Rambo V

It should be a Marchand special.
As for the SFx I heard that during the Rocky and Rambo movies Sly was one of the few actors at the time willing to put up with the make-up artists trials and attempts to get the most realism for the close-ups, and they were trying some really far out stuff to make it as realistic as they could. Many actors at the time would refuse to do the work required for all those scar applications. Especially considering they were using off the shelf industrial chemicals, and he often was getting pretty bad allergic reactions. Say what you will about him, he was committed to making the best movie he could.
 
Still thinking my design should be it. ;)

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afishhunter said:
He broke his plastic bottle of ketchup/catsup during his fall?
I did not remembér the red stuff on his arm.
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It was oozing in a semi-transparent manner throughout the whole rest of the movie, despite his stitching it up. Just like it would in real life... So they did not over-dramatize the red appearance: An amazing show of realism and restraint on the part of Hollywood (which is probably why you don't remember it). A restraint, for the sake of realism, that we will probably never see again in movies. Water or pressure on it hurts him again, much later, at least during a small fall in the mine scene, and it never stops oozing until the very end.

Apparently it did not prevent him from hiding for long periods in running water under a riverside rock, letting a number of National Guards pass him... But hey, he's tough. He literally hides (it is suggested "submerged", though it is simply impossible he could be functional after more than a few minutes) in some sort of contact with cold fast running water (imagine the rate of body heat loss just from the motion of the water alone) under the nose of dozens of National Guardsmen. That was actually the one tiny 5 second part I found the least believable of the entire movie... (And his brown leather knife sheath, unless waxed to death, would have been reduced to the consistency a soaked sponge by then...)

Gaston
 
Gaston444 said:
It was oozing in a semi-transparent manner throughout the whole rest of the movie, despite his stitching it up. Just like it would in real life... So they did not over-dramatize the red appearance: An amazing show of realism and restraint on the part of Hollywood (which is probably why you don't remember it). A restraint, for the sake of realism, that we will probably never see again in movies. Water or pressure on it hurts him again, much later, at least during a small fall in the mine scene, and it never stops oozing until the very end.

Apparently it did not prevent him from hiding for long periods in running water under a riverside rock, letting a number of National Guards pass him... But hey, he's tough. He literally hides (it is suggested "submerged", though it is simply impossible he could be functional after more than a few minutes) in some sort of contact with cold fast running water (imagine the rate of body heat loss just from the motion of the water alone) under the nose of dozens of National Guardsmen. That was actually the one tiny 5 second part I found the least believable of the entire movie... (And his brown leather knife sheath, unless waxed to death, would have been reduced to the consistency a soaked sponge by then...)

Gaston
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Please explain to us ignorant fools how exactly the color of the leather sheath makes it more or less susceptible to damage from water.
 
Planterz said:
Please explain to us ignorant fools how exactly the color of the leather sheath makes it more or less susceptible to damage from water.
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When I think of the brown leather sheaths I own, I am so angry at those incompetent fools who conned me into that waterlogged trap: Buck, Grohmann, Helle, Ka-Bar, etc. If only I’d known! :mad:
 
Speaking of Helle, did you hear yesterday that they were being bought by Canadian Tire? ... that should be interesting in terms of improving their knife section. Instead of just Gerber's and Buck's they may have some Helle love soon.
 
Gaston444 said:
He literally hides (it is suggested "submerged", though it is simply impossible he could be functional after more than a few minutes) in some sort of contact with cold fast running water (imagine the rate of body heat loss just from the motion of the water alone)...
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Again...:p

"You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In Vietnam his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well Rambo was the best." - Colonel Samuel Trautman
 
dirc said:
Speaking of Helle, did you hear yesterday that they were being bought by Canadian Tire? ... that should be interesting in terms of improving their knife section. Instead of just Gerber's and Buck's they may have some Helle love soon.
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I thought, ‘No way!’

So I looked it up. Canadian Tire have bought Helly Hansen for $985,000,000. I don’t think Helle are worth quite that much... ;)
 
I could see him using a nice Case Tested XX folding whittler with Christmas Tree celluloid handles. :)
 
Pilsner said:
I thought, ‘No way!’

So I looked it up. Canadian Tire have bought Helly Hansen for $985,000,000. I don’t think Helle are worth quite that much... ;)
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LOL, thanks, I heard it on the radio, and I somehow got thinking Helle... geez
 
Planterz said:
Please explain to us ignorant fools how exactly the color of the leather sheath makes it more or less susceptible to damage from water.
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Because to keep from smearing black on you the black surface has to be fully sealed... That, and the dye, increases the effect by filling the pores to a certain depth, creating a hard "outer surface shell" that keeps the leather's general shape, allowing it to dry back to its original shape. (Whereas brown has no pore-filling color or sealing, and is penetrated from both the inside and outside, so it instantly softens and loses its overall shape completely, taking a permanent "misshapen" set when dry: You can always tell a brown sheath that has been really wet). Also the black dye in some cases (like Randall) penetrates the leather completely, which fills the pores all the way through, and reduces water penetration even from the inside.

Not to say that any leather is the best outdoor sheath material, but varnish and dye sealed leather sure beats sponge brown... I can't remember ever seeing brown leather acting like it is fully sealed, because even with a coat of varnish there is no dye inside to fill pores and act as a further impediment when water comes from the inside: The behaviour is truly sponge-like when fully soaked, with no shape holding tendency whatsoever: Barely any better than soaked cardboard...

Brown leather can eventually be protected, but only by putting a mass of covering materials(like wax) inside and outside, leaving huge grubby smears all over your blade, making it useless for food processing. It is the same thing as protecting carbon steel from rusting: Easy to do if you have good conditions, but not so practical with use and walking long distances under rain. Everybody know leather sheaths in Vietnam fell apart, but the same people seem to think North America is always drier (because they stay indoors when the weather turns bad)...

Of course the real counterpoint to brown leather's vulnerability is that if you wet it that bad, then you yourself are so wet that you probably won't survive. That's one way of looking at it...

Gaston
 
Gaston444 said:
Because to keep from smearing black on you the black surface has to be fully sealed... That, and the dye, increases the effect by filling the pores to a certain depth, creating a hard "outer surface shell" that keeps the leather's general shape, allowing it to dry back to its original shape. (Whereas brown has no pore-filling color or sealing, and is penetrated from both the inside and outside, so it instantly softens and loses its overall shape completely, taking a permanent "misshapen" set when dry: You can always tell a brown sheath that has been really wet). Also the black dye in some cases (like Randall) penetrates the leather completely, which fills the pores all the way through, and reduces water penetration even from the inside.

Not to say that any leather is the best outdoor sheath material, but varnish and dye sealed leather sure beats sponge brown... I can't remember ever seeing brown leather acting like it is fully sealed, because even with a coat of varnish there is no dye inside to fill pores and act as a further impediment when water comes from the inside: The behaviour is truly sponge-like when fully soaked, with no shape holding tendency whatsoever: Barely any better than soaked cardboard...

Brown leather can eventually be protected, but only by putting a mass of covering materials(like wax) inside and outside, leaving huge grubby smears all over your blade, making it useless for food processing. It is the same thing as protecting carbon steel from rusting: Easy to do if you have good conditions, but not so practical with use and walking long distances under rain. Everybody know leather sheaths in Vietnam fell apart, but the same people seem to think North America is always drier (because they stay indoors when the weather turns bad)...

Of course the real counterpoint to brown leather's vulnerability is that if you wet it that bad, then you yourself are so wet that you probably won't survive. That's one way of looking at it...

Gaston
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Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proofs, Gaston. I want evidence for this absurd and unscientific claim. Until then, I will only be able to regard you as a clown.
 
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