PM2Phanatic is not good to go!!!

I don't know anything about the seller, but I just thought I'd say something about the USPS tracking system. Maybe it's relevant here, or maybe it will be relevant to other transactions.

The busier the post office gets, the more their tracking system sucks. I had to return a knife recently to a vendor, the postal tracking system indicated that a shipping label had been created and that the post office was awaiting the package, despite the fact that I had given it to them. 5 days went by without any other tracking activity. So I went to the post office to inquire, and I was told that when they get a really high volume that they don't always scan every package at every step of the journey. They told me that my tracking information would likely not be updated until the package reached it's destination.

2 days later the tracking system showed that my package had been delivered to the vendor. And this was well before the Christmas crush.

So I wouldn't put too much stock in what the USPS tracking system says. Unfortunately, the way things are these days, it's basically a matter of "wait and see".
 
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killgar said:
I don't know anything about the seller, but I just thought I'd say something about the USPS tracking system. Maybe it's relevant here, or maybe it will be relevant to other transactions.

The busier the post office gets, the more their tracking system sucks. I had to return a knife recently to a vendor, the postal tracking system indicated that a shipping label had been created and that the post office was awaiting the package, despite the fact that I had given it to them. 5 days went by without any other tracking activity. So I went to the post office to inquire, and I was told that when they get a really high volume that they don't always scan every package at every step of the journey. They told me that my tracking information would likely not be updated until the package reached it's destination.

2 days later the tracking system showed that my package had been delivered to the vendor.

So I wouldn't put too much stock in what the USPS tracking system says. Unfortunately, the way things are these days, it's basically a matter of "wait and see".
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That was a possible answer some days ago, but the seller has been on the forum and is aware of the thread, PM's and problem and has failed to address it in any way. If it was a USPS tracking problem, all the seller had to do was assure the buyers that their items had been mailed and given time for delivery they would either get the items or He(or she) would take care of it.
Many of us have had USPS problems that we had to deal with as well as our buyers. If this is a USPS problem, the seller is handling it terribly.
 
You make a valid point about the time of year, volume and tracking system. Although, to me anyway, it doesn't seem highly probable 5 out of the 6 forum members that did business with him/her would all suffer the same consequences in the USPS tracking system with no updates. In addition to that I've sold multiple knives here and various items on other forums that all tracked fine and arrived on time.

The reality of the situation is there's not much we can do about the money we're out unless PayPal decides otherwise.
 
karnaknives said:
I certainly feel for all of those affected by these recent events and I'm sorry, I've been in your shoes and it sucks.

Looking at PM2Phanatic's Reddit activity I'd guess it's a female, under 30, from the immediate gratification generation.
Probably not an "intentional" thief, but young enough that (s)he still doesn't mind burning a few bridges by taking money from a few "old men",
in the same way that good credit isn't seen as a priority, and stealing from those who "can afford it" is a moral grey area at best.

Seeing that (s)he is still actively acquiring knives on Reddit, and because Reddit is irresistible to the meme-minded, and therefore more "fun" than this site is,
I'd say (s)he moved on and will consider this place just one more boring old bridge burned that (s)he has no intention of crossing again.

Just the ramblings of an old man.
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I don't think this is related, no offense. Tons of people on this forum are 30 and younger, myself being 27. You can't base entire age groups on stereotypes.
 
Paypal may take a while but I believe that they will side in favor of the buyers, especially if that account gets hit with 6 claims at once. Not to mention any claims from PM2phanatic’s reddit sales.
I think in the end you all will be made whole, but it will take some time and some frustration.
 
DrRollinstein said:
I don't think this is related, no offense. Tons of people on this forum are 30 and younger, myself being 27. You can't base entire age groups on stereotypes.
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I don’t believe that PM2Phanatic is a female but i do think they don’t see physical objects being stolen as a huge deal based on this post from reddit

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Pete1977 said:
Paypal may take a while but I believe that they will side in favor of the buyers, especially if that account gets hit with 6 claims at once. Not to mention any claims from PM2phanatic’s reddit sales.
I think in the end you all will be made whole, but it will take some time and some frustration.
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At times it can be very quick-if the seller doesn't respond to the claim. In those cases PP just awards the claim.
 
DrRollinstein said:
I don't think this is related, no offense. Tons of people on this forum are 30 and younger, myself being 27. You can't base entire age groups on stereotypes.
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You're correct and I apologize for generalizing.
The type of person I was trying to describe in general could be from any age group.
Some of the posts I saw on Reddit did lead me to believe they were made by an immature person, not necessarily a young person.
Thanks for pointing that out to me.
 
Whether the PM2Phanatic is a male or female is irrelevant. Someone in an earlier post brought it up. I have an opinion, but it doesn't matter either way.

The fact that the person is still active in the knife market on another platform, while ignoring the situation they created here, says it all.
In my opinion they have moved on and will do what they do elsewhere until they burn that bridge, or find a new hobby to be "phanatical" about.

I have nothing helpful to add so I'll just say good luck to those directly involved.
 
Well, thank you fella's for the opportunity to commiserate over a crummy situation. The good news is Blade Forums over the past 8+ years has been incredibly fun, informative and filled with truly nice people. I know this scenario is a rare one and because of that it doesn't sting so bad. I hope everyone gets their money back and keeps having a great time here.
 
So after giving PM2Phanatic ample time to respond to the posts and what i'm sure are several messages from the different forum members involved, i have come to the conclusion that
he was running a scam (albeit a head scratcher due to not requesting PP F&F). I'm basing this on him continuing to sell on another forum AFTER he said he had shipped out the previously sold knives AND the moderator sharing the times he was on this sight AFTER this thread was created and not following up by contacting any of the people here he sold knives to AND accepted PP from. Anyways, thought i'd share this info.
 
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Hopefully all buyers have initiated a PayPal dispute by now, and good on everyone for using PayPal G&S. As far as finding out who he is and/or holding him to task, jp9mm jp9mm sold him something and probably has his address. PayPal should have his personal information as well. If all the involved buyers could share information, tally up the amount of money involved in this crime, and report it to both the U.S. Postal Service and the police in his area, you could initiate an investigation. It seems we are talking about theft of around $2000-$3000 involving 5-6 victims.
 
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I did the PP dispute as well. The fact they went to the post office Monday to drop off a knife sold on knife_swap combined with lack of communication here while being active on reddit made me do it now.



NYUSNVET NYUSNVET that matches with what I got.

PayPal is rubywallace13@gmail.com

No notes - and please follow up here to make sure shipping is good to go…

Not to sure I should allow one of my Marines something sharper than bubble wrap….check your feet!

-Doc (HM2/FMF)
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He/She also posts to Navy subreddits, so that seems legitimate.

I found this obit that matches up well: http://www.mulkeymasondenton.com/obituaries/print?o_id=2226796. From that:
--Father also in the Navy, born in Denton, TX, which is where the shipping label shows as the origin and also matches pm2phanatic's reddit posts.
--Denton seems to be the legit location.
--There are two kids of the father including this person, and an address in Denton is associated with both kids along with a county tax payment--probably the father's place left in a will. It appears the son is living there.
--Robin Wallace is a female.
--Husband name William Wallace is mentioned there, though another source lists Richard C Daniels as her husband, which also lines up with the obituary in that two of the grandchildren mentioned have the last name Daniels (so Richard Daniels is the first husband, William Wallace the second).
--There are three easy to find addresses associated with William Wallace and Robin Wallace name in Denton. Looking at the knife photos, there is a wooden fence shown with tree cover and a white barn across from it that appears to match directly to 3404 Avon Dr, Denton, TX 76209.

White shed circled in red, fence in green:
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Some earlier photos/videos here show a male hand (example: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/zt-0452-cf-with-taco-bearings.1796611/#post-20589065). Like Bryan J Bryan J said, the person has done transactions here and reddit, so it's probably easy to get/verify the address if needed. I'm not sure it is(?), but a verified name would be good to have here in case this ends up as a Jeremy Swisher-like tale. Could be William Wallace rather than Robin/Ruby(?)
 
I was the winner of the PM2 pictured above, and believe it or not, it was delivered under 30 minutes ago and I have it sitting next to me on my desk right now. I can confirm that the return address on the box is the one listed above on Avon. I don't know why the seller has ghosted you all here on bladeforums, it all seems so suspicious. If they were going to steal money, why request goods and services? Why give tracking numbers? Why go to all this trouble knowing that the two communities are likely frequented by a lot of the same people? I feel guilty that I ended up with the PM2 and you all seem to be getting fleeced. If there's anything I can do to help, let me know. As I said earlier, I know I'm not a frequent user here so I haven't built up the level of trust that a lot of you have here. I was led here from a PM I got on Reddit from another user who alerted me to what was going on in case I ended up in the same boat.
 
cas31119 said:
I was the winner of the PM2 pictured above, and believe it or not, it was delivered under 30 minutes ago and I have it sitting next to me on my desk right now. I can confirm that the return address on the box is the one listed above on Avon. I don't know why the seller has ghosted you all here on bladeforums, it all seems so suspicious. If they were going to steal money, why request goods and services? Why give tracking numbers? Why go to all this trouble knowing that the two communities are likely frequented by a lot of the same people? I feel guilty that I ended up with the PM2 and you all seem to be getting fleeced. If there's anything I can do to help, let me know. As I said earlier, I know I'm not a frequent user here so I haven't built up the level of trust that a lot of you have here. I was led here from a PM I got on Reddit from another user who alerted me to what was going on in case I ended up in the same boat.
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Confirming the seller's address is a huge contribution--I'm not sure you could have been a bigger help than that. Was there a name associated with the return address?
 
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