Oleg Krymlin

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The OP has posted in O.K.'s latest FS thread requesting a check or one of the knives.
 
boki

Are you in the US? If so then OK can do a bank transfer into your account. Or if comes down to it OK can Paypal me and I'll send you the check myself otherwise this is getting ridiculous.
 
rycen said:
boki

Are you in the US? If so then OK can do a bank transfer into your account. Or if comes down to it OK can Paypal me and I'll send you the check myself otherwise this is getting ridiculous.
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That says it all right there! Very stand up thing to do Rycen...both parties need to respond to this immediately
 
Part of the problem is Boki wont respond to anyone trying to help. He just keeps posting where is my knife or give me my knife.
 
It seems to me boki is in Canada and neither boki nor Oleg are native english speakers.

But one thing is clear, even Oleg admits that he owes this guy money and the guy has not received it yet. That puts Oleg against the ropes and boki's "attitude," while not helping the matter, should not be a consideration.

Rycen has been very generous to offer an assist. boki, please contact Rycen with all of your contact information and we'll see if Oleg can come through with the money.
 
My offer still stands but would it not be quicker and easier for you both if boki just set up a paypal account?
 
Los Angeles said:
It seems to me boki is in Canada and neither boki nor Oleg are native english speakers.

But one thing is clear, even Oleg admits that he owes this guy money and the guy has not received it yet. That puts Oleg against the ropes and boki's "attitude," while not helping the matter, should not be a consideration.

Rycen has been very generous to offer an assist. boki, please contact Rycen with all of your contact information and we'll see if Oleg can come through with the money.
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I'm not going to defend Oleg, he's a big boy and can do it on his own without any help from me or anyone else. But I disagree with this, and seems contradictory. Paypal is available worldwide, and can be used for a one time transaction. It takes literally 2 minutes to sign up. The attitude is of concern, because every post comes off as a small one line purely uncooperative rant.
 
RevDevil said:
I'm not going to defend Oleg, he's a big boy and can do it on his own without any help from me or anyone else. But I disagree with this, and seems contradictory. Paypal is available worldwide, and can be used for a one time transaction. It takes literally 2 minutes to sign up. The attitude is of concern, because every post comes off as a small one line purely uncooperative rant.
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I worded that poorly. I should have said it is a separate consideration from Oleg's failure to deliver. boki's poor attitude does not absolve Oleg from his responsibility was my point.
 
Now that I can agree with, absolutely. I think we need to come to a solution ASAP, this is getting very tiresome and is quite a waste of everyone's time.
 
This is just a case of poor communication with both 2 non-native english speakers as Los Angeles has mentioned.I think boki just needs to be more cooperative so he can actually receive his money. Now I don't claim Oleg is completely right, as he has his faults, but he is trying--to some extent-- to return boki's money. If anyone is really out of money here, its Oleg as this thread probably tarnished his reputation a considerable amount. When people look up oleg's name to see if he's a reputable dealer, the first thing they'll see is this thread. Now not everyone is going to read this thread top to bottom, so they'll probably only read the first 1 or 2 pages both of which is filled with negative comments. @Boki, whining and complaining isn't going to get you far. It is extremely unprofessional to constantly rant and to tarnish one's reputation when they already offered to make up for it. The last thing that's going to get your money back is whining. Why would oleg return your money when you've most likely scared away many of oleg's potential buyers.
 
Bladenoobie1 said:
If anyone is really out of money here, its Oleg as this thread probably tarnished his reputation a considerable amount. When people look up oleg's name to see if he's a reputable dealer, the first thing they'll see is this thread.[/QUOTE]

Yep, it's the victims fault! :barf:, Get real. Despite boki's communication issue, Oleg has admitted that he's wrong but doesn't appear to be fixing the situation. Whatever cutomers Oleg has lost are from his own doing by not not stepping up immediatly and making this right.
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Nowhere in that statement above did I say it's the "victim's" fault. I don't want to argue in this thread, but I didn't say it's boki's fault. But nor is it Olegs. Perhaps if you read through this thread more you wouldn't come to such a quick conclusion. The communication is just one part. Boki's attitude, which is clearly evident in this thread, has recently became somewhat of a problem. What I said was just my opinion of the situation. If both parties were to step of the communication, and perhaps maybe even show some message logs, many things would be clarified. And if Oleg actually sent the check, a picture would have made a significant difference and momentarily quell this thread until boki confirmed that the check was cleared. I do admit and it was pretty obvious in my writing, that I was supporting Oleg a bit more. The reason being is that I find Boki being more uncooperative than Oleg, not that oleg is completely in the clear. I feel people in this thread are too opinionated. Either pro-Boki (Olegs a Scammer! We don't need people like this!) or pro-Oleg (Boki has an attitude! He's not cooperative!)-- Now both sides have their points, but neither is completely right. I hope the best for both the Boki and Oleg, and I hope this dispute can be resolved quickly.
 
Bladenoobie1 said:
Why would oleg return your money when you've most likely scared away many of oleg's potential buyers.
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No, you didn't come out and say it's boki's fault but it seems implied and the twist that Oleg should be felt sorry for over this is utter BS! And the line above, he should have already returned his money because he owes it to him! Again, Oleg admitted he's in the wrong but has not rectified this situation. Oleg wants to save his rep, pay boki what he admitts he owes him.

People realize that sh&* happens and mistakes are made but the customer service after the fact is what keeps customers coming back.
 
RevDevil said:
Now that I can agree with, absolutely. I think we need to come to a solution ASAP, this is getting very tiresome and is quite a waste of everyone's time.
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You're telling me !! I just read all 4 pages :(

has there been other 'non delivery' type threads about oleg?? he just had a big sale like a month ago and sold a bunch of knives you'd think this would be the opportunity of a life time to burn people...and I'm not defending anyone just saying..

This does need to be resolved, and will also add there needs to be some accountability here with proof of returned checks or bank statements sent to the poor mods who are dealing with this on the level... Oleg never denied receiving funds so he's obviously been paid (months ago!!) then stated he sent funds... bank statements is all I have to say.. after there's proof money was sent, cancel the check sent to buyer then take up rycen on his offer..

this isn't only tarnishing Oleg's reputation but all makers in general leaving a bad taste with potential buyers who may shy away from hand-made (custom) knives..

that is all..
 
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OUCH... !! I didn't realize that...

I have only took one deposit and that was for the first and "only" custom knife I made for someone, I NEVER take deposits as I don't want to be responsible if something were to happen to me and God forbid the buyer never had their money returned..

absolutely shameful..

ETA:I read both links and seems to me both were resolved by Oleg...
 
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First of all what what did I imply... Also fault is such a vague term. Despite your poor wording, I think your trying to say that people should feel sorry for Oleg in this mess. To clarify, I'm not asking anyone to feel pity for Oleg. But I don't think Boki is completely right either. I simply was trying to explain that Boki's ranting and complaining isn't going to make it any easier for him to get his money back. And just logically, just think about it, not that oleg shouldn't return the money, but why would he want to after his reputation has been damaged so much? You're taking all my statements you quoted very literally. I'm just simply analyzing the situation and trying to provide a different perspective.
To clarify even further, I'll explain what I wrote since you obviously take my writing in a different view:
"When people look up oleg's name to see if he's a reputable dealer, the first thing they'll see is this thread. Now not everyone is going to read this thread top to bottom, so they'll probably only read the first 1 or 2 pages both of which is filled with negative comments." What I was trying to say here, if and ONLY if, Oleg somehow improved his reputation, this thread would constantly antagonize him. The first 2 pages of this thread is extremely opinionated with no hard evidence from either party given. Anyone who were to look up his name would come across this thread and assume Oleg is a bad seller, AGAIN, assuming he improved his reputation. Most people don't care to see the whole story, rather the front cover with the big words and big statements. I really don't care to argue more and I find your replies very ignorant and opinionated. I'm simply going to end it at this and stop replying to you....

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To sum up everything I wrote and a few lines, I just don't like people judging based off opinion rather than hard evidence. This thread from what I've seen (please correct me if I'm wrong) is just full of opinions and statements. There is no real evidence from both parties, just a bunch of claims.
 
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wroughndt said:
Bladenoobie, if you look up Oleg you will see this thread as well as other threads where Oleg has had this exact same problem in the past. I believe the last one was only a month or two ago when he took other people's money and didn't send knives. The only one hurting his reputation is him.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...om-Oleg-Krymlin-lately?highlight=Oleg+krymlin
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...LEG-KRYMLIN-is-a-Thief?highlight=Oleg+krymlin
Here are a couple recent ones.
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wroughndt I'm fully aware of the whole Oleg ordeal. I've seen the other threads. I think people are mistaking my words. Oleg IS NOT right here, however I just found Boki's ranting and attitude to not be of help, rather making the situation worse.

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I do see where I'm wrong though. I said Oleg has offered to make up for it; however, all he has are words. No concrete evidence or picture from both parties.
 
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