Please help.

[craytab]

Lol yep. There still was some amount of trust lost, though. Any tips on gaining it back? I help around the house a lot, but I always do that, so just keep doing what I'm doing? I don't want to seem like I'm just brown nosing them.

Yup, just keep doing what you are doing NOW, not when you got the knife with out asking. Trust is earned. Be responsible.

 

[Schakalicious]

Yup, just keep doing what you are doing NOW, not when you got the knife with out asking. Trust is earned. Be responsible.

Sì. Gracias señor craytab. Always appreciated.

 

[Noswad0208]

Yeah, speaking from experience, if you try "kissing up" in any way, they'll know and it will probably make it worse..

 

[Schakalicious]

Yeah, speaking from experience, if you try "kissing up" in any way, they'll know and it will probably make it worse..

Yeah that's what I figured. I guess its just a matter of time. My parents are normally pretty cool, this was just one of those weird instances where my mom flipped. They should forgive me soon. Plus, she's beginning to see how useful they are. I'm going to get her a spyderco sharpmaker for her birthday in a few months. My grandfather sharpens our kitchen knives, and its actually pretty funny how over sharpened some of them are. He pretty much reprofiles the whole edge on a daily basis haha. Its getting on her nerves. A sharpmaker will fix her problems, and I can use it too

 

[Quiff]

Thanks for all of those suggestions. I actually really like that SAK, and have always thought opinels were cool. Will the wood warp at all, though? That's what's stopped me when I was looking for knives. I picked the tenacious because I knew it could take a beating. Can the same be said for the opinels?

I'm sure if you don't abuse it, the opinel will be fine. I've seen people bushcrafting with opinels, after all they were first used by farmers and herdsmen.

 

[marcinek]

... The other day though, I was cutting up a cereal box so that I could fit it into the trash can, ...

... She then asked that if the reason I had it was because I was getting picked on in school ...

...How do I get her to talk to me like a normal human being ...

I love to use my knives. But I have never thought to myself "That cereal box needs to be cut up to fit in the garbage." I just crumple it up. I am going to guess your mom does too, and while seeing you do that concluded that the knife is merely a toy you want to play with. Cutting up cereal boxes hardly convinces anyone you use knives as tools.

Now add the "bullying". And you appear to be playing with knives that you bought without telling your parents about. Those are warning signs. She made a perfectly reasonable decision based on the data available.

Stop doing nonsense like cutting up cereal boxes and convince them you are serious about carrying a knife as a tool. (Waiting until finals are over to obsess about knives will further convince them you are a serious and mature young man who could be trusted with a knife.) Then ask your mom and dad if you can get a SAK.

Finally, I have to ask. You said you let you mother read this thread, and you reached a compromise. Did you let her read the stuff that you said about her like the above? Did you let her read the thread in its entirety? Or did you select the stuff that made you look good? One of the best way to get people to talk to you like a human being is to be honest and give them the whole, true story.

After finals are over, get serious, give it a month, and see if they will let you get a SAK. Super Tinker would be an excellent choice. A red one. A red Swiss Army Knife is the friendliest knife on the planet, and its a great tool that serious people do adult things with.

If it doesn't happen....deal. Secret message from an old guy...you rarely get whatever you want...ever. Life, son.

 

[Schakalicious]

I love to use my knives. But I have never thought to myself "That cereal box needs to be cut up to fit in the garbage." I just crumple it up. I am going to guess your mom does too, and while seeing you do that concluded that the knife is merely a toy you want to play with. Cutting up cereal boxes hardly convinces anyone you use knives as tools.

Now add the "bullying". And you appear to be playing with knives that you bought without telling your parents about. Those are warning signs. She made a perfectly reasonable decision based on the data available.

Stop doing nonsense like cutting up cereal boxes and convince them you are serious about carrying a knife as a tool. (Waiting until finals are over to obsess about knives will further convince them you are a serious and mature young man who could be trusted with a knife.) Then ask your mom and dad if you can get a SAK.

Finally, I have to ask. You said you let you mother read this thread, and you reached a compromise. Did you let her read the stuff that you said about her like the above? Did you let her read the thread in its entirety? Or did you select the stuff that made you look good? One of the best way to get people to talk to you like a human being is to be honest and give them the whole, true story.

After finals are over, get serious, give it a month, and see if they will let you get a SAK. Super Tinker would be an excellent choice. A red one. A red Swiss Army Knife is the friendliest knife on the planet, and its a great tool that serious people do adult things with.

If it doesn't happen....deal. Secret message from an old guy...you rarely get whatever you want...ever. Life, son.

No... I let her read the whole thing. Including the part when you said you were "skeptical" of my story. If you paid attention to anything I said, you would've seen that I use it a lot when I'm doing yard work/building houses/stringing lacrosse sticks, so it isn't just a "toy I want to play with"; I use it almost every day.

 

[Schakalicious]

I love to use my knives. But I have never thought to myself "That cereal box needs to be cut up to fit in the garbage." I just crumple it up. I am going to guess your mom does too, and while seeing you do that concluded that the knife is merely a toy you want to play with. Cutting up cereal boxes hardly convinces anyone you use knives as tools.

Now add the "bullying". And you appear to be playing with knives that you bought without telling your parents about. Those are warning signs. She made a perfectly reasonable decision based on the data available.

Stop doing nonsense like cutting up cereal boxes and convince them you are serious about carrying a knife as a tool. (Waiting until finals are over to obsess about knives will further convince them you are a serious and mature young man who could be trusted with a knife.) Then ask your mom and dad if you can get a SAK.

Finally, I have to ask. You said you let you mother read this thread, and you reached a compromise. Did you let her read the stuff that you said about her like the above? Did you let her read the thread in its entirety? Or did you select the stuff that made you look good? One of the best way to get people to talk to you like a human being is to be honest and give them the whole, true story.

After finals are over, get serious, give it a month, and see if they will let you get a SAK. Super Tinker would be an excellent choice. A red one. A red Swiss Army Knife is the friendliest knife on the planet, and its a great tool that serious people do adult things with.

If it doesn't happen....deal. Secret message from an old guy...you rarely get whatever you want...ever. Life, son.

And yeah, finals ended today, so now I have that off my chest.

 

[Schakalicious]

I love to use my knives. But I have never thought to myself "That cereal box needs to be cut up to fit in the garbage." I just crumple it up. I am going to guess your mom does too, and while seeing you do that concluded that the knife is merely a toy you want to play with. Cutting up cereal boxes hardly convinces anyone you use knives as tools.

Now add the "bullying". And you appear to be playing with knives that you bought without telling your parents about. Those are warning signs. She made a perfectly reasonable decision based on the data available.

Stop doing nonsense like cutting up cereal boxes and convince them you are serious about carrying a knife as a tool. (Waiting until finals are over to obsess about knives will further convince them you are a serious and mature young man who could be trusted with a knife.) Then ask your mom and dad if you can get a SAK.

Finally, I have to ask. You said you let you mother read this thread, and you reached a compromise. Did you let her read the stuff that you said about her like the above? Did you let her read the thread in its entirety? Or did you select the stuff that made you look good? One of the best way to get people to talk to you like a human being is to be honest and give them the whole, true story.

After finals are over, get serious, give it a month, and see if they will let you get a SAK. Super Tinker would be an excellent choice. A red one. A red Swiss Army Knife is the friendliest knife on the planet, and its a great tool that serious people do adult things with.

If it doesn't happen....deal. Secret message from an old guy...you rarely get whatever you want...ever. Life, son.

If you want examples of how I use it, I can give you some, to prove that it's not just a toy. But maybe you'll be "skeptical" of that too, so why even bother?

 

[marcinek]

If you want examples of how I use it, I can give you some, to prove that it's not just a toy. But maybe you'll be "skeptical" of that too, so why even bother?

You are missing the point, son. I don't care if you sharpen it on curbs and throw it into trees all day.

You need to convince the people holding your knife you can act like an adult with your knife, not me. Get to it.

 

[Schakalicious]

You are missing the point, son. I don't care if you sharpen it on curbs and throw it into trees all day.

You need to convince the people holding your knife you can act like an adult with your knife, not me. Get to it.

Sorry if I seem like I'm getting defensive. I'm not sure if you mean it, but it seems like anything I say you shoot it down. Underneath all of the judging, though, you do offer good advice. My only frustration is that you are saying that I don't need the thing. It doesn't make sense to me how you could know that. You don't know me, you don't know what I do, so don't act like you do. I understand that you are older and wiser than I am, just don't try and tell me how wrong I am. I will gladly except criticism, as long as it teaches me something. When you criticize me simply for the fact that you don't like me, that is when I have a problem.

 

[Noswad0208]

Sorry if I seem like I'm getting defensive. I'm not sure if you mean it, but it seems like anything I say you shoot it down. Underneath all of the judging, though, you do offer good advice. My only frustration is that you are saying that I don't need the thing. It doesn't make sense to me how you could know that. You don't know me, you don't know what I do, so don't act like you do. I understand that you are older and wiser than I am, just don't try and tell me how wrong I am. I will gladly except criticism, as long as it teaches me something. When you criticize me simply for the fact that you don't like me, that is when I have a problem.

Don't worry, Marci just tends to be like that. Ignore him and he'll quickly lose interest. He is giving good advice under his snark though..

 

[Schakalicious]

Don't worry, Marci just tends to be like that. Ignore him and he'll quickly lose interest. He is giving good advice under his snark though..

Yeah, he is giving good advice. I'll agree. Just in another thread he said he was "highly skeptical" of my story, what is that supposed to mean? Lol what is there to be skeptical about? How would making up a story like mine benefit me in the slightest? Idk, he's just acting really hostile with me. I do respect him though, I hope he understands that. He seems very knowledgeable with these things.

 

[calc]

Here's what you do:

- Sit down with your parents and apologize for not asking their permission and for getting one without their knowledge.
- Explain that you use it as a tool for work, that you don't bring it to school.
- Show them a picture of a SAK like the one below, and ask them if you can't have a locking folder, can you at least have a multi-tool.

The worst they can say is no, but at least then you've properly smoothed the waters with an apology.

 

[Noswad0208]

Yeah, he is giving good advice. I'll agree. Just in another thread he said he was "highly skeptical" of my story, what is that supposed to mean? Lol what is there to be skeptical about? How would making up a story like mine benefit me in the slightest? Idk, he's just acting really hostile with me. I do respect him though, I hope he understands that. He seems very knowledgeable with these things.

We've had a few people who are our age (or at least posing as someone our age) trolling recently, so that could be it.

Of course, Marci is just... like that.

 

[Schakalicious]

Here's what you do:

- Sit down with your parents and apologize for not asking their permission and for getting one without their knowledge.
- Explain that you use it as a tool for work, that you don't bring it to school.
- Show them a picture of a SAK like the one below, and ask them if you can't have a locking folder, can you at least have a multi-tool.

The worst they can say is no, but at least then you've properly smoothed the waters with an apology.

Yeah, I think a SAK would be very useful. I just need something that locks. I think that it was Noswad that suggested one. I'll show them when they get home from work. Thanks for the advice man.

 

[LEGION 12]

We've had a few people who are our age (or at least posing as someone our age) trolling recently, so that could be it.

Of course, Marci is just... like that.

 

[Schakalicious]

We've had a few people who are our age (or at least posing as someone our age) trolling recently, so that could be it.

Of course, Marci is just... like that.

What were the trolls doing, because I'm pretty sure some people think I am one, and I don't know why they would.

 

[marcinek]

Yeah, he is giving good advice. I'll agree. Just in another thread he said he was "highly skeptical" of my story, what is that supposed to mean? Lol what is there to be skeptical about? How would making up a story like mine benefit me in the slightest? Idk, he's just acting really hostile with me. I do respect him though, I hope he understands that. He seems very knowledgeable with these things.

I'm skeptical because your your story is hinky. But, if you read my posts you would have seen that in each, I gave the you benefit if the doubt due to being distracted by finals. In fact, I went so far to wish you luck with them.

And I never said you didn't need the knife. I said you didn't need to cut up a cereal box with it. That's silly. That's playing. And that's what your mother saw.

You need to learn, especially if you are in the knife "world" that impressions matter, and that if you want to be treated by your parents as someone who uses knives as tools you need to demonstrate that that is what you do. (Same with anything when you are kid. Why do you think you got called out for your language? There are a ton of people your age around here who have proven they are worthy of being treated like another adult. You probably don't even notice they are here.)

When you move out, if you care what people think, you will still have to do the same thing.

 

[Schakalicious]

I'm skeptical because your your story is hinky. But, if you read my posts you would have seen that in each, I gave the you benefit if the doubt due to being distracted by finals. In fact, I went so far to wish you luck with them.

And I never said you didn't need the knife. I said you didn't need to cut up a cereal box with it. That's silly. That's playing. And that's what your mother saw.

You need to learn, especially if you are in the knife "world" that impressions matter, and that if you want to be treated by your parents as someone who uses knives as tools you need to demonstrate that that is what you do. (Same with anything when you are kid. Why do you think you got called out for your language? There are a ton of people your age around here who have proven they are worthy of being treated like another adult. You probably don't even notice they are here.)

When you move out, if you care what people think, you will still have to do the same thing.

Yeah marcinek, I'm sorry if I was rude to you. I respect you a lot, as I do everyone else in this chat, and I've learned my lesson with both my parents as well as the language I originally used in my post. I hope there are no hard feelings.