Mick Strider has some explaining to do.

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Pete1977 said:
I must have missed the answer to my simple question. WHY did he need the car?
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Pete, I read your post here, and it just seems kinda weird to be asking such questions about a guys past like this.


Pete1977 said:
example: "I stole the car because I was told to secure a vehicle for (insert activity here). I did this because at the time I was involved with (insert organization here)"
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Am I the only one that thinks this is clearly a funny "Walter Mitty" manner of talking about one's life?

It's clearly "over the top" writing, and it's also clearly meant to be seen as "over the top" writing. Thats part of the joke of writing within this style.

I also dont understand all the anger and the cuss words on this topic over what I think is just a funny way the guy has when he writes about his rather dull and uninteresting life in a style to make it more interesting and "dangerious".
 
Boats said:
From the thread "Losers!" in July 2005. Points of interest BOLDED.

http://www.badlandsforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3419&page=1&pp=15&highlight=DD-214



Good night sweet prince.
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So....what we DO know from Mick's own post is that
1. He posted the DD214 in question AND
2. When he incorporated Strider, he freely admits that it was done, in part, as subterfuge so that a convicted felon would be able to bid on military contracts that he would have otherwise been unable to bid on.
ok....I think that clears up two points
 
Do you guys think it's clever to accuse each other of being a keyboard commando or computer-coward or whatever, when you're all frequently active members of online-forums?
Stop distracting from the topic, please. It's not just you reading this thread, but also people from other forums who come here to build their own opinions on this subject.
At least noone gets kicked for asking questions or having opinions, unlike other places...
The link to this thread has been posted at CPF. Obviously, this topic is brand new to some Strider collectors. No wonder, some places where Mick Strider is active ban everyone who mentions this, and choke out every discussion about it before it can begin. These people aren't TG, but BG = brainslug green.
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The evidence speaks for itself. You can either care or not.
 
Allan Molstad said:
Pete, I read your post here, and it just seems kinda weird to be asking such questions about a guys past like this.



Am I the only one that thinks this is clearly a funny "Walter Mitty" manner of talking about one's life?

It's clearly "over the top" writing, and it's also clearly meant to be seen as "over the top" writing. Thats part of the joke of writing within this style.

I also dont understand all the anger and the cuss words on this topic over what I think is just a funny way the guy has when he writes about his rather dull and uninteresting life in a style to make it more interesting and "dangerious".
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I think that the car jacking is a major bone of contention in this issue and the reason for why strider/burger did what he did could clear up some things. he's freely put other personal information re: his military service on a public forum, and he has served his time for the car jacking, so what is the harm of giving the reason for it. :) I doubt it was done in a 24-esque government operation, but who knows.

re: the over the top writing, I think you might be one of the few who sees strider's claims as meant to be seen as over the top. otherwise we would not have this or any of the other strider threads:). his supporters and detractors are vehement in their attacks and defenses of his character, a little too much to justify a walter mitty story.
 
I just got off the phone with the Secretary of the 75th Ranger Regt. Association. He is also the editor of their magazine and has all their files. The 75th RGR RGT Assoc. does not perform any investigations of people unless they apply for membership. A member of the organization can and some do their own investigations on people. So to say that the Ranger Organizations are going after Mick is misleading
 
On clearances, you don not need a TS to be in BAT, some positions do require a TS, but the average enlisted has an S by the time they make it to RIP. If not they sit in RIP hold over until the clearance come through or not.

Dead issue

On getting sent down the road from Bat. Still waiting for info. But AWOL in 86 by itself alone wouldn’t get you kicked out of the Army. In the late 70 to mid 80s I was just told that about 25% of the Army didn’t make it past there first 365 days. This would bar you from VA school benefits and no flag on your coffin.

A private that was injured with a long recovery time would get sent down the road from Bat.
 
A "Walter Mitty" story implies a pun or satire, something in a joking fashion. I don't think there was anything joking about what Mick typed in the things posted here and elsewhere. He was serious and the people that believe it are as serious as those that don't. I don't see a lot of people laughing at this. In the highest sense of the words its very serious.


STR
 
Pete1977 said:
I think that the car jacking is a major bone of contention .
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You see , I dont get this part at all....
If I learned that a guy who I worked with did jail time, I might ask "Why?" once or twice,
Hey Im human and a bit nosey too.
But after that, I dont think it's my business to go around demanding to know "the full story"

I mean, whats the point?

I just dont get how knowing why a young man got into trouble a while ago is important to so many today?

None of us can back up time, I cant go back in time even one second, let alone years and years, tus it all seems a bit pointless now, and kinda weird and a bit personal to be concerned with such things about another dude.

I just dont see the point....
I have read some of the posts printed here about the reason given, stuff about , needing to get a car for some dark ops work. But the moment I read stuff like that I just start to smile.

Dont you see thats a joke?
 
Spark said:
Fair enough. How are these for motives:
I'm a veteran. This lie insults my service, and attempts to steal the valor of men like Gordon and Shugart to bolster the reputation of a convicted felon. How many of you have knives named after them, I think the model is the SnG? How do you think Gordon & Shugart would feel about a felon lying about going to be in that theatre, then making money off their deaths?

I'm a gun owner. A convicted felon talking about owning and using firearms is food for people like the Brady's.

I own this site. Mick Strider lied to me, and to the 80,000 members here, and to the industry as a whole.

How are those motives.
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Huzzah! Those sound like plenty good motives for me.
 
STR said:
A "Walter Mitty" story implies a pun or satire, something in a joking fashion. In the highest sense of the words its very serious.
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I just dont see how anyone can see it as such , not from what I have read so far.
(I have not read all that much)

I saw a link to the Cold Steel website a moment ago and so I clicked and went to see for myself.

The moment I saw the Home Page I started to smile,,,
The whole site is a put-on.
Dont you see that too?
Is it not so very clear?

I think that the site of Cold Steel, the text of that site, the photos, and perhaps the posts on his forum too, (that keep being talked about here, I have not read that stuff yet) , are all in-line with this same "put-on" .

I think part of the salesmanship of this, is the joke.
But I sure dont see the point is asking about a guy's past errors like this.

I would never ask another about, "Why did you go AWOL?. Why did you go out with her?, Why did you get drunk that night?"

It just seems like a kinda weird too personal thing to do.
 
Alrighty, the DD214 was interesting, but not super ground breaking that I had hoped for. I can tell this will be pulled apart six ways to Sunday to debate likelyhood and typos.
What about the claims of combat service? Thats the one that serriously bugs me.
Also, I think we need final say from some authority concerning the "SOCCOM" "Spec Ops" referances. Is it acceptable for someone with his DD214 and background to refer to himself that way? By an authority.
This seems to be a gray area.

Also, if I read correctly doesn't Mick's email list LT among those that had not enlisted? I thought I read he had served. Anyone?
 
I figured it out, you anti-Strider people are part of plot to corner the market on Strider knives ????? If you can get enough misinformation and speculation out there about Mick, peop[le will stop buying his knives and drop the current market values. Once that happens you can buy them all up for 3 cents on the $dollar and control the collectors market, kind of like Randall dealers !
Well I am on to you now and I am buying all the Striders that I can before you pull off this evil plot, bought To Tad Gear AR Striders this week already.
Would this be a bad time to mention I am in the market for a CR Hatchet ????
 
Allan Molstad said:
You see , I dont get this part at all....
If I learned that a guy who I worked with did jail time, I might ask "Why?" once or twice,
Hey Im human and a bit nosey too.
But after that, I dont think it's my business to go around demanding to know "the full story"

I mean, whats the point?

I just dont get how knowing why a young man got into trouble a while ago is important to so many today?

None of us can back up time, I cant go back in time even one second, let alone years and years, tus it all seems a bit pointless now, and kinda weird and a bit personal to be concerned with such things about another dude.

I just dont see the point....
I have read some of the posts printed here about the reason given, stuff about , needing to get a car for some dark ops work. But the moment I read stuff like that I just start to smile.

Dont you see thats a joke?
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Allan, perhaps you can explain why Mr. Strider keeps bringing it up and now added that he was to be sentenced to Somalia for a year. Now aside from the legalities of a federal judge being able to do that, why, at the sentencing hearing on 3/1/94, would he be expecting to be sentenced to serve in Somalia when by 3/25/94 most US soldiers had been withdrawn, Congress had cut funding, Les Aspin had quit, and all of this was all over the news.

Is that a joke?
 
falnovice said:
Also, I think we need final say from some authority concerning the "SOCCOM" "Spec Ops" referances. Is it acceptable for someone with his DD214 and background to refer to himself that way?
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Thats all up to the given situation and the context.
After the flood here I worked with the Fire dept clearing manholes of sandbags that were tossed down in them to stop back-flooding.

They opened up the first one,, it smelled very rank down there in the dark.
The one older fire guy pointed to the youngest and said, "Today son you are on Special Ops", down you go son."

So in a way the term "SOCCOM Spec Ops" can be talking about anything the writer wants it to be talking about, and the writer can use it in a sentence, a story , an article or a movie anyway they want and not have to inform anyone else as to the meanings..

.....Thus there is just a lot of "wiggle room" there.
 
Oh, I think it is a joke alright... just not one that Mick Strider ever wanted people to figure out.


In other words, the joke WAS on us. NOW, its on him.
 
Allan Molstad said:
Thats all up to the given situation and the context.
After the flood here I worked with the Fire dept clearing manholes of sandbags that were tossed down in them to stop back-flooding.

They opened up the first one,, it smelled very rank down there in the dark.
The one older fire guy pointed to the youngest and said, "Today son you are on Special Ops", down you go son."

So in a way the term "SOCCOM Spec Ops" can be talking about anything the writer wants it to be talking about, and the writer can use it in a sentence, a story , an article or a movie anyway they want and not have to inform anyone else as to the meanings..

.....Thus there is just a lot of "wiggle room" there.
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If you've read any of my posts, you know I'm a Strider supporter... but this post is just plain bonkers.

SOCOM means one thing, and one thing only. It isn't some metaphor that Hunter S. Thompson can use at his discretion.

SOCOM didn't exist when Mick was a Ranger, but if it had, he would have been a part of it.
 
Allan Molstad said:
Thats all up to the given situation and the context.
After the flood here I worked with the Fire dept clearing manholes of sandbags that were tossed down in them to stop back-flooding.

They opened up the first one,, it smelled very rank down there in the dark.
The one older fire guy pointed to the youngest and said, "Today son you are on Special Ops", down you go son."

So in a way the term "SOCCOM Spec Ops" can be talking about anything the writer wants it to be talking about, and the writer can use it in a sentence, a story , an article or a movie anyway they want and not have to inform anyone else as to the meanings..

.....Thus there is just a lot of "wiggle room" there.
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So Mick was tasked to the "special operation" of raking the gig pit when he was at Lewis? hee, hee
 
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