regiment for poor conduct, instead of the injuries he claims.
    -Mr. Strider's company's success is based, in large part, on the mystique of his time spent as a Ranger.
    -Mr. Strider has personally claimed civilian Special Operations duties. He has not.
    -Mr. Strider posted a forged DD214 on the board, the entirety of which (save a single date) have been verified.

    Is there something I've missing?
     
  14. Boats

    Boats

    Aug 7, 2003
    MS published a forged DD-214 on the internet.
     
  15. Allan Molstad

    Allan Molstad Banned by Moderators Banned

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    Thats the point here, thats the joke of the story.
    Walter Mitty thinks of himself as a great doctor, thinks of himself as a great space man, but he was really just a husband who wanted his car tired changed.

    No one writes about a guy needing a tire changed....unless he could not change that tire because of a gunshot to his arm while in the South American bush on a Spec Ops job for the NAS (It's all hush-hush, I cant talk about it, but guys in the know dont have to ask)....

    See?
    Thats a way better story to read...
     
  16. DXC

    DXC

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    Dec 20, 2004
    Sir, there is nothing common about a Grunt, I do resent that.
     
  17. NousDefions

    NousDefions

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    Dec 4, 2006
    Sorry, I forgot to put that under the CONJECTURE file.

    There is zero evidence that it is a forgery, and if it is, it is the most insanely idiotic forgery in existence... since everything about it is accurate save a single date.
     
  18. JD Mandrell

    JD Mandrell Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 20, 2001

    Are you serious?

    Then by all means, give us another working definition of SOCCOM?

    Especially when it comes from Mr. Burger.....
     
  19. Allan Molstad

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    Other than it sounded cool?
     
  20. digitalrebelttu

    digitalrebelttu

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    Nov 25, 2005
    Ok, I'll take that as an answer.
     
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