"net to me" - wtf!!

Here is the trick to this topic, not everyone feels the same about it. Some people don't see the issue, others take great offense. If folks want to discuss the matter in depth, as long as it is civil and respectful there is no issue with me. There are a lot of people that are not posting reading this thread or will stumble upon it eventually, so we need to be somewhat accommodating and not close discussions that may prove useful to the newer folks. It would be like getting pissed off because of the thousands of "What is the best knife?" threads. Without discussions, forums die. So talk it up folks, we are all here to learn and share (hopefully).

bld522 said:
One would certainly hope so, Gizmoman. But I wouldn't put money on it.
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Especially not with added fees involved. ;)
 
bld522 said:
Insurance is not a charge I'd levy on the buyer or even offer up in the negotiations. Whether or not I insure the item isn't even the buyer's concern. Keep in mind that if I insure the item and collect on the insurance, I can use the proceeds any way I want to.
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Got it.

If you did have to collect, no doubt that the buyer would have been reimbursed with the funds they sent. You can then use your money as you see fit. :cool:
 
benchwarmer380 said:
Got it.

If you did have to collect, no doubt that the buyer would have been reimbursed with the funds they sent. You can then use your money as you see fit. :cool:
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That's pretty much how it goes. It takes forever to settle an insurance claim on a lost parcel. No fair making the buyer wait to receive reimbursement if the package is lost or stolen.
 
If you buy a $50 knife TYD and the sender uses PPG&S (they pay fees) and ships USPS Priority the seller will NET about $40 at the end.

If the same knife is sold with the whole "net to me" concept all they are saying is what they want to finally end up with including the subtracted costs of PPG&S and USPS Priority. So for this knife $40 is close to that number.

If I were selling this knife and NOT including shipping (I always pay the PP fees) I would price it $5 lower than both other examples because I am not paying shipping (which usually costs me $5.95 for USPS Priority) so in the end I would still NET $40 (give or take some pennies) each way.

It is just semantic and I doubt any "intent" or "Scheme" is built into any of these three examples.

Every transaction and customer/seller are different. Use your brain and communicate (No Low Balls!! :)) with the other party and use good judgement and manners and I will work out fine.

Every transaction I have ever had here at BFs has been easy and pleasant.

And don't use Pay Pal Gift!!!!@!@
 
Jay
I will take extra butter please..
This is getting CWAZEEEEEEEEEEEE;)
 
I've never sold a knife and have bought exactly one on the Exchange. So, I'm clearly the expert and final word you've all been waiting to hear.

Here's how I see it - I know what I am willing to pay to get a knife I want. That number is the net number, because I don't care how its broken down between price and shipping - I only care how much my bank account balance will be reduced in exchange for owning the knife. I would never use "gift" because it is dishonest and provides me no protection. I'd never buy from a seller who uses the term "gift" anywhere in his terms. I wouldn't buy a knife (or anything else) unseen, from a stranger, regardless of the number of photos, for more money than I would be comfortable (not happy) putting a match to. That tends to also mean that I'm not likely to bother trying to negotiate a lower price, as the savings aren't worth even the minor aggravation or risk of losing a knife I want (assuming the asking price is fair).
 
Agreed, BigJon. If you're selling a piece, just name a darn price and leave the math out of it!

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bld522 said:
Ignorance, indifference or naivete . . . it's all the same to me. If people don't want to believe that "to your door" sellers don't hide their selling costs in the prices, that's fine with me.
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There's nothing hidden in the costs, they just aren't separated or necessarily explicitly stated. If you can't figure out what someone is charging to ship to you based on the value of the item vs what they're charging perhaps you should stick to "net to you", personally I don't find it difficult to figure the costs and assess the price accordingly.
 
It's clear that many members have stong opinions about their listing preferences. Since forum rules do not specify one particular way, the final price to be paid, and the payment method, has to be agreed upon by both parties, through respectful communication, regardless of the way the item is listed. If good communication is lacking, or becomes stressful, just avoid the transaction.
 
stonesell said:
It's clear that many members have stong opinions about their listing preferences. Since forum rules do not specify one particular way, the final price to be paid, and the payment method, has to be agreed upon by both parties, through respectful communication, regardless of the way the item is listed. If good communication is lacking, or becomes stressful, just avoid the transaction.
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Well stated. :thumbup:
 
I just avoid and ignore these Net to me threads with gift option if they are in bad taste. Some are more confusing than others, not including shipping or percentages etc.

IMO , Just name the darn price for the knife with everything included and what method you prefer. Simple. I dont care for threads that come off as abrasive or greedy so I quickly turn around. Everything I have sold is priced to sell quick and make people happy with a simple all inclusive price.
That said I have never been worked up over it and just stay relaxed about things. :D
Matt
 
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Unless it's a knife I made, I'm going to lose money on 9/10 of my sales. I explain why in this video.

[video=youtube;BNQULw8E8H0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNQULw8E8H0[/video]

All my sales clearly state "I eat fees and shipping" and all you have to do is take a look at how many knives I've sold...
 
Charlie Mike said:
All my sales clearly state "I eat fees and shipping" and all you have to do is take a look at how many knives I've sold...
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I do the same.

If I want $100 net to me, I'll ask for $110: $4 to cover PayPay fees, $6 to cover USPS Priority. But then again, I only accept PayPal goods and I only ship USPS Priority. So while I understand the "net to me" if you allow for other payment methods, I don't understand it if you already have a set payment and shipping method in mind.

Not really a big deal either way, but it sure is easier as a buyer if the price I see is the price I pay. I personally don't like $0.99 price endings, hidden fees, etc. So I try to avoid any forms of it myself.
 
I ship USPS 1st class mail with tracking unless the customer is willing to pay for faster delivery. It's usually just as fast as Priority. I live next to a Postal Annex chain store and a small padded envelope shipped 1st class with tracking is almost $8.
 
Charlie Mike said:
I ship USPS 1st class mail with tracking unless the customer is willing to pay for faster delivery. It's usually just as fast as Priority. I live next to a Postal Annex chain store and a small padded envelope shipped 1st class with tracking is almost $8.
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Plus it depends on the size. I myself typically just buy/sell folders since my fixed lineup is pretty much set at this point. So I never have to use anything but their small box, which is something like $5.80... somewhere around there, at least. If it's something larger I'll do First Class, and I'm sure to mention it in the post just as I do for all shipping methods.

And yeah, it's often only a day or two longer anyway. I just like the convenience of Priority and am willing to spend a couple bucks extra for it.
 
calc said:
I do the same.

If I want $100 net to me, I'll ask for $110: $4 to cover PayPay fees, $6 to cover USPS Priority. But then again, I only accept PayPal goods and I only ship USPS Priority. So while I understand the "net to me" if you allow for other payment methods, I don't understand it if you already have a set payment and shipping method in mind.

Not really a big deal either way, but it sure is easier as a buyer if the price I see is the price I pay. I personally don't like $0.99 price endings, hidden fees, etc. So I try to avoid any forms of it myself.
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Generally, from what I have seen, the net to me clause just means the seller wants you to pay the PayPal fees or choose another payment option. Regardless of how anybody feels about the rule against charging extra for accepting PayPal, it's a service that benefits the seller. Sure, it's convenient for the buyer; but the primary benefits are to the seller - in that they don't have to wait days to see if payment is really coming, and that it enables the seller to accept credit card payments.
 
hhmoore said:
Generally, from what I have seen, the net to me clause just means the seller wants you to pay the PayPal fees or choose another payment option. Regardless of how anybody feels about the rule against charging extra for accepting PayPal, it's a service that benefits the seller. Sure, it's convenient for the buyer; but the primary benefits are to the seller - in that they don't have to wait days to see if payment is really coming, and that it enables the seller to accept credit card payments.
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Right, which is why I said it makes sense to me when accepting multiple forms of payment.
 
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