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And I'd take you up on your suggestion but I don't speak Chinese or Italian or . . . well, you get the idea.
Certainly do and I assumed the guy as you well pointed out was speaking of American manufactures. Since prosecuting foreign entities would be pretty impossible for even our own federal Justice system. I also didn't know there were actual manufacturers of Knives on ebay. I figured they were all dealers or distributors. Then again. I don't have an ebay account so I don't spend much time there.
Have to go cut firewood. Its been a pleasure .
James
Have to go cut firewood. Its been a pleasure .
James
If it's a private sale and not an ebay listing, there's something called discreetness. Heck, people have bought hicap gun mags and even guns themselves using discreet paypal. Just make sure your buyer has common sense and doesn't put anything in the description (which they should just leave blank) of the paypal payment, especially not something like "evil babykilling BFG-9000 hicap assault weapon with shoulder thing that goes up" or "whore stabbin' jack the ripper edition tactical assault switchblade."
Yep. Some states tax you on goods you buy that are shipped in from another state. California does, though off the top of my head I don't know any others.
And since late 2011 the CA BOE started forcing FFL dealers to collect tax on guns that were shipped to them for transfer. No way out on that one. Lame, stupid, and unconstitutional.
One thing, I don't think paypal actually reverses the money (though correct me if they did and it happened to you). They usually freeze accounts that they suspect of violating their weapons policies. But if you aren't doing payments via personal/gift, but through goods and services, I think you can just send the buyer an invoice and they only need to respond to it with a 1-2 click payment - if I'm right, they won't be able to enter any text that would set off ebay's filters. Or speak to the buyer beforehand and instruct them not to type any details about the payment, but sometimes people forget anyways and put in "AR15 30 round magazine" or something bad and end up screwing the seller.
Personally I'm not so agitated over paying a paypal personal to circumvent the fees. Ebay/paypal have done enough stupid things to warrant that, not to mention they already get enough revenue through traffic on ebay.
I currently am selling standard capacity mags for Beretta 92's and USPs on gunbroker, so I'll allow discreet paypal via personal for convenience.
Personally I'm not so agitated over paying a paypal personal to circumvent the fees. Ebay/paypal have done enough stupid things to warrant that, not to mention they already get enough revenue through traffic on ebay.
I currently am selling standard capacity mags for Beretta 92's and USPs on gunbroker, so I'll allow discreet paypal via personal for convenience.
if you file a legit claim, they do not freeze the account until they have ruled in the buyers favor. Then they take it straight out of the credit card or linked bank account. The only problem is, the people that rip you off, usually do it because they need the money right away. therefore months after the claim is settled, they usually dont have any money for Paypal to take, and there is nothing you can do short of filing legal charges. Paypal wont eat that loss and will not refund you the money even if they determine you were defrauded. PP's buyer protection is great, but it is not something you can 100% rely on. More times then not, in my experiences and those of whom i have heard, there was no funds to be recovered.
On another note, people saying that BF should require no fees passed onto the buyer($xxx + 3%) since it violates the ToS of Pp, I understand that view, but BF would then also have to ban the selling of balisongs and Auto's via PP since that is also against their Terms of service. A company cannot pick and choose which terms to follow and which are okay to circumvent. I do not see that happening though, i believe it should be left up to the two people participating in the transaction.
On another note, people saying that BF should require no fees passed onto the buyer($xxx + 3%) since it violates the ToS of Pp, I understand that view, but BF would then also have to ban the selling of balisongs and Auto's via PP since that is also against their Terms of service. A company cannot pick and choose which terms to follow and which are okay to circumvent. I do not see that happening though, i believe it should be left up to the two people participating in the transaction.
I didn't know about the fee's deal. I always try to be fair with my buyer. I will always accept a MO. I have had to decline buyers because they try and pay me with Paypals gift option, which I knew was not allowed. I am still somewhat unclear on how it is any different however to just add paypal's fees into your total cost. Or post separately that you want the fee's covered. Isn't one just being dishonest in your total cost, knowing that 2.9% of that total is covering fees?
If they did it, it would be because all threads would then be done in the same way, and it would make it much more simple for the buyer. Not just because of the PP ToS. Its just more simple to have one price without fee's, and shipping added on since all know it has to be shipped, and most all pay with PP anyway. Also, if not using Gift, PP can help protect the buyer, and seller.
I do choose to follow the PP PoS as I agreed to do though, and many others do as well.
Not many at all send MO's. Ive sold alot, and I haven't gotten one in years here. Even back when I had a PP fee added on, no one sent a MO.
But I'm with you, and doubt it will happen. People will be able to list as they want, but I will keep doing one price.
Don't think so, but not really sure, and I see what you're saying.
And as for myself, I don't add on a fee anyway. Its worth it for me knowing both sides have some protection, and I don't have to drive to get a MO cashed, or deposited
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Hypothetical, I paid 150 for a knife . If you give me 150 its PP TYD I will lose 15 bucks but its ok I could really use the money. If you pay me with a money order or paypal gift I will lose 10 dollars but its ok I could really use the money oh and by the way I will knock another 5 off just to be fair since you are saving me 5 dollars by not using PP with fees. thanks for buying my knife I could really use the money. My point and has been made by others. If its a good deal are you really going to let your principles dictate something so trival as to how its worded. It all adds up to the same thing. Net to me. If I have contradicted myself in anyway please excuse me. I am still evolving. Unless its a TOS of the forum I guess I don't really care. Its kind of like driving 56 in a 55.
There are a couple forums that prohibit paypal gift/personal payments for goods, but do not prohibit sales of autos/etc via paypal. At the end of the day, the administration pretty much makes the call which paypal policies to follow to protect buyers and sellers on the marketplace, while they are not under any obligation to enforce or follow paypal's entire TOS.