Where emails started. Mon 9th
Sent this with the pics provided in the first post.
ULf "The blue coloring on outside & inside of scales and clip that just wipes off with moisture and rust spots. I just thought I would be getting something else with both brother. Sorry would like to return."
Ulf "Waiting for the OK to send back. What we gonna do here? Sure somebody else will take these off your hands but not at all what was expecting. The "acid etched" blade is jacked bro. And the marker? (do you know what it is?) just really put me off to this knife. I bought a knife from someone before from that was totally covered in pen ink! that they regarded to tell me and couldn't tell from pics since balck on black and ended up sending back also.
Would like to know your thoughts soon. Plan on sending them back to you tomarrow insured. "
Keegan "I think there's some confusion if what you're referring to the blue accents on the pictures you sent as 'pen ink', that is Cerakoting. The blue blue accents are intentional. As well as the light shade between the hex pattern on the outer portion as well as the shade in which the Ti low ride clip is anodized to match. I was surprised not to hear from you this evening as I was expecting your call so I can try to figure out what exactly you're referring to. My issue is this, I sold the knives to eight different people on that one thread. Seven out of there I'm happy with what they purchased and then you and I have this issue. The reason I asked for a call is because there seems to be some issue with communication between us. The seven other buyers all asked for everything they needed upfront as far as further pictures, further details, specs, condition questions, you name it. All of which I was happy to provide to insure we get it right the first time. The reason it's important for me to do this is I don't know if you remember but you had me put the griptilian on hold for you the moment you I posted the thread. Therefore putting me out from the start. Now because you pretty much don't like what you purchased, I in expected to eat the cost of shipping it to you insured and then the cost of shipping it to the next buyer insured. Combined those two issues with the fact that you receive these niggers on Saturday and if your prior message is correct for the attempted to remove some of the blue coat therefore essentially damaging the knife is what I need speak with you about. I don't know if you may be overlooked these facts or just do not care but as I stated several times I would at least appreciate a phone call. You can reach me at the number below anytime. And I'm sorry my friend but being 2015 it's very difficult for me to believe that you don't have access to a telephone. Thank you."
ULF "Been in another town (woods) since Monday afternoon. And yes I DO NOT own a phone as I can't afford it.
What was this accenting done with? I did not try to MOD at all. After figuring it was some type of marker I attempted to wipe some off with water and it did just wipe off like a marker would. Very unprofessional and childish job whatever it is.
I guarntee the other people you sold to didn't end up with knives in this condition and not described as such. Very disappointed in both of these knives.
When I deal with other people they usually will describe their knives for sale completely in the thread and show pics of their blades accurately. You didn't take many photo's thus could not see how crude these knives were.
So I'm just supposed to except these crumby knives cause you wanted to sell them to some poor sucker? I don't think so. If it were someone else I would be appriciative that you put them on hold but word around the internet is you are a SCAMMER. That's why I do not wish to call you from someone esles phone in fear you will do something shady with it.
I was really hoping everything would work out here but I'm not happy with this purchase at all. Disappointed and feel mislead. Don't want to pay shipping refund me $190 gift and I'll be happy after the knives arrive to you. I would not sell these knives as they are. Would feel guility.
So last time asking would like to return the knives to you or starting a thread asking others if they would accept knives not described in this condition. Will make thread on BF like the positive one you have about you on Jerzee Devils.
Don't see how this is this hard. If one of my buyers had a problem would just refund and move on.
As said never done this before. That's how disappointed I am with them both. I don't think they were as described as you barely put a description on either and barely any pics. I went by your word that they were in descent condition and feel was inaccurate.
Want refund after knives get returned back to you or starting thread today questioning you as seller. I really don't see what the big deal is unless your just trying to dump these knives off I me which looks like is probably the case the case. Said I'd take the loss of only being refunded $190 and pay for return shipping so what is the deal here?"
Keegan"You seem to be easily convinced by what you read online. The JerzeyDevil issue is one that I'm not bothered by. I stood up to a band of immature punks by following the guidelines of my sales thread based on the risks of international shipping. I and the people in this community that know me know who I am and how I conduct business so I sleep soundly at night. There were over twelve knives listed in the thread you purchased yours from, none of them had more than basic description. Everyone else who purchased it seemed to know exactly what they were getting why... because they took the time to clarify by asking questions. You had five days to do so while you had me holding the knife preventing other responsible buyers from doing their due diligence as responsible buyers and then purchasing it. Not wasting my time and money. Your only question was "is it metal". And The fact that you will not extend me the simple courtesy of a phone call tells me just about all I need to know about you.
Sometimes I do forget that transactions as small as this one are very important to individuals. Most of the knives I buy and sell are customs so my patience is tested when dealing with issues like you have brought forth. None the less, Feel free to send back the knives. I will certainly process refund on the Orange one as I believe that was an honest mistake and an impulse to throw that in with the other and by no means you put me out by holding it. If the other knifes is in the exact same condition it was when it was mailed to you, I will refund that as well. I would like to know why it took you two days to send my first notice about your issues?"
Keagan "And it's funny you say you've never done this before as far as returning items yet in your prior communication with me you clearly stated you had an issue with magic marker on a knife it and sent it back. My guess would be that isn't the only time you bought something, then displeased in one way or another, and then returned it. I guess people just operate in different ways. When I receive something that isn't exactly I hoped it would be I look back on the situation. If I feel like I was intentionally misled you in anyway or given incorrect information, which is never been the case, I agree I would be on the same page with you as far as returning something. But that's never been the case. So I man up and live with my decision. And you can't seriously be saying the aluminum one is in bad condition. Look at the blade on it, it's never been used. The maker of those scales makes scales by the dozen sold on Blade HQ for $75-110 each day. The orange one I agree with not in great condition, I stated it wasn't, in that's why it's sold for so cheap. I'm learning that when you work with 10 people there's always going to be one with An issue no matter what you do. You just so happen to be that 1, and I just have to live with that."
ULF"I have sent back garbage knives to people who sell crap. I won't accept a knife that has been dripped in black ink. It takes all want of the knife out of it for me. Ruins the value and all asthetics out of it. I would be ashamed to sell these knives as they are in bad condition. As said won't call you cause you have bad feedback on both BF and JD and probably others and not willing to give you peoples numbers in fear you would have a reason to misuse it.
Can't can't believe you are making such a big deal out of this as you are out no money and I'm the one losing $ on this and feel like a sucker for buying these unbelievably bad blades. The etching on the red grip is a joke. It's something that was a test acid etch for someone that they completely failed at doing correctly. From the pictures just figured was lightly done but it's massacred by grinding off steel and etching is awful. And whatever that blue garbage is on the milled grip is something a teenager would do to add color to the scales. They made me laugh taking from out of the box. I couldn't believe somebody would sell these on a knife forum without going into complete details about the condition and blame the buyer for not asking questions about the absurdness of their condition.
I'm wary of you now for multiple reasons and don't really want to send the knives back so let's just leave each other negative feedback and call it a day. I don't have time for this either."
Keagan" You're being absolutely ridiculous. First off I do not understand what you're saying in your first paragraph regarding numbers and misuse. Second I do have a negative feedback on BF because I commented I'll take it one a thread and the mistakenly dropped the ball by making payment to the wrong member on the incorrect item leaving the original seller questioning my commitment on the purchase. After he made the assumption that I was online when I was on a camping trip with my son, he left negative feedback. This is unfortunate because I have since made my apologies to that member and have resolved the situation.
As to your solution, us both leave each other negative feedback and then calling it a day, that does not work for me. I have offered you a refund for the orange griptilian no questions asked (I am aware the blades condition was not stellar, that's why it was sold for $45 with bran new scales on it
), and I even offered you a refund for the custom scale grip as long as you have not altered it in any way. The fact that you are now not wanting this only tells me that you did indeed alter the grip as you told me you had in our previous communications. You're trying to put it off on not trusting me to refund you is a sorry excuse. If I didn't agree to refund pending the knives being returned in boxes and pouches in the same condition as when they went out, I wouldn't have offered it."
ULF"Keegan please anwser these questions
Who is the maker and what is the material of the custom scales(aluminum, probably not titanium)?
Did you put on the blue coloring on the scales or did you recieve it that way(do you know what it is cause it's not anodized on ?
Who did you buy these from and what site?
Do you have any idea if the coloring can be removed?
What is the blade material on the Red grip blade 154cm or n690?"
). NO DON'T WANT EITHER. You lied or just didn't give a #$%^ enough to correctly decribe these blades. 
