Possible sign from the gods?

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bt93 said:
I've never seen or heard of a pit bull hesitating. They are bred for fighting in a pit, hesitation gets them killed. I could see a well mannered friendly pit coming up to you and you having a fear of dogs freaked, if a pitbull attacks though, he'll have piece of your hide ripped out before you can get your knife or even gun drawn.
Do you have a fear of dogs? If that's the case it might've been an angry chihuaha. I reccomend that you volunteer at your local animal shelter and get better acclimated with dogs and maybe even adopt one. Short of a gun, a loyal and sizeable dog is the best self defense around.
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Lapedog said:
It sounds to me like the dog was infact, not attacking, and rather just running toward you as dogs often do to strangers.

Still the owner should not allow their dog of that breed to engage in that behaviour. It is risky for everyone.
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Breed doesn't matter as an owner of any dog, you are responsible for the safety of that dog and that of others. I have been bitten by more "harmless" tiny lapdog then by any other breed. If you fear a dog it will think it has a chance to win, stand your ground, be firm and be loud. I understand in public pits are scary but if your on my property and draw a knife on my dog, you and I have a problem.
 
BladeScout said:
You quote somebody who doesnt mention firearms (in the quote).

Some dogs will be afraid of firearms. A friends dog will slink away, when the owner handles his hunting rifle and/or open a gun safe.

That kind of dog clearly connect the dots between the metallic noises, the 'stick' and the loud bang, which it doesnt particularly care for.

There is a difference between a small non-hunting dog knowing specific noises, smells, sights and the determined all-out attack by an enraged pit.

The brain of the latter most likely wont even register a gun.
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They recognize sharp blades as “large teeth” unless, as you say they are in rage mode,.
 
No1up said:
I think some of you are focusing on the dog aspect to much. Lol was it out to kill? Probably and thank God not. Would it have attacked aggressively if I showed fear, yes I have do doubts. Maybe a kick or a punch would have been affective, I don't know and glad I didn't have to find out.

My take away here was..

Having a daily knife that would be easy to reach, easy to deploy, and will kill (if necessary) an attacking animal, person, random encounter with the foot clan. While keeping in mind being under duress changes the dynamics of everything. Deployment is slower and clumsy, swinging feels like your in a bowl of jello, and so on.
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I say get whatever knife you want, but get the spray as well if you are at all worried about dogs. Punching or kicking is likely to be ineffective and I’m not really sure cracking them on the head with the butt of a knife would work either.
 
No1up said:
You haven't seen the Winkler spike then! Lol
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You have never been the victim of an all-out attack by an enraged pit determined to tear you apart.

It wont even notice your 'love taps' with the spike on the Winkler.

An all-out attack by a large pit has to be seen to be believed.

This is nothing against you - count your blessings, that you havent been attacked by a large pit intent on tearing you apart - and its nothing against Winkler knives either, as they are fine in my book.

There are just mechanisms in play here in regards to a determined pit attack, which makes said dog difficult to effectively put down with a small/medium knife - let alone with the spike end of a Winkler.

Again, count your blessings - be thankful, that you havent been on the receiving end of a serious determined pit attack.

Seems this is PracTac though ...
 
Most people have no idea that poodles originally were Hunting dogs !! My friend remembered when his poodle saw it's first rabbit ! It awakened it's real genes and had to be restrained !
 
Lapedog said:
What a terrible owner, putting their dog at risk like that.

If you know your dog is agressive then control it so that way someone else doesn't get hurt and your dog does not get hurt by that person who has every right to defend themselves.

It makes me so mad to see inexperienced owners getting breeds they cannot handle. This dog sounds like it is only a matter of time before it gets put down, by vet or in self defense.

The Winkler belt knife is an awesome blade. (I want to double edge grind one, that would be amazing)

If you want to carry a folder with some self defense capability (for when belt knife is too big) I recommend checking out a knife with the wave feature.
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Agreed. I have a Pit and German Shepherd and both are just big cuddlers. I can't stand poor owners giving good breeds horrible names. Of course I work with both of mine a lot.

But to the OP. A belt knife isn't a bad idea, if you are in a more rural area. Out in the cities and stuff not many people care for the look of a fairly large sized knife strapped to someone's belt in public. Of course if public perception isn't an issue I say go for it. Otherwise you could consider one of Cold Steels large folders to pocket carry. A XLarge Recon 1 or Voyager gives alot of reach when using the rear handle portion.
 
An enraged pit attacking you will often be on you in a flash.

You'll be bowled over before you can even draw a knife.

By then your priorities will suddenly change from contemplating drawing a knife to the basic survival instinct of: "GIT IT OFFA' ME!" as the pit is trying to tear chunks of your face, neck, body.

You'll have both hands/arm occupied with either fending off bites OR frantically trying to dislodge the pit now lock jawed on to some tender part of you.

Some pits will not only body slam you with their immense weight but they'll whip you back and forth on the ground tearing at you.

Most ordinary people will by then have gone into full atavistic mode i.e. having reverted to/been reduced to a state akin to what our forefathers felt, when some sabre toothed tiger or Haarst's eagle grabbed them.

Your whole being scream SURVIVE and you claw at that thing with both hands.

Even if the dog yanking you in a powerful yawing motion back and forth on the ground made it possible, most ordinary people would long have forgotten they even had a knife, a kubotan or spray - let alone any boobtube videoes, they watched.

Forget all the stories and the sheer absurdity of thinking, that you can let them chew on one arm, as you fish for your knife with the other.

Few with an EDC knife have a chance against a pit.

Everything is possible of course. There is the unlikely outside chance. Dont count on it though.

Personally, Id rather not be involved in an all-out pit attack.
 
Bad owner? YES. Dogs run on instinct, nothing personal.
So do you. Your a man, she is a dog. Your hands and intelligence are best defense.
Pull a gun miss and hit the child playing nearby. Pull a knife and stab, piss her off more? This will likely never occur again in your life. Spray best bet for an attack man or animal. Defend and escape. Killing even in defense has a price, you pay. Taking a life man or animal is always last resort. No refresh button.
 
BladeScout said:
An enraged pit attacking you will often be on you in a flash.

You'll be bowled over before you can even draw a knife.

By then your priorities will suddenly change from contemplating drawing a knife to the basic survival instinct of: "GIT IT OFFA' ME!" as the pit is trying to tear chunks of your face, neck, body.

You'll have both hands/arm occupied with either fending off bites OR frantically trying to dislodge the pit now lock jawed on to some tender part of you.

Some pits will not only body slam you with their immense weight but they'll whip you back and forth on the ground tearing at you.

Most ordinary people will by then have gone into full atavistic mode i.e. having reverted to/been reduced to a state akin to what our forefathers felt, when some sabre toothed tiger or Haarst's eagle grabbed them.

Your whole being scream SURVIVE and you claw at that thing with both hands.

Even if the dog yanking you in a powerful yawing motion back and forth on the ground made it possible, most ordinary people would long have forgotten they even had a knife, a kubotan or spray - let alone any boobtube videoes, they watched.

Forget all the stories and the sheer absurdity of thinking, that you can let them chew on one arm, as you fish for your knife with the other.

Few with an EDC knife have a chance against a pit.

Everything is possible of course. There is the unlikely outside chance. Dont count on it though.

Personally, Id rather not be involved in an all-out pit attack.
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Which is why you use the spray and hit first. If you're wrong, oh well.
 
Yonose said:
Poppycock! My dogs will not jump when I playing with any of my knives, and if someone points an unloaded handgun at them they hide underneath a chair. And they’ve never been stabbed or shot!
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Because your dogs see how you want them to keep their distance by how you act. They are reacting to seeing you pick up an object they have seen you pick up before. Just like a dog also knows when their owner is going to pick up a treat.

Put that same knife in a stranger's hand in a different context and the dog will not know what it is.
 
Poodles are originally German hunting dogs for catching water fowl.

The word poodle comes from the German word for puddle.
 
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