Paypal friends and family and does paypal cover knives if lost or scammed

mthdwr said:
What exactly do you want me to post? My bank statements? PP totals? Monthly totals?
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I asked where they transpired as in what platform did you sell 100k in online sales without the use of goods and services? Pretty easy question.
 
mthdwr said:
No

no, because I’ve never had to lie to them for a claim. How much was your camping tool? You think they’ll just roll over and take your word for it because they’re busy?
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Knives aren’t camping tools? It isn’t a lie. It’s like calling a car a “recreational transportation machine”, or an oven an “electric/gas powered food temperature regulator”.

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shinyedges said:
That was one representative and it goes against all the successful protection that has been provided here for years. Obviously if you read this thread you'd know we're discussing alternatives should PayPal make it policy to not cover any knives.

As of right now, there isn't a single case on bladeforums of a member being scammed through goods and services and being denied.

Nevertheless, times are changing and we're discussing all options. Sending money as a damn gift isn't an option for me.
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Also to note, that story was not even first hand so we don't know the actual details of what happened.

A couple of posts in there that stand out are #19 and #33. 19 shows that what the OP claimed is not the case, at least not in every instance. Post 33 could very well explain the calls the OP made.
 
mthdwr said:
But that isn’t the point. My point is that you can pay using methods other than G/S and NOT get scammed. It sounds obvious, but many people here act like a F/F is an automatic scam. And G/S, you’re safe.. good to go.. which isn’t true.
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Yes but as a numbers game, we can count on the fingers of one hand how many g&s scams there have been here. F&F? How many of those? It’s clear which is the safer bet. I’ve never been struck by lightening, but I’m not going to stand on the roof of my house during a thunderstorm waving around a piece of rebar.
 
shinyedges said:
I asked where they transpired as in what platform did you sell 100k in online sales without the use of goods and services? Pretty easy question.
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I’m tired of bickering, but if you want to talk about reading comprehension..
I absolutely did not say I never use G/S. But aside from that, I’ve probably taken every other form on online payment. I prefer zelle because, IMO, I have the least chance of being reverse scammed as once the money is in my account, it supposedly can’t be removed (like a charge back).
 
mthdwr said:
I’m tired of bickering, but if you want to talk about reading comprehension..
I absolutely did not say I never use G/S. But aside from that, I’ve probably taken every other form on online payment. I prefer zelle because, IMO, I have the least chance of being reverse scammed as once the money is in my account, it supposedly can’t be removed (like a charge back).
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What does that have to do with this thread?? We are more concerned with people not shipping a knife once WE pay THEM.
 
mthdwr said:
Like this? Or is this fake?

PayPal no longer covers any knives. Just called them.

I recently purchased a knife from a member here on forums and he informed me that PayPal no longer gives seller protection on knives. I kind of thought he might not be exactly right about that. Today I called PayPal because I have someone wanting a couple very expensive knives I have for sale. I...
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Your info is incorrect and yes the other poster is misinformed. You can read through literally dozen of posts in this forum section where PP has covered buyers of knives. You've been here for two months and are arguing with people that have been here (and seen a plethora of deals gone bad here) for 300 months. Nothing personal, but it's not a good look, especially when you are in error. Sorry.
 
mthdwr said:
Laugh all you want. It wasn’t meant as a brag or anything of that nature.. but I bet I have a lot more transactions than most people. Aka experience. Aka not getting scammed using methods other than g/s.
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If you haven't lost out using F/F it's just luck and a matter of time. G/S does provider buyer protection and that's been proven many times over on this forum. And you are FAR more likely to be taken if you pay with F/F than G/S.

What you do is your choice, but it's not because you're smarter or more experienced that you haven't lost money using F/F ... it's just that you've not yet had it happen.
 
mthdwr said:
I’m tired of bickering, but if you want to talk about reading comprehension..
I absolutely did not say I never use G/S. But aside from that, I’ve probably taken every other form on online payment. I prefer zelle because, IMO, I have the least chance of being reverse scammed as once the money is in my account, it supposedly can’t be removed (like a charge back).
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So you refuse to answer. 100k in sales and never been scammed, now you admit you used g&s for at least some of them? And you won't name where you've made the sales?

Right. Excuse me if I don't believe you.
 
Well, not going to say you’re wrong as obviously anything can happen. I generally treat every payment method the same.. get their #, text, call, send or ask for pictures. Really they are ways to really reduce your risk. And it hasn’t failed me yet. I guess that all doesn’t count for anything and is just luck.
JJ_Colt45 said:
If you haven't lost out using F/F it's just luck and a matter of time. G/S does provider buyer protection and that's been proven many times over on this forum. And you are FAR more likely to be taken if you pay with F/F than G/S.

What you do is your choice, but it's not because you're smarter or more experienced that you haven't lost money using F/F ... it's just that you've not yet had it happen.
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mthdwr said:
Well, not going to say you’re wrong as obviously anything can happen. I generally treat every payment method the same.. get their #, text, call, send or ask for pictures. Really they are ways to really reduce your risk. And it hasn’t failed me yet. I guess that all doesn’t count for anything and is just luck.
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Where? You've been here a couple months? Where are you doing all the mysterious transactions where you "get their number" and vet them?

From your limited time here, with the few transactions you've had, I'd call that luck.
 
mthdwr said:
Great.. but yet you quoted the other guy. That’s how you show you’re not interested👍
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I'm not interested in what you have to say on the matter, and I was making a light moment out of his comment.

Move along sonny. Don't poke the bear. Or, do...

I'm happy to oblige.

(I'm more than passing familiar on how to transfer funds...and I have 20+ years of federal law enforcement to know about the scams. And 20+ years moderating here to know who is worth listening to.)
 
shinyedges said:
So you refuse to answer. 100k in sales and never been scammed, now you admit you used g&s for at least some of them? And you won't name where you've made the sales?

Right. Excuse me if I don't believe you.
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Seriously, WTF are you talking about? Ok, let me list all these payment methods
PP
Zelle
Venmo
Cash
Check
MO
CashApp

And I didnt have to “admit” I used G/S as I never said anything to the contrary.
 
mthdwr said:
Well, not going to say you’re wrong as obviously anything can happen. I generally treat every payment method the same.. get their #, text, call, send or ask for pictures. Really they are ways to really reduce your risk. And it hasn’t failed me yet. I guess that all doesn’t count for anything and is just luck.
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Call and text?? THAT’S your big secret?? People can set up burner numbers for free on smartphones these days. You aren’t doing anything that helps reduce risk, and a lot of people aren’t going to give you the time of day to talk on the phone for a knife transaction.

Short of meeting a person in-person (which is a robbery risk), your tactics do nothing.
 
mthdwr said:
Seriously, WTF are you talking about? Ok, let me list all these payment methods
PP
Zelle
Venmo
Cash
Check
MO
CashApp

And I didnt have to “admit” I used G/S as I never said anything to the contrary.
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So you've done 100k in sales and transactions through those payment methods? Seems the words "where" is eluding you.

I'll put an arrow -------->where<----------
 
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