People who blatantly and fraudulently sell knives as hand made when they are blanks..

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Thomas Linton said:
Joins to attack. Have we seen this before? :D
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Nope. I'm pretty sure it's a completely unbiased opinion from a third party.... :confused:



Just kidding!!! I see that we've had yet another "new member" join to champion the cause. My goodness, what clever tactics.
 
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Amazingly enough Chris and Sammy are one in the same.
 
sammythebull1952 said:
It seems that there are a lot of "knife makers" with a lot of free time on their hands, which is a story in and of itself...and I don't really have a dog in the fight but I do love knives. I was turned onto this thread from someone who knows him. I have watched this play out for a few days. So I thought I would make an observation, that's completely just my opinion, although some of the FACTS can be easily found on the Secretary of State's Office of Kentucky's website, Bladeforums.com and Onestopknifeshop.com:



Again, all of this is my opinion and there seems to be an overload of it already here on this board. But what do I know??
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You know how many of your knives are made of kit blades. :D

You do know that IP addresses can be traced, don't you?
 
sammythebull1952 said:
Again, all of this is my opinion and there seems to be an overload of it already here on this board. But what do I know??
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Wow, someone registered to post information about me, BFC, and my ecommerce site. It sure looks like someone is trying to muddy the waters. I'm frankly shocked, shocked and amazed that someone would, completely out of the blue, pull up the same information that Chris Williams repeatedly tried to use to threaten me when he called in the last couple weeks.

I wonder what I'll find when I scratch the surface.... Oh. How fascinating that this brand new user "sammythebull1952" posted from the same IP address as Chris Williams, to take shots at me and my business.

I mean, how fishy is this:
ChrisWilliams 74.243.233.119 [Find Latest Posts by User] [View Other IP Addresses for this User]
sammythebull1952 74.243.233.119 [Find Latest Posts by User] [View Other IP Addresses for this User]
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I'm relatively sure that his lawyer didn't tell him to post under an assumed name, or cast dispersion upon my business practices.

I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know much about lawyering, but I've quoted his post so he can't edit it out (emphasis mine):

It seems that there are a lot of "knife makers" with a lot of free time on their hands, which is a story in and of itself...and I don't really have a dog in the fight but I do love knives. I was turned onto this thread from someone who knows him. I have watched this play out for a few days. So I thought I would make an observation, that's completely just my opinion, although some of the FACTS can be easily found on the Secretary of State's Office of Kentucky's website, Bladeforums.com and Onestopknifeshop.com:

It seems we have a little case of the pot calling the kettle black syndrome here. Answer me this, if ethics, morals, honesty, and integrity associated with a person's business practices is the core issue here, and chief complaint..then how is it possible that Kevin Schlossberg (Spark), owner of Twelve Bravo Marketing, LLC, operating as One Stop Knife Shop.com AND BladeForums.com, and has been "conducting business" clearly during the time period between 9/10/2011 and today...done so in an "Inactive" AND "Bad" status since September of 2011 in his home state of Kentucky AND no such change has been made to date, which would lead one to believe he hasn't changed anything in 2 years. One would think revenues must be being recognized internally from retail sales at the web store AND through "paid memberships" at the forum, but not so sure if and/or even how they could be and properly reported for taxation purposes for a company (Twelve Bravo Marketing, LLC) that hasn't even existed the last 2 years?

May just be a reporting error for the state of Kentucky that hasn't been corrected in 2 years, who knows? I know for me, I would be absolutely sure that I had all "my" business dealings in order before I questioned anyone else and "their" business practices. Often times the squeeky wheel gets the grease. And looking at section 3A. of the Subscriber and User Agreement of Bladeforums.com...my opinion is that it is operated equally as loosely as the parent company.
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Now I hate talking about libel and defamation and all that, but wow. Trying to sully my name when I have nothing to do with people questioning the veracity of his work? Classy.

I think someone is a bit too fond of the Tu Quoque fallacy.
 
He has the balls to come here under an assumed name and sling mud but not enough to be a real man and prove that he is what he says he is. I figured as much when we talked.
 
Those who are decrying the "witch hunt" are failing to explain how using kit knives as custom-made is ethical. The most cogent answer seems to be "everybody's doin' it," followed by "mind your own beeswax! Ignore the man behind the curtain!"
 
Hahaha, oh man, technology is great, isn't it? :D

This fellow sure seems to be going through an awful lot of trouble to protect a reputation that has nothing to hide...
 
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darrin sanders said:
He has the balls to come here under an assumed name and sling mud but not enough to be a real man and prove that he is what he says he is. I figured as much when we talked.
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It's great that you took the time to call his bluff. It's pretty obvious to me what's going on, and I'm by no means the sharpest knife in the drawer.
 
WOW, I was contacted through email by Sammythebull1952 .under the pretense that he wanted to buy a knife I had just won in a give away from Jackblack in the traditional forum only hours after the winner was announced :confused:. While I thought it was extremely poor form to even ask to buy a gift, I politely declined his offer and even told him I would keep an eye out for a knife of the same model and contact him to give him a heads up if I did spot one.I also offered him information on where he might be able to get further info about obtaining this knife model that he "MUST HAVE!" In my opinion this guy WAS NOT TRUTHFUL about his intentions for contacting me as he requested my phone # .
Congrats on the knife win. A buddy of mine knows I collect them and told me about this one being drawn for. I GOTTA have this knife and would love to talk to you about what you'd take for it. I am SUPER interested and ready to buy. Shoot me a number and best time to call. Lucky joker! Best, Sam
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Something is definitely fishy about this dude.
Sammy Please tell your buddy Chris to just be honest and to stop being a jerk!
 
Hey Chris, my phone number, address, & email address are all listed below in my sigline. This pretty much proves I have nothing to hide so feel free to call me anytime. Oh wait, we already talked, never mind. BAHAHAHAHA
 
Armithius said:
Hahaha, oh man, technology is great, isn't it? :D

This fellow sure seems to be going through an awful lot of trouble to protect a reputation that has nothing to hide...
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He plainly stated that he has no dog in this fight. I wonder how many kit knives he has in it?
 
The posts made as I typed (I type slow:D) explains everything. Wow, Chris you are a true scumbag for being false with your intentions with me!!!! I guess it is just how you roll.:confused: I have to just shake my head....
 
I don't even know what I was dragged into this? Is he trying to smear me because I'm the owner of this site?

I've never said I'm perfect, nor have I offered any opinions on Chris Williams or Williams Knife Company or the quality of their work.
 
Spark said:
I don't even know what I was dragged into this? Is he trying to smear me because I'm the owner of this site?

I've never said I'm perfect, nor have I offered any opinions on Chris Williams or Williams Knife Company or the quality of their work.
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Methinks Google might be having an impact upon the Williams Knife Company reputation, but that's just speculation on my part.


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After a Google search of my own, that is NOT the case.

Color me confused.

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