O.K. Boys. . . I need help with the folder. Thumb Stud? or Blade Hole?r

Low Profile Thumb Stud or Blade Hole?

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Originally posted by Normark
Hey Guys..

You are All wrong!!!

Do Both......Seriously...

Check this out....

Put the normal hole in the blade, and have two pieces that fit into the hole and thread together with Allen keys!!!

This could easily be done...

You sell the hole adapter for an extra $20-25.00...

Slick Huh..
Whatcha think ??

ttyle
Eric...
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HOLE :D
HOLE :D
HOLE :D
HOLE :D

But Eric's idea sounds like a doable option, and might satisfy everyone.

But if not- HOLE :D :D :D :D

I'm not too partial, am I? :confused:
 
I'm also surprised at how many hole advocates there are. I prefer the stud and I've had very few problems with them [although it's true some do catch up on pockets. I'm not sure what differentiates those that do from those that don't, probably the taper] Some are very easy to maintain and tighten, like Elishewitz's, and they look pretty cool too, without taking a chunk out of the blade. The Allen key versions are fairly inconvenient, especially in the field. I'm not a big hole fan. But I seem to be in the minority.
Eric's idea for both is interesting. Do Canadian patents apply in the USA :)
The stud and hole idea in the Strider is fairly odd: pants and suspenders. If the a big benefit of the hole is to avoid having a stud to catch on things, having a stud too kind of defeats the purpose. Worse, does a stud that far back on the blade work very well? I have a custom that has one that far back and it doesn't open very well, but the blade is quite big.
As far as Canadian legal concerns, that's been covered at length in the Canadian forum over the last couple of years. There's no foolproof way to immunize any folder from be being used to harass you by a Canadian LEO who is being unreasonable or malicious: if the knife can be flicked open, even when worn or loose, it's a violation of the Canadian Criminal Code to carry, inter alia. Make sure it's tight enough. Again, I prefer to be able to adjust the tension without a key. But that's me.
 
Originally posted by Unbreakable
If any of you guys owned a Strider AR you'll know what I'm talking about. A Stud was just (at times) not enough to get that big ole blade into motion. There were times I'd slip if my hands were wet or really dirty. And once the stud got caught on the edge of my pocket and opened the damn thing as I was pulling it out. Bought cut my finger off LOL. I like the HOLE. Nothing to snag. The only part about it that's gonna fail is your thumb. And it doesn't need any refurbishing or refinishing or retightening like a stud might. I bet Jerry would be hating life if he had to start doing regular warranty maintainance on a bunch of thumb stubs. It's one more (Attached) piece that can fail or fall off or something. If your hole fails... your blade has failed. And I don't see that happening with INFI... It is INFI right?
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I've had two AR's (still have one) and I like the thumbstud. In fact, I won't be buying the SNG because it has a hole.
Please Jerry, at least give us the option of a thumbstud.
 
I'm partial to thumb studs myself. I have been since kershaw came out with the torsion assisted open. Just my 2 cents!!
 
Another vote for the "hole" as long as it's not going to be a whimpy one and it's not going to dictate a blade design with a hump.

As others have mentioned, thumb studs could snag (at a critical time) but, furthermore, they could prevent the penetration of the blade "to-the-hilt" (as someone else commented, the hole allows you to use "all of the blade").

Blade stops on the Strider SnG as well as the Camillus Cuda Maxx should not be confused as thumbstuds (although they can be used as such). These stops are positioned at the rear end of the blade--not further forward where it could limit blade penetration to less than the full length of the blade.

Edit: I tried to vote but was rejected twice. :confused:
 
Originally posted by toothed
Blade stops on the Strider SnG as well as the Camillus Cuda Maxx should not be confused as thumbstuds (although they can be used as such). These stops are positioned at the rear end of the blade--not further forward where it could limit blade penetration to less than the full length of the blade.
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Toothed,
This was exactly the point of one of my earlier posts. While I don't have a Cuda Maxx I do own a couple of DDR's MADD MAXX and Mini MAXX flippers. The studs are butted to the handle and mounted very low these are not the same "beast" as true thumb studs. With a "flipper" you need to remove the internal blade stop to allow for the "flipper handle" to rotate around the pivot axis. If the design were to create a "flipper" then this is needed along with "handles" but if not there is no need for these stops. I hate these type of "blade stop" as it is too easy to "pinch" stuff in them and you just can't get the same bite and leverage on them as you can from regular thumb stubs. I would much prefer an internal blade stop with a 9/16 hole or even traditional thumb studs over the use of external blade stops.
 
Is the poll rigged, over, or broken? :eek: :confused:

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...and no I did not vote before in the poll when I commented on my preference for the hole!!!

...but just in case, since the poll will not take my vote, even though I mentioned it above, if there is still even an unreasonable doubt remaining, I would prefer the HOLE: :D :p :D
 
Okay, since you asked - how about a dual thumbstud that can be removed to reveal a hole big enough to open with? No one else has done it, it's a darn good idea, and I'd expect Busse to be able to pull it off with typical nuclear toughness, if anyone can!

By the way - I am serious. Seems like a hole with a slight lip could mate with a double-sided thumbstud/disk that would completely fill the hole. A little extra work, but what's a little extra work when you're creating perfection?
 
The hole for sure-been carying a spyderco police for 10 yrs.
Simple,easy to use,ambidextrous-no worries about losing the
stud,which would be a real p.i.t.a.

I also tried to vote,but was denied access.
 
The poll is still going. I think the server issue at Bladeforums may be causing the trouble. . . please try again. . .

We will be counting "hanging chads" !!! ;)

Jerry
 
Normark's idea is brilliant. As an alternative to nipples/studs though, I'd suggest a concave pocket of serrated high impact plastic that stands 1/8" to 3/16" from, and flush with, the spine, and is also convex/round 1/2" from front to back along the spine to prevent snagging. This could be reversible, so it wouldn't have to protrude on both sides: one side thumb-pocket, one side flat. I'd suggest phillips screw to hold it together, as more guys have access to a multi-tool than allen/hex sets (I'd suggest these throughout the knife). I think the thumb-pocket would provide the utility of a stud, while reducing the chances of slipping or snagging. And of course, we should all get a big discount on your first run for helping you create it. All In Favor...!? The AYEs have it!
 
It would be nice if the custom shop could offer the blade with a bit of bead weld applied near the spine and shaped to that the stud or whatever shape opening protrusion appears as if it were machined as part of the blade. This could be situated above a hole, giving the best of both worlds.
 
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