My new Strider SNG......Interesting.

[Ankerson]

I know you showed a pic of your Sebenza.....But was that really your pic, or did you find it on an image search. Because that statement indicates the latter.

Kind like when you sit there looking at your Sebenza 25 while reading this thread and think:

What in the hell are they talking about?

 

[KnifeSherpa]

The problem is sometimes you need to improvise and if I am on a backcountry hunt and need to baton through a pelvis and dont have my fixed blade, I really think i would rather have a strider SMF. I dont even think the Sabenza was designed for this kind of use. I really like the Sabenza, but I try and keep it to where it functions its best. If it is christmas morning, you can bet i am using my sabenza to open the kid's presents as opposed to my strider. Its a very classy knife and classy knives dont belong in the wilderness, IMO.

Are there any hard use videos out there on the Sabenza? I genuinely ask because i have not seen any.

 

[Lee D]

The problem is sometimes you need to improvise and if I am on a backcountry hunt and need to baton through a pelvis and dont have my fixed blade, I really think i would rather have a strider SMF.

why on earth would a fella go hunting knowing exactly what kinda chores are gonna need to be done if the hunt goes well, and NOT bring a fixed blade? seems like another case of the "right tool for the job" kinda thing. imo, no matter how solid a folder may be, a fixed blade will always be the better choice. just my .02

 

[Nrock]

Just curious, what is it that you hunt? I can't remember ever having a need to do that with a knife when hunting.

 

[Lee D]

Just curious, what is it that you hunt? I can't remember ever having a need to do that with a knife when hunting.

me?....first season shotgun, i hunt whitetail with an 870 12 ga slug gun, and bring my Ruger SBH during handgun season.

 

[retzius]

The problem is sometimes you need to improvise and if I am on a backcountry hunt and need to baton through a pelvis and dont have my fixed blade, I really think i would rather have a strider SMF. I dont even think the Sabenza was designed for this kind of use. I really like the Sabenza, but I try and keep it to where it functions its best. If it is christmas morning, you can bet i am using my sabenza to open the kid's presents as opposed to my strider. Its a very classy knife and classy knives dont belong in the wilderness, IMO.

Are there any hard use videos out there on the Sabenza? I genuinely ask because i have not seen any.

I've taken a lot of game and I have never had to "baton through a pelvis"...

 

[RetiredGuns]

This is getting silly, a CRK doesn't belong in the woods? Why? It's steel and titanium, hardly a fragile knife, it can handle anything a stryder can, the difference being the stryder just looks more tactical.

Not entirely the case in my experience. Last year I added on to my deck and had the dubious task of notching out some weather treated 2x10s. The SnG allowed me the grip, control & edge holding capability that I needed. That choil is truly useful. The task wouldn't have been quite as easy with my Sebenza. I realize this is just one example, but I wouldn't say "can handle anything a Strider can" is absolute.

 

[K.O.D.]

I agree that none of the "big three" mid techs or whatever are worth the price really. They are excellent knives, and there is something to be said about the time and dedication that is put into making these knives, which is more so than the mass produced knives. However, for the materials used (especially CRK and Hinderer) the cost of more meticulous production cannot be so substantially higher than what it takes to say for example make a Ti ZT like the 0801.

They are not the same as a custom knife. After selling off a great deal of my knives including a Brian Tighe I had money once again to buy a higher end knife (after paying off a lot of bills). I once again looked at a Sebenza, namely a small insingo CF from KnifeArt. Hinderer's were out of my price range, and to be honest, They didn't really interest me in that I had a ZT 0561 and I couldn't really see the price disparity equaling an increase in value if you will.

I decided that I would go the more custom route, which is why I chose the TSF Beast (which I'm carrying today). I'm very happy with my choice. I've had it six months now. I feel there is much more value per dollar spent with this knife than with the aforementioned big three.

I will at some point own an SnG again, in one of the better steels, as I cannot stand S30V. Hoping to find a CPM 154, PD #1 or Z-wear.

Now, on to my experience with the SnG, to keep this relevant. I'd heard a lot about them, and I was on a knife buying spree at the time. I bit the bullet, got a LNIB tiger striped black lego with flamed Ti in S30V, from the exchange. I was very excited to get it. Upon opening the box, my initial impression was "oh." It did not strike me as being worth the $350 I spent. However, as I broke it in, I came to love it. Its an ugly knife, but the ergonomics are just wow. I bought it in October, sold it in March I believe (2014). February 25 of last year I had to have emergency gall bladder removal surgery. I was so drugged up on dilaudid that I didn't realize I was sleeping funny on my shoulder, and ended up with six weeks of physical therapy to repair the shoulder. Long story short, I had to sell one of my high end knives to pay for phys therapy.

I think if you get a Strider in one of the better steels, the cost/value ratio improves quite a bit.

 

[Nrock]

me?....first season shotgun, i hunt whitetail with an 870 12 ga slug gun, and bring my Ruger SBH during handgun season.

Sorry no. I was asking knifesherpa.

 

[Lee D]

I've taken a lot of game and I have never had to "baton through a pelvis"...

me neither, i was simply saying id never leave a fixed blade behind in favor of a folder...they are a real pita to clean afterwards.

 

[timberweasel]

me neither, i was simply saying id never leave a fixed blade behind in favor of a folder...they are a real pita to clean afterwards.

That raises another point of interest to me: how does a Strider compare to a CRK for ease of take-down and reassembly?

 

[KnifeSherpa]

It is just an example. Why would you not want to be over-prepared? When you are 5-10 miles from a truck and even further from the closest town, a lot can happen. Yes, of course the folder is a back up.

Now, I always split the pelvic bone when field dressing a deer. It makes it go so much smoother and faster. In the back country, elk or mule deer hunting, there are lots of times when you may need to split the pelvic to debone or carry out. I just cannot see a case where a sabenza outshines a strider in this setting. I cannot even imagine trying to open or close a sabenza with gloves on.

 

[Screwdriver]

The problem is sometimes you need to improvise and if I am on a backcountry hunt and need to baton through a pelvis and dont have my fixed blade, I really think i would rather have a strider SMF. I dont even think the Sabenza was designed for this kind of use. I really like the Sabenza, but I try and keep it to where it functions its best. If it is christmas morning, you can bet i am using my sabenza to open the kid's presents as opposed to my strider. Its a very classy knife and classy knives dont belong in the wilderness, IMO.

Are there any hard use videos out there on the Sabenza? I genuinely ask because i have not seen any.

Basically from YouTube it comes down to this. people showing how awesome their Sebenzas look, and people bashing their Striders to show staged hard use. I cannot find a video of ether knife where the person is using the knife in a real use situation. All staged. So while I see that both knives are capable of doing what a folder is intended to do.

I see it this was.

CRK Owners - love to show off their knife and how to take it apart and lube it for no reason.
Strider Owners - Like to baton things and notch holes in pine to show how awesome they are.

Then you have tons of hard use stories from both sides without pictures.....Then hundreds of safe queen pics of both brands.

So basically, there is zero proof that one is better then the other when it comes to real world use.

But here is a guy cutting a tire with a Sebenza

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOoNICQW93A

 

[KnifeSherpa]

That raises another point of interest to me: how does a Strider compare to a CRK for ease of take-down and reassembly?

Well, a CRK should take down easier but in the field i dont think i would ever need to do that with a strider. A strider is designed as more of a field knife and as such i would think it would be easier to clean or rinse out in a stream. An example, is by the lock bar there is an opening where debris can escape. CRK is so tight with everything, I am not sure there is a place for it to escape.

In my mind it is your 1911 to Glock comparison. Some guys hate the plastic Glock's. I love them both. A 1911 can be more accurate but a Glock can be more reliable.

 

[Screwdriver]

Well, a CRK should take down easier but in the field i dont think i would ever need to do that with a strider. A strider is designed as more of a field knife and as such i would think it would be easier to clean or rinse out in a stream. An example, is by the lock bar there is an opening where debris can escape. CRK is so tight with everything, I am not sure there is a place for it to escape.

In my mind it is your 1911 to Glock comparison. Some guys hate the plastic Glock's. I love them both. A 1911 can be more accurate but a Glock can be more reliable.

The Sebenza is completely open on both sides of the slabs....and while the tolerance is tight, it does not have a milled G10 pocket for stuff to hide and dry in.

Basically I do not see one being better in the rinsing arena.

 

[KnifeSherpa]

[video=youtube;7beBKvyQQOQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7beBKvyQQOQ"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7beBKvyQQOQ[/video]

[video=youtube;KQFjNbJpRE4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQFjNbJpRE4&list=PLY9D3AYsrgroHCmnTqjeiSphI_-726zhE[/video]

How about an AR chopping down a tree?

[video=youtube;s2BVmX4vImY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2BVmX4vImY[/video]

 

[Screwdriver]

[video=youtube;7beBKvyQQOQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7beBKvyQQOQ"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7beBKvyQQOQ[/video]

[video=youtube;KQFjNbJpRE4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQFjNbJpRE4&list=PLY9D3AYsrgroHCmnTqjeiSphI_-726zhE[/video]

How about an AR chopping down a tree?

[video=youtube;s2BVmX4vImY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2BVmX4vImY[/video]

Like I said, all staged.

Here I found a hard use Strider vid......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtjloaMQfoY

 

[KnifeSherpa]

You see staged and I see the limits or capabilities of a knife. As for the the above video that is a reach. Everyone knows CRK has top quality control. No one disputes that.

 

[BellaBlades]

timberweasel,
Both knives are easy enough to break down if needed, but you obviously need a tool for the strider if the pivot is tightened. Some times the pivot screw will come free if there is no lock tite, but most of the time not the case.

There is no doubt that the fit on striders is very loose. You can take your sebenza and know every time to put it together it will be the same and function properly.
With a strider. The pivot and handle screws almost always need adjusting to operate smooth. Spinning the pivot will also make it change the centering and lock up as well.
I am a wizard with assembling and tweaking knives and it is just a fact. A rough figure on how many would be a between 12-18 total. Every single one was improved by tweaking.
They can both be taken down assembled all day long. But with the strider, things are just not tight.
Out of box there was something wrong and off that needed to be fixed on every one that I have owned or worked on. From a rounded tip from grinding, blade stop/thumb stud falling out, uncentered blade, blade play etc. All were fixed promptly but still.
The fact of the matter is. The strider does have a thicker blade and a choil which the CRK does not. Those are winners for many people.
And even with a small QC issue the SNG is such a great work knife that none of that matters to me.
But really different you know. Like I compared my strider to my Jeep 4x4. And my CRK reminds me of my AWD Audi except a CRK is not expensive to fix!

That raises another point of interest to me: how does a Strider compare to a CRK for ease of take-down and reassembly?

 

[Lycosa]

oooops, wrong thread.
I thought this was the Ford vs Chevy thread.
Goodgawd!!