My new Strider SNG......Interesting.

CRK FTW:p

Never have I owned a knife that made me want to use it more than my 21 does. Endless utility packed into a perfectly engineered and extremely refined cutting machine. And not to mention the tremendous pride of ownership that goes along with clipping it into your pocket every day. For me, it just screams "companion" like no other knife I've owned.

I'm sure striders are great for "hard use" and great at being abuse-taking knives, but Im not in the habit of abusing my knives, so I have no need for one thats as overbuilt as a strider. But that's just me, and there's plenty of people for whom a strider is the be all end all folder. Good for them that they found something they like.

And those ignorant comments about sebenzas being safe queens and good for "putting around the office"? Ummmmmm......no. Just no..........

By all means, go ahead and state your preferences. But not in a way that makes them seem like "facts", and simplifies a complex debate down to "this one is better than that one"
 
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How many folders are made with a G10 machined handle like the Strider SMF, Sng, Pt series? None that I can think of.

How many folders have the basically the same handle shape as a Strider? None that I can think of.

How many folders can you open in so many different ways like a Strider? Some Spydercos maybe.

How many plain, Ti slab sided, framelock folders like the Sebenza are out there? Too many to count. One of the most copied, and boring, designs available. The clones are everywhere. But, the Sebenza design is great! Yeah, we get it already......

Are Striders expensive? Yes. Do I like them enough to pay for the uniqueness? Yes. Are they worth it to me? Yes.

Do I own CRKs and Striders? Yes.

Although I dislike the term, the Strider design is definitely more tactical than a Sebenza.

Like Retiredguns said, alone in the woods, I would rather have my Sng than my Sebenza.

I hope the OP uses his Strider enough to appreciate its design and materials, even though he may have been expecting something else for the money.
 
Hands down the CRK is a better tomatoe slicer. I would never take a sabenza in the woods. It belongs in a more gentle setting...plain and simple.
 
Krissig12 said:
I actually laughed:rolleyes:

Not getting that whole "opinion are not facts" thing, are we?
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Yes, this is the problem with these topics.....

Opinions are wonderful, and fun to even argue, however when they are stated as fact, things go sideways fast....
 
Krissig12 said:
CRK FTW:p

Never have I owned a knife that made me want to use it more than my 21 does. Endless utility packed into a perfectly engineered and extremely refined cutting machine. And not to mention the tremendous pride of ownership that goes along with clipping it into your pocket every day. For me, it just screams "companion" like no other knife I've owned.

I'm sure striders are great for "hard use" and great at being abuse-taking knives, but Im not in the habit of abusing my knives, so I have no need for one thats as overbuilt as a strider. But that's just me, and there's plenty of people for whom a strider is the be all end all folder. Good for them that they found something they like.

And those ignorant comments about sebenzas being safe queens and good for "putting around the office"? Ummmmmm......no. Just no..........

By all means, go ahead and state your preferences. But not in a way that makes them seem like "facts", and simplifies a complex debate down to "this one is better than that one"
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From my personal experience, a Seb is much more durable then most people give it credit for, and can certainly handle just about anything you would want to do with a Strider.

On the other hand, a Strider is a much better slicer then given credit for. You need to put an edge on it, but after that, Striders can easily do finer work. Using that big finger choil is wonderful thing.

It just comes down to preference, what you do or expect a knife to do, and the feel in your hands, and that is really the only difference.
 
I've often heard it said that Strider and CRK knives are completely different flavours, but they're constantly compared almost as rivals here on the Forums. I've never owned a Strider, never even handled one, so I'm genuinely curious as to why this is... is it primarily due to similar price-points? I mean, a custom slipjoint can cost as much or more as either, and a William Henry can be more expensive than a Strider, a CRK and a Hinderer combined. Not really a fair comparison of the knives themselves, imo. So is the argument, then, simply which is bigger bang for the buck? :confused:

-Brett
 
BellaBlades said:
What I want to see is spine views of the SNG or SMF next to other over built knives to compare like TST, Burke, ZT 0550.
Anybody have a picture like that?
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Zaan vs Military

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SmF CC vs AD-10

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timberweasel said:
I've often heard it said that Strider and CRK knives are completely different flavours, but they're constantly compared almost as rivals here on the Forums. I've never owned a Strider, never even handled one, so I'm genuinely curious as to why this is... is it primarily due to similar price-points? I mean, a custom slipjoint can cost as much or more as either, and a William Henry can be more expensive than a Strider, a CRK and a Hinderer combined. Not really a fair comparison of the knives themselves, imo. So is the argument, then, simply which is bigger bang for the buck? :confused:

-Brett
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I think the only reason that CRK and Strider (you can throw RHK into this as well) are compared like this is because these three companies make up the 'high ground' of the market as far as production knives go.
That $4-$500.00 knife.

All three have feverishly loyal followings.
The brands are all very iconic in a way, and have almost a culture to them.
It's not just a knife you are buying, but a 'membership to a group' mentality.

If you can get past all of that, then it becomes obvious that all three make very different, yet excellent knives.
 
Though I haven't owned a crk, something always stops me from buying one. I had an sng, and it was perfect except for being s30v. I sold it as I needed cash. Some of the best egos I've had. I prefer the more utilitarian blade shape of the strider to high hollow even though I'm a desk jockey. I ended up sort of splitting the distance and going with a TSF Beast. However, my Manix 2 in xhp does everything I need and has the best ergonomics in the biz to me. Sng would be next in ergos.
 
I totally agree with you, if the item is mass produced. Now a craftsman that is making a one of a kind custom creation is another story, then I would not mind spending the dollars.

JR88FAN said:
I wish someone could actually explain what a $400.00 knife should be?

You can get a knife for under $50 that will do 95% of anything you need a knife to do as an EDC, everything else is just a preference and a hobby.

To say that a CRK is worth $400.00 or a ZT is worth X, or a Strider is NOT worth $400.00 can't even be considered an opinion, rather useless babble.....

It's hard to justify the price of anything beyond what it's worth to you, and it's a very useless and difficult conversation to have, or to justify to anyone but yourself....
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KnifeSherpa said:
Hands down the CRK is a better tomatoe slicer. I would never take a sabenza in the woods. It belongs in a more gentle setting...plain and simple.
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I wish I would have read this back in 2006 when I bought my first CRK. Who knew I carried a knife only meant for a"more gentle setting" for 7+ years on the fire ground. Does that mean all the use it saw over that time(cutting fire hose, cutting into fire wall insulation in cars' engine compartments, making cuts along the concrete apparatus floor, prying windows open) were done with an office knife?

Boy, if only I worked in an office and used it for cutting tomatoes I would have had the right tool;)

Interestingly, the very first thing I cut with my SnG tanto, a small piece of wire, resulted in a chip. Funny how everyone's experiences aren't exactly the same.
 
flipe8 said:
I wish I would have read this back in 2006 when I bought my first CRK. Who knew I carried a knife only meant for a"more gentle setting" for 7+ years on the fire ground. Does that mean all the use it saw over that time(cutting fire hose, cutting into fire wall insulation in cars' engine compartments, making cuts along the concrete apparatus floor, prying windows open) were done with an office knife?

Boy, if only I worked in an office and used it for cutting tomatoes I would have had the right tool;)

Interestingly, the very first thing I cut with my SnG tanto, a small piece of wire, resulted in a chip. Funny how everyone's experiences aren't exactly the same.
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I thought that was amusing also when I read it. :D

CRK's are not weak office knives at all.

They are hard working tools meant to be used. :thumbup:

I used to beat my Zaan pretty good when I had it, pried nails out of pallet jack wheels with it on many occasions.
 
This is getting silly, a CRK doesn't belong in the woods? Why? It's steel and titanium, hardly a fragile knife, it can handle anything a stryder can, the difference being the stryder just looks more tactical.
 
Krissig12 said:
CRK FTW:p

Never have I owned a knife that made me want to use it more than my 21 does. Endless utility packed into a perfectly engineered and extremely refined cutting machine. And not to mention the tremendous pride of ownership that goes along with clipping it into your pocket every day. For me, it just screams "companion" like no other knife I've owned.

I'm sure striders are great for "hard use" and great at being abuse-taking knives, but Im not in the habit of abusing my knives, so I have no need for one thats as overbuilt as a strider. But that's just me, and there's plenty of people for whom a strider is the be all end all folder. Good for them that they found something they like.

And those ignorant comments about sebenzas being safe queens and good for "putting around the office"? Ummmmmm......no. Just no..........

By all means, go ahead and state your preferences. But not in a way that makes them seem like "facts", and simplifies a complex debate down to "this one is better than that one"
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I totally agree.....When it comes down to being knives, the Sebenza and SNG are great knives. As the OP, I never said one was better then the other, just comparing cost as they both sell around the same price. But I did find the "office" comment funny....
 
Ankerson said:
I thought that was amusing also when I read it. :D

CRK's are not weak office knives at all.

They are hard working tools meant to be used. :thumbup:

I used to beat my Zaan pretty good when I had it, pried nails out of pallet jack wheels with it on many occasions.
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You've had knives I could only dream of having and I know from your posts you've used your CRKs in challenging ways without issues. I know we should all trust our own experiences, but when different users share similar experiences they aren't just flukes that the knives can handle work.
 
KnifeSherpa said:
Hands down the CRK is a better tomatoe slicer. I would never take a sabenza in the woods. It belongs in a more gentle setting...plain and simple.
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I know you showed a pic of your Sebenza.....But was that really your pic, or did you find it on an image search. Because that statement indicates the latter.
 
flipe8 said:
You've had knives I could only dream of having and I know from your posts you've used your CRKs in challenging ways without issues. I know we should all trust our own experiences, but when different users share similar experiences they aren't just flukes that the knives can handle work.
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I generally don't baby anything I have or had over the years and it didn't matter much what it was. :)

That said I never do anything that I felt would do serious damage to a knife in question, have to use some common sense. :)

But I don't abuse them just because.
 
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