Queens #99 Scout knife...

Well, I'm learning a lot. :D

Crink – the crink is a bend at the beginning of a tang keeps multi-blade knives from rubbing against each other.
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But on this knife, it manages to rub the "blades" on both sides.
Not just rubbing a bit on the adjacent awl near the main blade base, but the tip jumps the opposite way, across the two brass sheet spacers in the middle and makes contact with the base of the can opener.
Totally normal? Individual variation? Overzealous crinkage?:confused:
 
donutsrule said:
Well, I'm learning a lot. :D



But on this knife, it manages to rub the "blades" on both sides.
Not just rubbing a bit on the adjacent awl near the main blade base, but the tip jumps the opposite way, across the two brass sheet spacers in the middle and makes contact with the base of the can opener.
Totally normal? Individual variation? Overzealous crinkage?:confused:
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Yes. It was the same way on two of my Westerns. as Railsplitter said,:
The main blade almost acts as a "liner lock" for the can opener.
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Because I have like a gagillion scout patterns, and have only ever seen this issue on multiple Western scouts, I just assumed that it was maybe a small fault in the tooling on that particular Western model. Maybe it's a bit of a tooling issue on the Queen #99 also, where if the knife crinking isn't almost perfect, you get the dreaded can opener liner lock syndrome. Like I said earlier, 4 tools is a lot to cram into one folder without something messing up. I'll know more tomorrow, when my stag bone #99 hopefully arrives.

Who knows? Maybe Queen bought the Western tooling when Camillus went bankrupt? Looking at the pictures, there are great similarities between the two scouts. Again, tough to tell much until I have a Queen in hand.
 
Interesting thread....with the somewhat warm/cold reviews, I am hoping that Queen get's it act together this year. hope some folks get good scouts...
 
Railsplitter said:
I have a Schatt & Morgan Scout with that very same flaw. The main blade almost acts as a "liner lock" for the can opener.
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Thanks to Buzzbait's reiteration of your helpful comment, I tested this, and closing the can opener did indeed bind up on the tip of the main blade. I had to pull the opener back a bit and push the main blade over, liner-lock style to close the can opener.

Okay. :( Back for exchange this goes. Thanks for everyone's help and comments. I'll post pics of the next one as soon as it comes. :)
 
Is the #99 QCC pattern (scout pattern) the same used to build the Indian River Jacks?
 
Rockon75 said:
Is the #99 QCC pattern (scout pattern) the same used to build the Indian River Jacks?
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That's a good question. I'll bet it is. The Schatt & Morgan #99 Scout was made as a cheaper alternative to the Indian River Jack. I think you're onto something there.
 
donutsrule said:
Well, I'm learning a lot. :D

But on this knife, it manages to rub the "blades" on both sides.
Not just rubbing a bit on the adjacent awl near the main blade base, but the tip jumps the opposite way, across the two brass sheet spacers in the middle and makes contact with the base of the can opener.
Totally normal? Individual variation? Overzealous crinkage?:confused:
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This can't be "normal" IMHO; that blade should not be crossing over the liner!! :eek::confused::eek:


donutsrule said:
… Okay. :( Back for exchange this goes. Thanks for everyone's help and comments. I'll post pics of the next one as soon as it comes. :)
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Sorry you have to deal with this, donuts; gotta be very disappointing. (I have to thank you, though, for introducing me to the phrase "overzealous crinkage"; I REALLY like that! :D)

- GT
 
These reports are very disappointing. I was drooling over pictures of those buffalo horn scouts. I'm hoping that we start hearing that these couple of cases are isolated. If not I may have to avoid this pattern altogether, which would be very disappointing indeed.
 
Railsplitter said:
The Schatt & Morgan #99 Scout was made as a cheaper alternative to the Indian River Jack. I think you're onto something there.
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Only in the world of traditional knives could a 4 blade knife be made as a cheaper alternative to a single blade knife. :highly_amused: :highly_amused: :highly_amused:


5K Qs said:
I have to thank you, though, for introducing me to the phrase "overzealous crinkage"; I REALLY like that! :D)
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That is definitely one for the official forums dictionary of terms.


eschwebach said:
Although Victorinox manages to do it consistently without issue. ;)
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You don't know that. My 5 Pioneers, 3 Farmers, Electrician and 4 Cadets could be a fluke. Same goes for my 5 Wenger SI's. :D
 
I'm torn on this one. I really want to like the pattern, but mine (in horn) came with lots of issues.

The covers are terribly finished and very unevenly shaped.

The shield is set crooked, with one edge flush and the other sticking out about 1/32'', and it still has the glue residue slopped around on the cover.

There are gaps around the springs & liners, and little metal burrs left on the edges.

Every blade rubs to some degree, although that's hard to avoid on a pattern like this.

What really gets me though, is the recess to access the nick on the punch is offset towards the bail by about 1/8'', just enough to make it uncomfortable to slide a nail in to lift the punch. 20150619_153157_resized.jpg

Considering sending this one back. Too bad, I really want to like it, but there's lots of issues.
 
Buzzbait said:
Only in the world of traditional knives could a 4 blade knife be made as a cheaper alternative to a single blade knife. :highly_amused: :highly_amused: :highly_amused:
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The Schatt & Morgan #99 Scout that I was referring to is actually a single blade knife. It looks just like the Indian River Jack but with 420HC steel to cut down on the cost. The frame appears to be the same frame used on the Queen #99 Scout which is a 4 blade knife.

Here's a recent thread discussing the S&M #99 Scout , among others.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...e-99-scout-anyone-have-one?highlight=99+scout
 
onespdfrk said:
I'm torn on this one. I really want to like the pattern, but mine (in horn) came with lots of issues.

The covers are terribly finished and very unevenly shaped.

The shield is set crooked, with one edge flush and the other sticking out about 1/32'', and it still has the glue residue slopped around on the cover.

There are gaps around the springs & liners, and little metal burrs left on the edges.

Every blade rubs to some degree, although that's hard to avoid on a pattern like this.

What really gets me though, is the recess to access the nick on the punch is offset towards the bail by about 1/8'', just enough to make it uncomfortable to slide a nail in to lift the punch. View attachment 554069

Considering sending this one back. Too bad, I really want to like it, but there's lots of issues.
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I hate that for you. I was torn on trying a Queen but that just sealed the deal for me.
 
Wish I could join the conversation But as of yet, my knife hasn't been seen since it supposedly left Portland. KSF says there is nothing they can do for 30 days. So, I just have to hope it tuns up in USPS's system, at some point in time. Never had anything I got from KSF take this long. Very frustrating.
 
nugun55 said:
Wish I could join the conversation But as of yet, my knife hasn't been seen since it supposedly left Portland. KSF says there is nothing they can do for 30 days. So, I just have to hope it tuns up in USPS's system, at some point in time. Never had anything I got from KSF take this long. Very frustrating.
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Not to take this thread off track but this is happening a lot. Ive read a few getting sidetacked coming out of Portland. Mine took 7 days to pop back up on radar.
 
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