Nutnfancy makes video supporting fake Chinese XM18

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frenchmade said:

He explicitly says that he is not responsible for the protection of the US knife industry. This is true. Its not his job. As a gear reviewer he is (as he says) a consumer advocate. And therefore, his position is to investigate what is available to us consumers.
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This is bogus though. He isn't responsible for the protection of the US knife industry but he is responsible for the protection of the gun industry? He's been posting hour long political videos for the last two months.

He loves to promote gun rights but apparently not Intellectual Property rights.
 
Now hundreds of "sheepdogs" are gonna go out and buy this knife. Great... free advertising for some Chinese CEO. Might be hypocritical seeing as I bought a ripoff Benchmade once... :P
 
Very poor taste. I can't believe this video. He already did a video on the "cheaper" XM, the ZT05xx. Why would he do a video supporting IP theft? A lot of people are bagging on the "made in China" thing, but like I said in the comments on his YT video ...the knife could have been made in Scotland. It doesn't matter, theft is theft. I don't care if the quality is FANTASTIC on these knockoffs. That is not the point, the point is the blatant use/theft of the Hinderer name and design no matter whom it may be, Chinese or whoever else...

I used to be a fan of TNP. He just lot one subscriber.
 
chewy667 said:
If a guy wants an XM-18 and is not active duty military, EMS, LEO, or a FireFighter and he can't afford $600, $700, $800, $900 what's he supposed to do? Remember I said XM-18. I'm not condoning anything just something to think about.
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Buy the ZT 0560/561??
 
Scurvy092 said:
This is bogus though. He isn't responsible for the protection of the US knife industry but he is responsible for the protection of the gun industry? He's been posting hour long political videos for the last two months.

He loves to promote gun rights but apparently not Intellectual Property rights.
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Sure. He's a hypocrite. But it's a separate issue. Completely irrelevant. And this thread is about the knife video. So lets try and keep it on topic
 
Scurvy092 said:
This is bogus though. He isn't responsible for the protection of the US knife industry but he is responsible for the protection of the gun industry? He's been posting hour long political videos for the last two months.

He loves to promote gun rights but apparently not Intellectual Property rights.
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Sure. He's a hypocrite. But it's a separate issue. Completely irrelevant. And this thread is about the knife video. So lets try and keep it on topic.

I never said I was a fan of his. In fact I'm not. I like to think that I'm bringing a level of objectivity to this discussion.
All I'm saying is nutnfancy is not personally responsible for the creation and sale of counterfeit products. So stop pretending that he is. Most of you are overreacting.
 
Daft Slice 1986 said:
Very poor taste. I can't believe this video. He already did a video on the "cheaper" XM, the ZT05xx. Why would he do a video supporting IP theft? A lot of people are bagging on the "made in China" thing, but like I said in the comments on his YT video ...the knife could have been made in Scotland. It doesn't matter, theft is theft. I don't care if the quality is FANTASTIC on these knockoffs. That is not the point, the point is the blatant use/theft of the Hinderer name and design no matter whom it may be, Chinese or whoever else...
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+1^ on that
 
Honestly this is ridiculous! I can't believe he would do this. As much hate as the guy gets for rambling, being egotistical, and being an armchair commando, I still watched him and thoroughly enjoyed most of his videos. This has gone crazy and he has lost a subscriber for it.
 
I found the website where these are being sold. They also sell other counterfeits. Very low quantities but I wouldn't be surprised to see sale increase after his review.
 
frenchmade said:
I like to think that I'm bringing a level of objectivity to this discussion.

All I'm saying is nutnfancy is not personally responsible for the creation and sale of counterfeit products. So stop pretending that he is. Most of you are overreacting.
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First, you are not, you are just posting another opinion, fully subjective and not a statement of fact.

Second, he is nothing else but a marketer, he absolutely influences sales to a segment of the market. He reviews gear sold at retail, the only reason his channel exists is because of the sale of products.
 
You guys seriously have your priorities out of whack if an internet knife reviewer can make you so mad that you are doing the pee pee dance. And lets not worry too much about Rick Hinderer. Anyone who has the temerity to charge that much for a dang knife and get away with it can certainly take care of himself. I think whats really going on here is that Nutnfancy is exposing the outrageous, bloated markup on some American supposed "high end" knives, and its embarrassing their fan boys. So they call Nutnfancy nasty names. Thats what a psychiatrist would call transference.
 
frenchmade said:
Sure. He's a hypocrite. But it's a separate issue. Completely irrelevant. And this thread is about the knife video. So lets try and keep it on topic.

I never said I was a fan of his. In fact I'm not. I like to think that I'm bringing a level of objectivity to this discussion.
All I'm saying is nutnfancy is not personally responsible for the creation and sale of counterfeit products. So stop pretending that he is. Most of you are overreacting.
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Watch any of his videos. He constantly brags about how he is personally responsible for the sale of hundreds of thousands of knives and other gear.
 
I've really disliked him for a while, I haven't made it all the way through one of his videos yet, they are just too long and have very little useful information. After watching some of this one if I had any amount of respect for him it's absolutely gone.
 
He prob just did it to rile everybody up. Purpose is to show disdain over knives priced the way it is. He knew there would be plenty of opposition with the release of this video. He's known to not be into knives priced beyond a certain amount and know that his videos generate plenty of sales within his following in the more general market segment.
 
cncpro11 said:
Watch any of his videos. He constantly brags about how he is personally responsible for the sale of hundreds of thousands of knives and other gear.
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Ok, yes that may be true. But that is still only a criticism of his character. I agree, the dude is a total ass hat. He enjoys being internet famous.
But are not successfully arguing that he is actually MAKING these counterfeit knives. Like I said, there is a demand for them. Completely isolated from the people who might buy one after watching this video
 
frenchmade said:
All I'm saying is nutnfancy is not personally responsible for the creation and sale of counterfeit products. So stop pretending that he is. Most of you are overreacting.
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That is a dangerous road to walk down pretending that absolves him of everything.

Sean Payton didn't create or offer payments in the Saints bounty scandal but did that stop him from getting suspended for the year?
 
powernoodle said:
You guys seriously have your priorities out of whack if an internet knife reviewer can make you so mad that you are doing the pee pee dance. And lets not worry too much about Rick Hinderer. Anyone who has the temerity to charge that much for a dang knife and get away with it can certainly take care of himself. I think whats really going on here is that Nutnfancy is exposing the outrageous, bloated markup on some American supposed "high end" knives, and its embarrassing their fan boys. So they call Nutnfancy nasty names. Thats what a psychiatrist would call transference.
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That's what I was saying.

Listen, its a capitalist free-market society you live in. And there are people trying to get ahead by whatever means necessary. Some of these people will cross moral boundaries. The capitalist system literally encourages them to do so. But I have to stress that if you guys need to pick your battles.
These chinese companies are not causing a serious problem in our society. They are never going to be responsible for the financial destruction of the western world. There are many other targets more deserving of that criticism.
 
FCM415 said:
He prob just did it to rile everybody up. Purpose is to show disdain over knives priced the way it is. He knew there would be plenty of opposition with the release of this video. He's known to not be into knives priced beyond a certain amount and know that his videos generate plenty of sales within his following in the more general market segment.
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He sure accomplished his goal. 7 pages in a couple hours. Half of it is us turning against each other, and the other half is just disowning him. and a small portion is Morrow telling us to stop using fowl language :D
 
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