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Probably a post in tech help / suggestions and ask for consideration by the Administration.
This topic comes up frequently, and there has been no change in BF policy in this regard.
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Probably a post in tech help / suggestions and ask for consideration by the Administration.
This topic comes up frequently, and there has been no change in BF policy in this regard.
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To make it easy, lets just not allow the use of PP on the forums.
Everyone that makes a purchase can send a postal money order via priority mail.
Everyone that makes a purchase can send a postal money order via priority mail.
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Well said. It seems most of the complainers won't spring for a gold membership for this fine community.
Or as much as 10% from a brick and mortar store depending upon which State he lives in . . .
It's difficult for me to get upset when a seller asks me to cover his PayPal fees. As opposed to having to pay State sales tax, covering PayPal fees is a bargain in my neck of the woods. And frankly, I don't care how the seller slices and dices his deal. It all comes down to dollars and cents for me. If the deal makes sense, I'll do it. If it doesn't, I won't.
In the final analysis, those who won't do a deal I'm interested in due to their righteous indignation over the way the deal is structured are actually doing me a favor by staying out of my way.
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I think people are going too far with the name calling and the talk about people making profit.
Many folks sell at a loss....I don't think many are getting rich off PP fees.
And whats this talk about folks wanting to pad the rep ?
I been playing this game long enough to know if someones a POS they won't be doing business long on the forums.
Even if BF banned PP transactions, it would be easy enough to get around it. All a seller would have to do is state something as simple as "Cash price is $xxx. Payment via USPS Money Order only. Additional payment methods available. E-mail me for details." At that point, it becomes a private transaction outside the auspices of BF. And, of course, BF couldn't just terminate the transaction by claiming that the seller is trying to circumvent the PP ban as "additional payment methods" could include those that are perfectly acceptable such as personal check, wire transfer, will call, etc.
Neither do I. But that's not the point those who occupy the moral and ethical high ground are trying to make. With them, it's all about the principle of the thing. With me, it's simply a business transaction between two consenting adults . . . nothing more, nothing less. If I've got something you want and you're willing to meet my price, terms and conditions, we have a deal. If not, please don't go all moral on me. Just quietly take your business elsewhere with my blessing. If the shoe is on the other foot and you've got something I want, I'll endeavor to do the same.
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Would that unsavory shadow be similar to the buyer not paying usage tax on their 1040 for all the knives they bought online this year? Finding moral high ground can be a perilous endeavor.
I agree with most of the posts in this thread, until it becomes a forum rule, I am sure you will see it in the sales thread for whatever reason the seller chooses. I really don't care, it's their business. I don't consider myself better or worse than they.
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Name calling. You mean you were serious with the top remark
Nothing wrong with making a profit on a knife, and most all understand that.
I had only replied to your comment about BF not taking PP anymore, and thought the comment was sarcastic. At least I don't think you really meant it, but I may be wrong.
I agree there is no need for name calling... or sarcasm in the thread.
Lets try to keep it a civil on topic discussion.
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I just had a person that wanted to buy more switchblades from me and said they wanted to pay by paypal and would sent it as a gift too. now I set up paypal off of my credit card only so even if they sent the money how would I get it and when would I get it?? way too much trouble money order only. they said no problem so you see problem with paypal solved just dont take it.
I agree with those who think fees should be included in selling price.Just charge more. Don't sell to low ballers and don't even respond. If everyone did this there would be no confusion. Gifting money isn't about avoiding fees in my opinion. Its about getting around being liable to the buyer. If $15 dollars on lets say a $150 knife doesn't get it sold then you either paid to much yourself or your just asking to much. learn to be a better buyer. I personally include everything in my selling price and that includes insurance. I want the buyer to get the product and remove risk for me and them of a problem. I really don't see the issue here. I don't get into the moral arguments. Unless I can look in the mirror and not see a hypocrite.
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And the reason I should pay more to cover your PayPal fees if I decide not to use PayPal is . . .?
If a seller offers just one price and PayPal is one of the payment options, I assume I'm getting dinged for PayPal fees whether or not I use PayPal as the payment method. If you don't think that factors into my buying decision, you're wrong.
you can look at the price, my price any way you like. It is what it is. There is a PM and if you asked for 5 off I just may give it. Actually . I have never been firm on my prices. Actually when I finally get some money in paypal or to the bank. Its been a month or 2 I will get a membership and follow what I am preaching.
Perception is everything. If buyers who complain about "net to me" only realized that sellers who use it actually do them a favor by offering them payment options and that the posted price CONTAINS A CASH DISCOUNT (PayPal TOS notwithstanding), perhaps they'd look at the glass being half-full rather than half-empty. Of course, we could always go to a system that FORCES sellers to sell their products for more than they otherwise would and keep the additional profits for themselves when not needed to cover costs rather than pass them along to their buyers. 
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Perception is everything. If those who complain about "net to me" realized that sellers who use it are actually doing them a favor by offering them payment options and that the posted price CONTAINS A CASH DISCOUNT (PayPal TOS notwithstanding), perhaps they'd look at the glass being half-full rather than half-empty. Of course, BF could always go to a system that FORCES sellers to sell their products for more than they otherwise would and keep the additional profits for themselves rather than passing them along to their buyers.
I might agree , but if 3 dollars on a 100 is a deal breaker. So be it. PayPal works best for me. It can be instant, it either happens or it doesn't. When I sell a knife I am not selling cause I really want to. It usually comes down to need to.possibly for bills or another knife for sale. Possibility of a MO not showing and not because of loss but impulse buying regret just makes my situation worse. Although I have never said I need to sell. I hope my price moves my product. Not my pleas. Price all inclusive TYD insured. many a PM sent went unheard while the I'll take it rang the bell.
PayPal works best for me as well. But I like to give my buyers options and discounts where I can. And they seem to appreciate it. As a matter of fact, I've never heard a buyer complain about the fact that I gave him too many payment options and discount opportunities . . . not even once . . . nor has anyone ever stiffed me for a money order purchase.
On the other hand, if you post a single price and PayPal is one of your payment options, I simply assume that you've marked your price up to cover PayPal fees WHETHER I USE PAYPAL OR NOT. And you'd have a VERY difficult time convincing me otherwise.
On the other hand, if you post a single price and PayPal is one of your payment options, I simply assume that you've marked your price up to cover PayPal fees WHETHER I USE PAYPAL OR NOT. And you'd have a VERY difficult time convincing me otherwise.
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