Rambo V

Pàdruig said:
Regardless, the whole leather conversation is a bit off topic for the thread and I apologize for contributing to any derailment, but I was hard pressed not to respond to such inane commentary.
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As the OP, no worries on my end regarding derailment. I enjoyed your post and knowledge. Thanks! :thumbsup:

I do hope that it is revealed how Rambo obtains his knife in Rambo V, like it was in Rambo IV. That's half the fun. :)
 
TAH said:
Assuming this will "probably" be Rambo's last outing, I think he needs to go in style. Something with Desert Ironwood from the Mexican desert...like this, only weathered... ;)

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-Nice looking rig for Rambo.
How's this: He originally tries to bring his own knife of choice with him, but his troubles begin early with it being confiscated or stolen.
Then, as he is searching for the
missing girls, along with a possible clue from a local knife maker, this knife is gifted to him
along with good luck.
Then we can have Two blades
show up in the movie :thumbsup::thumbsup:
B.T.B.
 
Gaston444 said:
That is why leather sheaths are now forbidden for any fixed blade knife used in the US military...: They lost their shape, softened, and people injured themselves. The military bureaucracy being what it is, they didn't go into the details of how leather could be finished to make this less severe... Your beloved brown leather turned out to be a nuisance and a safety issue on exactly the use you claimed it passed, and the very institution you draw your authority argument from has banned it for fixed blade knives.

Gaston
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This quote is outright incorrect. Your comment about the US Military FORBIDDING the use of leather seemed strange to me, so I checked with our logistics folks here at the SOC. There is NO regulation, guidance or letter stating that leather sheaths, holsters or pouches are forbidden...across any service of the US military.

The reason you seldom find leather issued or used is that it is easier to care for and cheaper to purchase thermoplastic sheaths/holsters. Nothing to do with safety.

In fact, many of the guys I work with still carry belt knives in leather sheaths, usually knives they have personally purchased. The Pilot's Knife is still issued in a leather sheath (though most prefer a folder or multi-tool over a fixed blade).
 
navman said:
This quote is outright incorrect. Your comment about the US Military FORBIDDING the use of leather seemed strange to me, so I checked with our logistics folks here at the SOC. There is NO regulation, guidance or letter stating that leather sheaths, holsters or pouches are forbidden...across any service of the US military.

The reason you seldom find leather issued or used is that it is easier to care for and cheaper to purchase thermoplastic sheaths/holsters. Nothing to do with safety.

In fact, many of the guys I work with still carry belt knives in leather sheaths, usually knives they have personally purchased. The Pilot's Knife is still issued in a leather sheath (though most prefer a folder or multi-tool over a fixed blade).
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Excellent post......that will be ignored by Gasboom.
The reason??? You make factual statements navman!!
:D
 
Somewhere around here I have a Memo (?) about not jumping leather sheaths, but that is for the Army. No promises but I will see if I can find it. John
 
not2sharp said:
Or, he could use the original First Blood knife. I can almost see the sceen where he wipes off the rust, resharpens the knife, empties the survival items from the handle, and fill it to the top with his daily meds.

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amen to that
 
On his way south, John Rambo befriends a shy young teenage boy living with his beautiful widowed mom, in a small remote village in the Mexican Mountains. It is at the point in the story where John's survival depends on him acquiring a fighting knife. In the flickering candle light, the small family recognizes his desperation. The son looks at his Mom, a long meaningful Hollywood type look, and she slowly nods. The son removes an adobe brick from the wall, and reaches into the hidden cavity behind, and brings out a long object wrapped in oily cloth. He lays it on the table, and John Rambo begins to carefully pull back the cloth. As the cloth is moved back, a knife is revealed. The handle is of dense checkered black ebony wood, pinned to the hilt, and tapered slightly toward the blade. The 12 3/4" razor sharp blade is 1 3/4 inches wide, nearly 5/32 thick at the hilt, with the thickness narrowing to the point, and with a straight back and an edge slowly curving upward to the fine point. It has no guard, yet the lower back edge of the blade curves downward to make a choil which keeps the hand from slipping forward. John picks it up and immediately notices its perfect balance, speed in hand, and weighty lethality. The boy moves the candle closer, so John can see the letters JB carved on the blade near the handle. He flips the knife over and sees JB on the other side as well. He now realizes what he must be holding. He looks at the mother in amazement, his eyebrows raised in question, and she nods. "It has been hidden by, cared for and passed down in our family for 10 generations, since our ancestor on that fateful day took it from his bloody hand for safe-keeping. He was a patriot, his knife helped secure Texas freedom, and we have preserved it for such a moment as this, when freedom once again must be secured by blood.. Remember, John, when you draw this knife, it will be time to throw away the scabbard." John's eyes seem to blaze with fire as the candlelight is reflected in his eyes, and his being becomes one with the Bowie.

Weeks later, after slaying all his enemies, John was standing over the headless body of El Heffe, the maniacal leader of the gang, who had tried to escape death yet was caught by John on the edge of a remote desert canyon. His end was swift, and John was holding the bloody Bowie in his hand, arms by his side, exhausted, yet relieved that he had accomplished his mission. A lightening bolt cracked out of a clear sky, dispersed as it hit the edge of the canyon, and John felt his knife hand twinge. He raised his hand, to see smoke coming off his knife blade. He looked more closely, and saw that, above the letters JB on one side of the blade, there were now two new letters scorched into the steel...JR.
 
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deltablade said:
On his way south, John Rambo befriends a shy young teenage boy living with his beautiful widowed mom, in a small remote village in the Mexican Mountains. It is at the point in the story where John's survival depends on him acquiring a fighting knife. In the flickering candle light, the small family recognizes his desperation. The son looks at his Mom, a long meaningful Hollywood type look, and she slowly nods. The son removes an adobe brick from the wall, and reaches into the hidden cavity behind, and brings out a long object wrapped in oily cloth. He lays it on the table, and John Rambo begins to carefully pull back the cloth. As the cloth is moved back, a knife is revealed. The handle is of dense checkered black ebony wood, pinned to the hilt, and tapered slightly toward the blade. The 12 3/4" razor sharp blade is 1 3/4 inches wide, nearly 5/32 thick at the hilt, with the thickness narrowing to the point, and with a straight back and an edge slowly curving upward to the fine point. It has no guard, yet the lower back edge of the blade curves downward to make a choil which keeps the hand from slipping forward. John picks it up and immediately notices its perfect balance, speed in hand, and weighty lethality. The boy moves the candle closer, so John can see the letters JB carved on the blade near the handle. He flips the knife over and sees JB on the other side as well. He now realizes what he must be holding. He looks at the mother in amazement, his eyebrows raised in question, and she nods. "It has been hidden by, cared for and passed down in our family for 10 generations, since our ancestor on that fateful day took it from his bloody hand for safe-keeping. He was a patriot, his knife helped secure Texas freedom, and we have preserved it for such a moment as this, when freedom once again must be secured by blood.. Remember, John, when you draw this knife, it will be time to throw away the scabbard." John's eyes seem to blaze with fire as the candlelight is reflected in his eyes, and his being becomes one with the Bowie.
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Good read

And it looked like this :)

 
deltablade said:
On his way south, John Rambo befriends a shy young teenage boy living with his beautiful widowed mom, in a small remote village in the Mexican Mountains. It is at the point in the story where John's survival depends on him acquiring a fighting knife. In the flickering candle light, the small family recognizes his desperation. The son looks at his Mom, a long meaningful Hollywood type look, and she slowly nods. The son removes an adobe brick from the wall, and reaches into the hidden cavity behind, and brings out a long object wrapped in oily cloth. He lays it on the table, and John Rambo begins to carefully pull back the cloth. As the cloth is moved back, a knife is revealed. The handle is of dense checkered black ebony wood, pinned to the hilt, and tapered slightly toward the blade. The 12 3/4" razor sharp blade is 1 3/4 inches wide, nearly 5/32 thick at the hilt, with the thickness narrowing to the point, and with a straight back and an edge slowly curving upward to the fine point. It has no guard, yet the lower back edge of the blade curves downward to make a choil which keeps the hand from slipping forward. John picks it up and immediately notices its perfect balance, speed in hand, and weighty lethality. The boy moves the candle closer, so John can see the letters JB carved on the blade near the handle. He flips the knife over and sees JB on the other side as well. He now realizes what he must be holding. He looks at the mother in amazement, his eyebrows raised in question, and she nods. "It has been hidden by, cared for and passed down in our family for 10 generations, since our ancestor on that fateful day took it from his bloody hand for safe-keeping. He was a patriot, his knife helped secure Texas freedom, and we have preserved it for such a moment as this, when freedom once again must be secured by blood.. Remember, John, when you draw this knife, it will be time to throw away the scabbard." John's eyes seem to blaze with fire as the candlelight is reflected in his eyes, and his being becomes one with the Bowie.
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Well, I guess that "Bowie era Bowie" description would be as realistic/believable/plausible as 71 year old Stallone being a high speed killing machine.
 
Sad thing is, in the original book, written by David Morrell, John Rambo is killed by the sheriff, himself a Korean War Marine.
 
navman said:
Sad thing is, in the original book, written by David Morrell, John Rambo is killed by the sheriff, himself a Korean War Marine.
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Nope, he's killed by Colonel Trautman, shotgun to the back of the head as "The Kid" is about to finish of the Sheriff, who then dies also.
 
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I stand corrected! It's been a few years since I read the book. :)
 
speaking of which, any good recent authors who write good quality/realistic knife fights as part of their novels?

The only things I've read like that were many years ago, and from fantasy authors, who sadly never seem to have any practical knowledge of the subject.
 
JD Mandrell said:
Nope, he's killed by Colonel Trautman, shotgun to the back of the head as "The Kid" is about to finish of the Sheriff, who then dies also.
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Isn’t that what happens in “The Hunted?” I heard that movie, with Benicio Tel Toro and Tommy Lee Jones was also based on the same book. Don’t know for sure, since I haven’t read it.
 
Yonose said:
Isn’t that what happens in “The Hunted?” I heard that movie, with Benicio Tel Toro and Tommy Lee Jones was also based on the same book. Don’t know for sure, since I haven’t read it.
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IMDB (where one goes to settle movie related bets) claims the following;

"The Hunted (2003)

The film is considered to be a remake of First Blood (1982). Coincidently, one of the writers of this film, wrote Rambo (2008). Both this film and Rambo (2008) have the main characters making knives to kill."

"Tommy Lee Jones' character is based on the real life tracker and survival expert Tom Brown, Jr., who was also a technical advisor on the movie."
 
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