Modular Leather Becker Sheaths(Pic Heavy) *UPDATE*

Goose 52

Sorry for all the questions.
Will your BK2 & other BK sheaths hold the knife in without a handle strap ? Asking that for horizontal carry options, mostly for the smaller ones of BK2 size & smaller. I would HATE to pull it out quick & cut one side of the handle strap/snap off.

Will the dangler belt loops be universal fit or sheath specific ? So i would'nt have to get a complete setup for each individual knife.

Will the accessory pouch w/fire starter loop also be a universal fit or sheath specific ?

The reason i ask these foolish questions is for OPTIONS, which i am a big fan of & also for economic reasons. It would be tough for me to be able to afford a complete set up for each of my bladed treasures, as i have many. Like over 20, maybe 30 & am not done yet.

I REALLY like your idea of a modular system, because different knives require different carry for different uses & different body sizes. Some may be comfortable carring a 10" blade on thier hip/leg, smaller people---not so much. I like the fact of your consideration of a baldric rig for larger blades. I did'nt even know what one was until i found this wonderfull forum site.

I know you are busy but i would greatly appreciate your response to my questions of an amature knife nut. Thanks :D
 
TwinStick said:
Goose 52

Sorry for all the questions.
Will your BK2 & other BK sheaths hold the knife in without a handle strap ? Asking that for horizontal carry options, mostly for the smaller ones of BK2 size & smaller. I would HATE to pull it out quick & cut one side of the handle strap/snap off.

Yes they have a good friction fit should you choose to leave off the strap. I have accidently sliced the retention strap on one of these prototypes, so I am working on a solution to it. Reason I chose the handle retention is because it is much easier to draw and insert back into the sheath than some other retentions. Handle retention straps offer good retention if they are done correctly. Some ideas I have been kicking around would be adding a pivot ring in the strap similiar to ESEE Cordura sheaths retention strap, or lining the inside of the leather with a cut-resistant nylon. There is also the possibility of using the fold over strap with either a button or Sam Brown stud.

Will the dangler belt loops be universal fit or sheath specific ? So i would'nt have to get a complete setup for each individual knife.

Nearly all accesories would be interchangeable from sheath to sheath, with the exclusion of the MOLLE backing, and full length front panels(for the BK9).

Will the accessory pouch w/fire starter loop also be a universal fit or sheath specific ?

It is universal. The front panel is 3.25"x5". The BK2 and BK9 will accept both panels, and I will offer a full length panel for the BK9(3.25"x10"). Now just think what you can fit onto that. ;)
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Hope this helps! :)
 
It would be cool if the cut resistant nylon/plastic/metal you plan to line the inside of the retention strap with also moved it out of the way, once it was unsnapped, but it would have to have some type of spring or memory to do that.
 
I did think of some spring steel sandwiched in the strap, but I am not sure the steel would be able to bend that far around to snap onto the handle, and be able to bend back. And I cannot really go with the elastic cordage like what is on the Hedgehog Leatherwork Sheaths either, because that is patented.

I will come up with something, it will be quick, easy, and effective, I assure you that. ;)
 
Goose_52 said:
I did think of some spring steel sandwiched in the strap, but I am not sure the steel would be able to bend that far around to snap onto the handle, and be able to bend back. And I cannot really go with the elastic cordage like what is on the Hedgehog Leatherwork Sheaths either, because that is patented.

I will come up with something, it will be quick, easy, and effective, I assure you that. ;)
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If elastic cordage is patented (which I swear I have seen on other sheaths before) then what about elastic flat band type of stuff? Seems to me it would be easier to sew on anyways.
 
DerekH said:
If elastic cordage is patented (which I swear I have seen on other sheaths before) then what about elastic flat band type of stuff? Seems to me it would be easier to sew on anyways.
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The elastic band had crossed my mind. I would have to find a way to "sleeve" it since that stuff like to get frayed easily.

I have seen the elastic cordage in other sheaths before as well. Many of them I have seen were done for personal use. There may have been a few that have sold sheaths with that type of retention, but nothing in large numbers. Its Paul Scheiters invention and I have alot of respect for him and his work, so I would rather come up with something completely different.
 
Goose_52 said:
The elastic band had crossed my mind. I would have to find a way to "sleeve" it since that stuff like to get frayed easily.

I have seen the elastic cordage in other sheaths before as well. Many of them I have seen were done for personal use. There may have been a few that have sold sheaths with that type of retention, but nothing in large numbers. Its Paul Scheiters invention and I have alot of respect for him and his work, so I would rather come up with something completely different.
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I totally agree. His sheaths are innovative (albeit way overpriced) and the shock corded retention straps were a great idea. There are waaaay too many people trying to imitate him.

I like the direction you're going with your sheaths. Totally unique.
 
Damn bro your leather work is lookin bad-ASS....

BK9 sheath is awesome
 
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I was impressed by the doodles, then when I saw real leather in progress I was even more amazed! Nice!
 
Goose_52 said:
The elastic band had crossed my mind. I would have to find a way to "sleeve" it since that stuff like to get frayed easily.

I have seen the elastic cordage in other sheaths before as well. Many of them I have seen were done for personal use. There may have been a few that have sold sheaths with that type of retention, but nothing in large numbers. Its Paul Scheiters invention and I have alot of respect for him and his work, so I would rather come up with something completely different.
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Definitely not saying you should rip off someone else's design, just thought it was kinda a common thing. I have been wrong before though.

As far as the elastic band, sandwich it between two thinner pieces of leather, then stitch the sides up so you can't even see it. Would be all kinds of awesome to have a hidden way of pulling that thing back, and would fit in well I think with your low-profile overall look. Course, just my 2 cents.
 
DerekH said:
Would be all kinds of awesome to have a hidden way of pulling that thing back, and would fit in well I think with your low-profile overall look. Course, just my 2 cents.
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That would be bad ass! I think any idea that can help keep the integrity of the retention straps is a great idea. I've already just about cut through the one on my FBF machete sheath. Good thing it has a good friction fit...
 
Hey Goose, if you're listenin', how's the progress goin' on these? Are we getting close to knowing a price? I just added a BK2 to the family and I think she'd be right at home in one of your beauties, of course with a pouch and fire steel. I am sorry if I missed it, but I don't recall it being asked, will you incorporate a modular method for going from vertical carry to horizontal? Seems like that would be fairly simple since the belt loop is already removable.

Any updates would be appreciated.

Blues
 
This system is so sweet, it is almost diabetic. I'd be interested in how long your brass inserts are as you said you found them too short.
 
if you make the BK9 sheath just a hair longer it looks like you could mount 2 of the utility panels on it - just a thought.
definitely looking forward to this once you have the proto's done and are ready for production.
 
BluesStringer said:
Hey Goose, if you're listenin', how's the progress goin' on these? Are we getting close to knowing a price? I just added a BK2 to the family and I think she'd be right at home in one of your beauties, of course with a pouch and fire steel. I am sorry if I missed it, but I don't recall it being asked, will you incorporate a modular method for going from vertical carry to horizontal? Seems like that would be fairly simple since the belt loop is already removable.

Any updates would be appreciated.

Blues
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I am finishing the pouch panel tonight, it will be the standard altoids tin pouch with firesteel mounted below the panel. Horizontal carry is definetly an option, even a slanted cross draw would be possible.

I am working on cost of materials and labor tonight, so I will have a tenative price for you then.

1066vik said:
if you make the BK9 sheath just a hair longer it looks like you could mount 2 of the utility panels on it - just a thought.
definitely looking forward to this once you have the proto's done and are ready for production.
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You would be able to mount 2 seperate panels, but they would overlap in the middle. That is why I am planning on offering a full length panel for the BK9.
 
Here is the panel. Disregard the antler handle firesteel, I need to find a different one for it. I am not sure I like the position of the firesteel, I may move it to run vertically along the edge of the pouch.

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On the BK2 sheath.
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Tentative pricing is around $90 for the BK2 sheath main platform and belt loop. The BK9 Sheath and belt loop will be around $110. The altoids tin pouch and firesteel loop panel will be $30.

These prices are estimates of material and labor, and may change before the release date.
 
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Wow. And wow again.
I somehow overlooked this thread in the forum upgrade.
Just outstanding design and craftsmanship.
Great stuff in this thread.
And I concur.
You could beat the shit out of a zebra with that thing. :D
 
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