Mick Strider has some explaining to do.

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'SECTION 8: Mick Strider claims in 1993 he was "tasked" with obtaining a vehicle and stole it / carjacked it. It is intimated that this was done while operating in a “black ops” style unit"

That's conjecture, is it not?
I believe that the writer (The Cold Steel guy or whomever wrote the account) wrote in such a way as to provide room for the reader to place his or her own conjecture into the story.

This is a way you write so that the reader fills-in the story with the color, and thus makes the story a very interesting thing to read.

Another reason to write in this manner is that it allows you to not have to make direct false claims, that are easy to disprove by the reader that might upset the colorfull nature of the story with rather dull facts.
 
I figured it out, you anti-Strider people are part of plot to corner the market on Strider knives ????? If you can get enough misinformation and speculation out there about Mick, peop[le will stop buying his knives and drop the current market values. Once that happens you can buy them all up for 3 cents on the $dollar and control the collectors market, kind of like Randall dealers !
Well I am on to you now and I am buying all the Striders that I can before you pull off this evil plot, bought To Tad Gear AR Striders this week already.
Would this be a bad time to mention I am in the market for a CR Hatchet ????
Actually, MY evil plot is to go down to South Tampa and find out where the SOCOM guys hang out and approach them with this line. "So.......now that the very thought of handling a Strider knife makes you ill, how would you like to buy a very nice forged W2 blade for a good price?" MUAH, HA, HA, HA, HA:D
Just kidding....lol. I for one, would not use Mick's bogus background as a sales tool......perhaps he should consider doing the same:eek: IF the knives can stand on their own merits, he should let the blades AND the people who swear by them (a number of of whom have chimed in on this thread) do the selling. I spent a lot of years in the advertising business and I think i can say with a high degree of certainty that performance specs and testimonials would serve him better. His continued insistence on activitely perpetuating this Billy Badass rep strikes me as a sign of some pretty interesting pathologies.
 
I have NEVER ONCE CLAIMED MR. STRIDER HAD COMBAT SERVICE IN A CIVILIAN CAPACITY.

Neither did I. I DID, however, posit it as a possibility though, and I shouldn't have because that could be considered "conjecture" on my part..... which doesn't belong in the discussion.

I apologize for that.

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Originally Posted by NousDefions
Sorry, I forgot to put that [forged DD-214 claim] under the CONJECTURE file.

There is zero evidence that it is a forgery, and if it is, it is the most insanely idiotic forgery in existence... since everything about it is accurate save a single date.

We're not discussing a criminal mastermind here, it's Mick Strider we're talking about.

That DD-214 was descriptively published in 2005 to counter accusations made against MS over on Tactical Forums.

That DD-214 was appended to a thread over at Badlands.com, a Strider owned forum, until February 7, 2007, when it was expressly pulled by Mick Strider himself pursuant to his own explanatory editing note.

That DD-214 can only be called "accurate" in some three or so fields, one of which is "objectively wrong."

That DD-214, with an "erroneous" date that is off two calendar year numbers, back into a year that even the most glancing review would have revealed pre-dated his entire hitch, would have never have even made it to the reviewing officer, let alone get signed off upon.

That DD-214 has not been disclaimed as "inauthentic" by anyone with authority to do so at the Strider camp.

No DD-214 for Mickey Ray Burger was produced during discovery in the TAG suit.

So, what we have is a DD-214 that is not conclusively proved as forged, but there is way more than mere conjecture that such is likely the case. The chain of events that had to fall into place to produce the exact DD-214 to create the impression that MS served for at least two years' time is highly improbable as to border on the ridiculous.
 
You see , I dont get this part at all....
If I learned that a guy who I worked with did jail time, I might ask "Why?" once or twice,
Hey Im human and a bit nosey too.
But after that, I dont think it's my business to go around demanding to know "the full story"

I mean, whats the point?

I just dont get how knowing why a young man got into trouble a while ago is important to so many today?

None of us can back up time, I cant go back in time even one second, let alone years and years, tus it all seems a bit pointless now, and kinda weird and a bit personal to be concerned with such things about another dude.

I just dont see the point....
I have read some of the posts printed here about the reason given, stuff about , needing to get a car for some dark ops work. But the moment I read stuff like that I just start to smile.

Dont you see thats a joke?

I haven't demanded anything :)

knowing why he did what he did is just as relevant to what he did and might help some of us understand the motives behind some of his other claims.

again, there are far more personal things he's freely stated on public forums than the reason for needing a car so badly he takes one.

carjacking isn't a joke. nor is time in a federal prison. it is as serious as claiming military background in order to sell knives or having a legit person front for a felon to obtain a military contract. when the mafia uses front men for casinos, clubs, bars, and restaurants, it is called racketeering.

and NousDefions- at the risk of redundancy, stealing a car, and carjacking are two different crimes. carjacking is taking the car while it is occupied, stealing a car is not. carjacking is a federal offense and is punished by time in a federal prison. car theft is not.

I don't have a dog in this fight. I am not a strider knife owner or a strider knife detractor. I think that if you weed out the shit slinging from this thread though, a valid argument is made on both sides.

I would like to know how come strider is not held in the regard that allan blade, oliver plomion or the other knife makers that have lied and taken the hard earned money of knife enthusiasts are.

no one said that strider was engaged in "black ops" or "dark ops" when he took the car. strider himself infers that he was doing "work" with "heavy hitters", some "good" and some "not so good". what do you infer from that statement. a mitty-esque fantasy life? I don't. I infer serious claims of serious things, whether they be government ordered, criminally motivated or what have you. then again, I didn't make the statement. I would like to know what he meant by them for my own edification. clearing things up, is, I thought, the purpose of this thread.
 
True. Notice that nowhere in your quotation marks are the words "Black Ops" or "Special Operations" used. However, in your first few posts, you clearly state:
...snip...
That's conjecture, is it not?
Of course. You are aware of what the words allude and intimated mean, correct?

Now, I will ask you furthermore, are you aware of what lying by omission is?

I've had tons of friends that were medically discharged from the military, and none of them were transferred to "Medical Hold Units". They simply stayed with their own unit until the documents cleared. In Mr. Strider's case, he claims Regiment simply got rid of him... which happens frequently.
Please, by all means, back up this allegation. Please provide some sort of documentation or proof of your bonafides in being a subject matter expert on this, especially since you question my statements below.

You "think his statements about it being due to an injury are bogus". Yet you have no proof otherwise, nor is it Mr. Strider's responsibility to provide any documentation to you.

That's conjecture, is it not?
On the contrary. I cannot prove a negative, and barring other documentation it is not possible for anyone to prove he wasn't medically removed, it can only be proven that he was. That is basic logic. However, since he's making the claims, he needs to back them up. He refuses. His credibility has been called into question, therefore the credibility of this claim is suspect.

I have NEVER ONCE CLAIMED MR. STRIDER HAD COMBAT SERVICE IN A CIVILIAN CAPACITY. Why place words in my mouth?
Thank you for stating that clearly. As a followup question, do you feel it is likely, or even probably that he had combat service in a civilian capacity?

A person that has been through RIP and served, for any length of time in Regiment, has a Special Operations background. Is that clear enough?
Do you feel 65 days in the Batts is brag worthy? When you hear someone say they have a Special Operations background, do you think "oh, that guy was kicked out of the Batts!" or do you draw another conclusion? Would you consider someone saying they have a Special Operations background of 65 days in the Ranger Regiment to be a credible source on anything Special Operations related? How many other people with Special Operations backgrounds used for bonafides have such a remarkable amount of training compressed into those 65 days?

Sir, you already offered your Special Operations credentials, and they included THINKING about going to SFAS, CONSIDERING Regiment/Group support, and KNOWING a Best Ranger winner. THAT is "gross exaggeration", not actual Regimental service time... regardless of duration.
Wrong, utterly wrong. I've said I understand how they work, however I've repeatedly gone out of my way to state that I was in no way in Special Operations, nor was I any sort of operator, commando, or otherwise special. I did some cool stuff, but that's the extent.

I was a lowly Combat Engineer, who served honorably. Something you saw fit to snipe at, I will remind you, without even providing any credentials of your own. Furthermore, you did this while showing the remarkable lack of intestinal fortitude and shallowness of character to call out an E1 who was barred from re-enlistment, who went AWOL, who lied about another vet with honorable discharges from the Marines and Navy, and wound up being a convicted felon.

Wouldn't that have been a shame?
If you think I'm gaining any pleasure out of this you are wrong. I will say again, I've opened up my personal and professional reputation to ruin. I've opened myself to unlimited liability if I'm wrong. But I've stepped up and answered the challengers. You, meanwhile, have taken shots at me while hiding behind anonymity. Please do not allude that I'm doing this gleefully
 
Honestly, to me that reads like he was hanging out with petty criminals who occasionaly also did something "good", like help someone in need etc.

Yes, I see that here as well.
Or, it could be just about a roommate who tossed in with him for beer money too....
 
Nice breakdown, Boats. But everything you just wrote can be taken as something entirely different if we just look at the language you used.

Or so might conjecture Mr. Molstad. :p

To put it in the words of another master bullshitter: "It depends on what your definition of is is."
 
Honestly, to me that reads like he was hanging out with petty criminals who occasionaly also did something "good", like help someone in need etc.

Sounds like the freakin' A-Team. I wonder if back in the day Mick owned a chrome plated Ruger Mini-14 "wit da switch.":D
 
You have discredited the man and presented enough proof that without rebuttal leaves him in a light most unfavorable to all.

I cannot think how you can make him feel any lower than he probably feels now. No matter what the man says, he is human and this type of expose must be a crushing blow to his manhood, ego, and standing in the Military and knife Community.

Mick been given ample chance for rebuttal and chosen to remain silent, isn't what is happening now just a bunch of folks piling on? Spark says he obtained the new evidence from the Associations that Mick must have belonged to if he was who he said he was that he is not. It now appears Spark issued the coup de grace. It's time to cease fire is it not?

Based on what you folks have presented, there is proof by preponderance of the evidence that Mick is not who or what he says he is. Unless Mick came forward and presented a defense, his military credentials, history, and accomplishments are no more. It is clear by now that Mick has chosen to remain silent and has been mortally wounded by Spark. You can all now do the jig, bust open a bottle of Opus one, light up the Cohibas and sing ding dong the Ranger's dead and then move on....

It is time now to move on to someone else in the knife industry who is not who and what they says they are. I am sure you can come up with another member of the knife industry to crucify, so drive on warriors of public good, drive on.
 
I have an silly little question. That 2002 article states that every Strider is hand ground by Mick or Duane. Now I know that the company has grown since then, but why do they have special "custom" knives that are supposedly ground by Mick and Duane and signed? Who grinds the regulars ones now? And why would a "factory" fixed blade start out at $325 with the kite string handle and go up to $375 with the fiberglass scales?
 
Ira, I've known you for years and that's the best post you ever made. Well, maybe a few well placed 2x4s have been good, too.

Win
 
You have discredited the man and presented enough proof that without rebuttal leaves him in a light most unfavorable to all.

I cannot think how you can make him feel any lower than he probably feels now. No matter what the man says, he is human and this type of expose must be a crushing blow to his manhood, ego, and standing in the Military and knife Community.

Mick been given ample chance for rebuttal and chosen to remain silent, isn't what is happening now just a bunch of folks piling on? Spark says he obtained the new evidence from the Associations that Mick must have belonged to if he was who he said he was that he is not. It now appears Spark issued the coup de grace. It's time to cease fire is it not?

Based on what you folks have presented, there is proof by preponderance of the evidence that Mick is not who or what he says he is. Unless Mick came forward and presented a defense, his military credentials, history, and accomplishments are no more. It is clear by now that Mick has chosen to remain silent and has been mortally wounded by Spark. You can all now do the jig, bust open a bottle of Opus one, light up the Cohibas and sick ding dong the Ranger's dead and then move on....

It is time now to move on to someone else in the knife industry who is not who and what they says they are. I am sure you can come up with another member of the knife industry to crucify, so drive on warriors of public good, drive on.

Nah......this one might merit a Montecristo "A" and a bottle of Haut Brion......or maybe some '97 Phelps Insignia if you wanna "buy American":D
 
It is embarrassingly funny to watch people defend a liar and a poser.

C'mon Mick, quit sending your yippy lap dogs here to do your dirty work. Be a man, at least. You have ZERO honor anyway so quit hiding behind others. You obviously never spent enough time in to study the Ranger Creed, anyway.
 
"Only when you have become successful do people start talking bad about you. As it is easier to bitch and complain about someone and hope you can bring them down to your level, then it is to put forth the effort required to move up to the level of the successful person."

Les Robertson
 
I've seen this sort of thing before- millions of times. Jealous parties will spend an ungodly amount of time, money and effort to derail a success story. Actually what you've done by this is undescore how brilliant a turn-around this person has made in his life. Deception is absolutely common and endemic to humans on this planet.
In short, "so what?" about Mick Strider's clever pattern of deception.
I have no clue about the knives but I gather that from the reputation, they are everything they are made out to be.
I've studied online communities for 5 years and attest that vitually no one is to be trusted for allegations they make about themselves, thier history or thier record. That's the nature of Myth and Fantasy.
The Internet is all myth and fantasy.
Enjoy it while you can. Who cares about the deception as long as you get what you paid for?
 
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"Only when you have become successful do people start talking bad about you. As it is easier to bitch and complain about someone and hope you can bring them down to your level, then it is to put forth the effort required to move up to the level of the successful person."

Les Robertson

That's an empty quote as applied. When someone has attained their station in life by aid of active fraud, such "success" is tainted and the criticism of same entirely justified.
 
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